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jonesg

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Is that actualky 3000 pounds? In which case my suggestion of manpower is no good.

The great pyramids, the easter Island monoliths, Stonehenge?

I had a business across the street from a rigging company, they routinely moved 10 ton units on open 18 wheelers, you'd be amazed at what they can do without cranes.

I'd talk to those guys.
 

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Do you think you will actually use it?

If yes, call a rigger and get it done with.

If no, give it to your buddy, then you can over his place and look at it for sentimental reasons.
 

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Tilt it in, i just did this this past weekend with 2 6000lb milling machines. One small forklift to catch and drag in and another to do the tilt and catch when tilting it back. Used a rigger. 30 min job
 

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Somebody else Here On GJ had the same issue And Ended up by tilting it
To get it inside

I Don't remember the thread name or Member but you may be able to find it
Via google search of the like.
 

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I'm in Hanover and in a poa restricted community. I feel your pain. I'd hate to give it up, too. Have you checked with J Sergent Reynolds to see if they might want it? Hanover has a trades school. They might be able to use it. VCU has a machine shop with old machines in their engineering school downtown. They might find a home for it too.

It sounds like your priorities are
1. Keep it, without being fined
2. Find it a new home where it will be used and loved
3 send it to the scrapper
4 pay fines to the county/find a divorce lawyer

if it comes down to finding it a new home and the educational institutions don't bite, check out the Hanover air park industrial area. Surely someone there could use it.

Worst case...you'll recoup most or all of your purchase price if your sell it to a scrapper who melts it down.
 

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Either put it on CL and sell it for a profit or break even... Or scrap it. I wouldn't sink anymore money into it.
 

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just a thought get 3 or 4 dollies , lay it down with a tow truck, get it inside and figure out how to raise it later. a couple of come a-longs from different angles lift it SLOWLY.
 

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If I were in this situation I would take it apart and move it in piece by piece. starting from the top , use an engine hoist to lower down the heavier parts and a dolly to move them into your garage. I did look at the pics of this unit. doesn't really seem that complicated IMO.
 

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A 9' garage door would solve your problem, providing the garage is tall enough for the door, which brings up another issue, is the garage tall enough for this press to fully function. It will be hard to tilt this press enough to get it through a door that low without laying it all the way down, then you will still have to raise it once in the garage. Craigslist or a storage unit may be your best option for saving it.
 
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If you can't find a towing company to help, maybe try a company who sells safes. There are some BIG safes out there that are loaded/unloaded/moved in/out of houses by hand.

FYI - I think most places selling safes will sub out the work to someone to move/install them. Not just anyone though, someone they know and trust.
 

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Personally I would look to rent a cushion tired forklift, a 5000 lb would be best as you can get the entire thing and put it on the level where you can work on it. Rigging on inclines (obviously dependent on how steep) is a recipe for a bad day. Flat land is very best.

From there I would follow the suggestions to remove the top crossbar asm. I would be prepared in advance to know how to do that and have the proper tools available (big wrenches, cheater handles, etc).

Once you get it short enough to enter the garage, now you can move in the rest and reassemble. I personally would put it on heavy cribbing, 3-1/2" tall, so that now you can roll it around the garage with a low cost pallet jack (which has a cap of ~5000 lbs).

Its worthwhile knowing a few measurements, first the garage door header has to have enough clearance for the forklift's mast to enter. Next, you want to make sure you have a mast with "freelift" which means the forks and carriage start raising with no vertical extension of the mast channels. Iow, there is a "two stage" mast usually with a very tall center cylinder where the channels start raising immediately. The more common design is a "three stage" with a shorter cylinder and the carriage raises without going above the mast channels, at first.
 
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Another vote for renting a telehandler. We drive ours down the street but it needs a slow moving vehicle sign on the back. Orange triangle.

Unbolting the base from the top arch looks simple. Probably take more time to rent the machine and drive it to your house then to move it.

I would soak the bolts for the base with penetrating oil of your choice the day before renting. The morning of loosen slightly to ensure you won't have issues once the machine is on the clock.

I can understand your love affair, it's an awesome piece.

It's the kind of equipment that people would say to me "what are you going to do with that".

Answer, " what couldn't I do?"
 

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I agree, renting a small telehandler would be your best bet. However, if you aren't used to moving big equipment, just be really careful (or find someone with some experience). That's not super heavy, but heavy enough to get really bad in a hurry. Plan your move out ahead of time, and make sure you have everything you need (straps, chains, blocking,etc) before hand.

If you were closer, I'd buy it in a heartbeat, even though I have no real need for it, but love the old iron. Here's a link to a telehandler you could rent. Not expensive at all, and would work really well.

https://www.sunbeltrentals.com/equipment/items/1046/forklift-shooting-boom-5000lb/
 

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If you can't move it, call the folks who put on the "Field Day of the Past". If they're interested, they'll probably pick it up. If not, they might know of someone who has a use for it.

Dennis
 

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If you need an extra body, I'm in to help. I live down the road from you. As far as getting it done.... I would lean toward the tow truck method. But rest assured... it is doable.
 

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Place OSB on top of 3 or four thick walled sections of pipe and anchor it (the OSB) with a winch inside your garage to prevent it from rolling back the slope. With the help of a crane tip the machine onto the OSB and winch it into the garage, placing the pipe that come out the back from the rolling action at the front again. Inside it will be easier to position.
 
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heya, folks I'm still out here.
I have a terrible solution that I have settled on.
I am going to drag it into the back yard with a tow strap and lawn driving.
The more I look at it, the more feasible it seems.
I'll drag it across the lawn, rerig it and drag it into the backyard.
if it topples (please no) I break it down where she lays.

Hopefully this buys enough time for a better solution.
 
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HotrodHR

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If you're not able to use this, what's the point in keeping it, including dragging it to your backyard?

Just curious, what type of work do you do in your garage/shop that using this beast even makes sense?

As someone else suggested, put it back on Craig's list and flip it... you'll probably make a profit.
 
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an0nymous

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If you're not able to use this, what's the point in keeping it, including dragging it to your backyard?

Just curious, what type of work do you do in your garage/shop that using this beast even makes sense?

As someone else suggested, put it back on Craig's list and flip it... you'll probably make a profit.
I will use it. I'm a hobbyist, but there's an anvil nearby and such. I do crunch metal when time permits.

I could probably sell it to scrapper and make a profit, but that offends me.

There's probably less non scrapping enthusiasm than you imagine.
Also, I have 6 days to comply. I would happily give it to a good home.
 
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an0nymous

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If you need an extra body, I'm in to help. I live down the road from you. As far as getting it done.... I would lean toward the tow truck method. But rest assured... it is doable.

I really appreciate it.. thanks, neighbor!
 

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Seems to me like a standard tow truck with a boom and wheel lift could easily lift it with the boom, slide the wheel lift underneath to stabilize it and anchor the bottom, then lower the boom down and **** the wheel lift back at the same time to tilt it. Back it into the garage and tilt it back up. Quick, easy, and comparatively cheap.
 
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