bionic crowbar

[benjamin.eby]

hello all, I am a tool inventor and someone on facebook told me about this site, what a great resource. I have two tools i am trying to bring to market and I would love the opinion of some tool junkies like myself here is a link to a video I made for a nail-puller I helped invent. the patent is for sale but I am always up for suggestions

it starts out slow but the end is crazy thanks - ben

when I get video of the second product done I will post it also but if you want to see it I have it posted on facebook as "triple-lock socket" let me know what you think

 

[arkangel06]

Cool



+10+10+10

 

[hammlm]

Man, that is the stuff.

You developed that in 2005 and haven't been able to get it to market? The nail puller industry is tough. I'll bet now that you're on youtube there is a chinese factory already gearing up.

Very cool design.

Love the action that starts at 7:49

 

[RbrtAWhyt]

You should hook up with the Shamwow guy...I bet yall could sell a ton of them...

 

[bchee]

the gripping power is amazing - pulling lag bolts from the opposite end.

A search for "anailator" gives the auger bits which can drill through nails

 

[vssjim]

You should hook up with the Shamwow guy...I bet yall could sell a ton of them...

That is if he is not busy getting in a fight with a ******

 

[benjamin.eby]

Thanks I am glad everyone likes it, -it has been amazingly hard to get any tool manufacturer to take a look at it, which is why I started on my second project- the triple lock socket which I will post when I get video shot for it. unfortunatly it is even harder to get into the socket market, I have patents on them both and they work very well but still no tool company wants to take the risk,so I'm trying to do it myself. we'll see how it goes

 

[benjamin.eby]

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=658&id=100000616745864

not sure if it will work but this is the link to my stripped nut/bolt remover invention's page on facebook, feel free to join as a friend the name is triple-lock socket

 

[wellstig1]

I don't even wood with wood ever and i want one.

 

[nismomans13]

i watched the first couple mins and thought it was a joke, but watched the rest and i would honestly buy one now. That thing got some SERIOUS pulling power.

 

[metal1313]

i want one...but the video stopped working at 7.52 for me

 

[Broncoman]

wow, I could have used that a few times!!!

 

[mikevango]

Thanks I am glad everyone likes it, -it has been amazingly hard to get any tool manufacturer to take a look at it, which is why I started on my second project- the triple lock socket which I will post when I get video shot for it. unfortunatly it is even harder to get into the socket market, I have patents on them both and they work very well but still no tool company wants to take the risk,so I'm trying to do it myself. we'll see how it goes

i don't know how you have to go about selling that but did you try flooring tool companies? i think that'd be your market. i think since it can pull staples it would be nice to have in my box.

 

[benjamin.eby]

I have tried to sell the patents about anywhere you can think of, tool companies are just unwilling to take the risk until they know they have a sure thing, so I have to sell enough to prove the market is there, then they may pick up the patents if I am lucky, long story short, the fastest way to get it on the market is to have around 3000 people tell craftsman to start carrying it, then I can liscense it through one of the companies that produces tools for craftsman. (or any other brand) it is a long hard way to do it but it really is the most reliable way to get it on the market. so pass the video on to anyone who may like it!

 

[fatfillup]

The pulling power is amazing. I am surprised you've had no interest but then again I've never tried to sell a patent.

Some honest criticism from someone who watched the whole video and thinks you have a great idea. The beginning where the man is fumbling trying to pull the nails is a little hokey, and I was a little put off by it. The last half is great and the demo is awesome. Keep your videos like preachers should keep their sermons, start off strong, end with a big bang and don't take up too much time in between. Good luck and keep us posted with your results.

 

[alex71]

after that demo I'm sold. Just make sure you have them manufactured HERE and not in China.

 

[benjamin.eby]

The pulling power is amazing. I am surprised you've had no interest but then again I've never tried to sell a patent.

Some honest criticism from someone who watched the whole video and thinks you have a great idea. The beginning where the man is fumbling trying to pull the nails is a little hokey, and I was a little put off by it. The last half is great and the demo is awesome. Keep your videos like preachers should keep their sermons, start off strong, end with a big bang and don't take up too much time in between. Good luck and keep us posted with your results.

I have to say you are right about the video, I shot it 5 years ago just to prove what the crowbar could do, when we started trying to break them through testing we were amazed at what they would actually do, I do need to make a new video, but I am glad to hear it still gets the point across

 

[Teken]

I have no clue why any company hasn't taken you up on this. I could have used that tool at least 3 times this year.

Simply amazing to say the least . . . If you ever get around to producing a few hit me up because I could use one for sure. What is the estimated costs for this item?

 

[bchee]

are they available for purchase? Because in the demo it looks like one of them has a retail tag, like they are already being sold somewhere.

 

[Cryptic1911]

****, thats pretty cool.. I would buy one of those

 

[selohssa]

That is very impressive. If I knew about that when I was building my house, I would have bought one for sure. Even though I probabally wouldn't use it much now, if I saw it in the store I would buy it for the cool factor.

 

[gc11090]

I have tried to sell the patents about anywhere you can think of, tool companies are just unwilling to take the risk until they know they have a sure thing, so I have to sell enough to prove the market is there, then they may pick up the patents if I am lucky, long story short, the fastest way to get it on the market is to have around 3000 people tell craftsman to start carrying it, then I can liscense it through one of the companies that produces tools for craftsman. (or any other brand) it is a long hard way to do it but it really is the most reliable way to get it on the market. so pass the video on to anyone who may like it!

Well where I for one want one, who do I tell to start carrying them?

 

[benjamin.eby]

Well where I for one want one, who do I tell to start carrying them?

well I am going to re-submit the patent to newell rubbermaid because they own Irwin hand tools so I guess you could e-mail Irwin if you want to help me get it on the market - here is the "contact us"page on their website

http://www.irwin.com/irwin/consumer/jhtml/contactUs.jhtml
be sure to put in a link to the youtube video so they can see what you are talking about, here it is again

if enough people said they would buy one they might just start making them, thanks for your interest in my tool inventions!

 

[sk farmer]

irwin might kill the deal for many on here. they have whored out most everything they have to some other country. countless good brands that are now junk. if anyone could take your good idea and turn it into junk it would be them, or stanley.

 

[benjamin.eby]

how about craftsman?, Snap-on? if I can get support behind me I will try to sell it to whatever brand is agreed to be the best.

it is unfortunate that so many brands have gone overseas with production, especially stanley, once upon a time they made great stuff, now it is just junk, they make it up with numbers, mall-wart sells millions for them. All this makes it much harder for a guy like me to get my product out too, I can't (and won't- I am a vet and want to see the country come back) go to china and get my product made so my price-points are pretty high because I have to get parts made here

 

[Art From De Leon]

You probably stand a better chance with Craftsman, since they deal with homeowners and DIY's. If there are any crowbar manufacturers that are headquarted in the US, that would give you an opening into builder's supply.

Or, perhaps those who recycle old flooring, beams, and such from old factories and homes would be able to give you some leads.

I don't know about the manufacturers of quality hammers, they probably would NOT like being shown how their scientifically designed tools could be improved.

 

[Teken]

how about craftsman?, Snap-on? if I can get support behind me I will try to sell it to whatever brand is agreed to be the best.

it is unfortunate that so many brands have gone overseas with production, especially stanley, once upon a time they made great stuff, now it is just junk, they make it up with numbers, mall-wart sells millions for them. All this makes it much harder for a guy like me to get my product out too, I can't (and won't- I am a vet and want to see the country come back) go to china and get my product made so my price-points are pretty high because I have to get parts made here

Have you sent any info to Lyle tools?

 

[Chief]

Impressive tool. Something seems odd. I can't figure out why something like this would not be picked up by a manufacturer. b/t/w whats the patent number?

 

[benjamin.eby]

mpressive tool. Something seems odd. I can't figure out why something like this would not be picked up by a manufacturer. b/t/w whats the patent number?

there are 3 patents on this actually they are
Dated january 17th 2006 patent number 6,986,504
Dated april 29th 2008 patent number 7,364,133
Dated oct 21 2008 patent number 7,438,279

I have not tried Lyle tools, but I will definatly look into it today, and it is true that most 4-year engineers seem to get a little defensive when a garage mechanic comes up with something better.

thanks everyone for the great info!

 

[Teken]

If you had to make a few one off's for us, what would it costs me?

 

[flyingvette]

Hmmm. I'm tempted to write you a business plan. You have a pretty decent product. You could market in online via webpage, ebay, and amazon and probably make a decent enough amount that you would then be noticeable enough for someone to want to buy your patents. You could easily sell 3,000 units. You'll be in a much better position to sell the patents if you can demonstrate that they can sell at a profit. One very lucrative market that you seem to be overlooking is the 'as seen on tv' route. With an unique product like this you would stand an excellent chance of making beaucoup dollars on the thing. Your other main target that you might be missing out on is trying to find an entrepeneur to be your ceo / director of operations. Check with the local college - often times they will have a total bs course (from my perspective) where the class is to support / develop a business plan for a local inventor free of charge (for you anyways, students like me still get @%% ^@&*# and have to pay tuition).

You could make a low cost ******** version in China and a high cost quality integrated piece product in the US. Unfortunately the average home owner who is only going to use it a handful of times probably won't want to pay at a high price point to own it. The professional (I'd imagine) would be more than happy to. If you could get the home owner version cheaply built in the US, well, then you would have the best of both worlds.

Best of luck! You have good potential here - don't let it go to waste whatever you do.

 

[64merc]

Wow, that thing is awesome!! I would buy one of those in a heartbeat if the price was right. I could have used one of those things on multiple occasions. I will say this though, and I'm sure you've heard it before, a lot of DIY'rs would probably just cut the nail off or hammer the remainder in. It's got to have good marketing behind it, or be at a really good price point. My $.02

 

[benjamin.eby]

I do have about 100 of these that we had made as pre-production models-that is what the one in the video was, I called my father and he is looking into the liability if we sell a few, I'll let everyone know if I can sell them, if I can they will be around 25 bucks. that's what they went for when we were selling them in 05' thanks - ben

 

[Diesel-Mech]

If you do decide to sell some of the ones you have on hand I would like one.

 

[devilphrog]

Have you tried Estwing, Stilleto, Dalluge, or Vaughan?

 

[benjamin.eby]

Have you tried Estwing, Stilleto, Dalluge, or Vaughan?

I have tried all the major manufacturers for hammers and crowbars, with a few exceptions. when you submit a patent for review you have to sign what is called a letter of non-disclosure, it is basically a legal contract saying you do not expect to get paid unless they use your patent and they cannot use it without paying the patent holder.
unfortunatly some companies -estwing forexample, have a letter of non disclosure that basically says-sign this letter, send us your patent and we will be sure to steal it for you and you will now have no legal recourse because you signed away your rights with this letter. stanley, estwing, craftsman and a few others have policies like this, craftsman actually has the worst I have ever seen, but the way to get in their line is to go through their suppliers. it's not so easy to get them to even take a look at new stuff.

 

[mikevango]

i'm telling you try to sell it to flooring tool companies. crain cutter, roberts consolidated, q-ep, gundlach, orcon. i am a flooring contractor and i'm always tearing out something. i would buy this tool.

 

[mkdive]

Glad you made it over and joined the forum!

Put me down for one if you decide to sell a couple pre-production models.

 

[babzog]

I'd take one of those! I'm sure my Dad would love one too!

Have you tried Lee Valley Tools?

 

[mcdtommy23]

I could have used that several times this week! Put me down for 2 if yo decide to sell them!