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Jerm

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I have never used it but looks like a good idea, try it out and let us know.
 

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All I know about it is that their web site *****. Lots of hype about their own product though, so it must be good!

I do hope it's as good as it sounds, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
 

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looks cool. hope it works as well as they say

and remember, even if the cleaning stuff you use is biodegradable/bio safe. the oil, grease and gunk is still concidered a hazardious material

bob
 

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Do some searches over all the forums here on parts washers and you will see a lot of comments on this type of washer. If its what I think it is, it uses microbes to "eat" the oil, and requires controlled temperatures and can go stinky on you.

Despite what any web site says I would also make REAL sure its legal to use in your area.
 
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All great input. Thank you. I have talked to some of their competitors and they say that the bioremediation cleaners don't work worth a damn. I Have arranged to get a demo period with some other brands. I will keep you guys updated as I go. I will even try to do some write ups on the different machines as I go.
 

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I have used one and it works pretty good on most stuff, the only thing I am not impressed with is it doesn't clean engine oil off parts very well. It works great on new parts with cosmoline and it is awesome for cleaning tools.
 
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Now that is what I was afraid of. I use my parts washer to clean oil off of parts. If it doesn't do that very well, then it is kind of useless to me. The next things I am looking at are top loading auto parts washers. Any recommendations would be welcome.
 
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Well I have done a lot of research and that washer isn't for my needs. I talked it over with a few people, including the Safety Kleen people, so now I am going to try a few other machines. First machine to show up is the Safety Kleen AQ-1
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This Machine retails for $3950.00 without cleaner and no contract with Safety Kleen. If you sign a 2 year contract the machine is $2750.00. They offered the washer to me for a few weeks to try.
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The top sink/lid is about 2' square and 6" deep. This also acts as the lid to the washer inside. The lid didn't leek at all when the machine was running.
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This is the inside under the lid. The area to the left is just a spot to put parts and let the water spray and wash things off. The little area up and to the right is a spot to put small parts to soak. There is a petcock that you open to regulate the flow out of that soaker.
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I took off the side cover to show the internals to you. This is the temp control and pump, This is all behind a panel that is held on by several screws.
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This is the timer that they gave me with the machine. I think that this is an afterthought. Kind of cheep if you ask me. Well my thoughts of the machine over all were that it is really nice and I wanted it to work as well as it was built. The first problem that i ran into was that the Heating element just isn't big enough for this machine. It took almost 5 hours to reach the pre programed operating temp of 135 degrees. When you run the pump to use the sink or the wash tank, the element turns off. After a 15 minute wash cycle the tank temp dropped 10 to 15 degrees. This took almost an hour to recover from. I ended up moving the washer out in the sun to give it a hand at staying warm. The next thing, 135 just didn't seem warm enough to clean the parts. I reset the temp up to 140 degrees, this helped some. I think warmer would be better but I couldn't personally stand to use the sink if it were any warmer. 140 degrees was all my skin could take. So after the machine reached operating temp I washed several parts. After a few 15 minute cycles the were fairly clean, but just not clean enough. There was a oil film with dirt left behind. I had to take and put the parts in the sink and scrub the last little off. Another thing that just seemed like poor forthought, the temp control has a temp reading that tells the current temp of the wash solution. Well that display is behind that panel that I had to take off. If you look through the crack in the seem you can just make out what the temp is. Why couldn't that be placed where you could see and use it? Just seemed like it was more time consuming than using my old washer. At the end of the day I just called Safety Kleen and said pick it up, because it wasn't going to work for me. I think that this is an almost machine, it is like they just need to do some more research to get it right.
My next machine is going to be a Cuda 2412 top loading water based cleaning machine. I let you guys know how that goes.
 
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I tried that unit out at the dealership and got about the same feedback from the mechanics as you and I also sent it back. we are using a bio system and I am not impressed with them. You have to be careful not to kill the bugs and they can stink up the place if they are not serviced well. Not a home system IMO

I purchased a small water based 3 way parts washer from www.instaclean.com. It uses a very hot water based cleaner and is much like the safety-kleen unit but a bit smaller in size and price. It is NOT bio based and the solution has been in it well over a year and does not stink. It heats up to 160 deg in about 2.5 hours so you need to leave it on or know when you plan to use it. I only heat when I plan to use it as it is not used every day. It runs on 120 volt and like the Safety-Kleen unit the heater cuts off when the pump is running. You can wash parts in the lid inside or you can roll it under a car on a lift and wash down parts on the car letting the solution drain back into the top. This is great for brake work as you can clean the parts not removed. I have no connection to the maker other than they have some of my bucks. This unit could have been made better and is a little crude here and there. I plan to add a small pump so the heater can stay on when I am using the hand held brush and to reduce noise. The pump is powerful and makes a good bit of noise when running. The noise is not bad but you don't need a 3/4 HP pump running to push a little stream of solution to a parts brush. Parts come out way hot and dry fast. The included chemicals have rust inhibitors that work as the parts don't flash rust and in fact seem to rust less than solvent cleaned ones when stored long term.
This was a Porsche 1/2 shaft I took apart in the top and then washed in the washer. I ran it for about 10 min, checked the parts moving them some and then letting it run the remaining 5 min. No grease anywhere. I find it does OK with the hard to remove stuff and gets oil as well. It is the best for old hard dried cosmoline. It gets it gone or at least turns it to soft easily brushed off goo. Motor parts get a spray down with clean new hydrocarbon based solvents and clean wipes but stuff like hubs just get a wipe and inspect.
 

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I like it, what are the dimensions of that machine as far as a foot print goes? If you don't mind me asking, how much did you pay for it? Do you like it? Looks like it really does the job.
 

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All I know about it is that their web site *****. Lots of hype about their own product though, so it must be good!

I do hope it's as good as it sounds, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

Seems like a neat idea.... but it has an air of "too good to be true" to it.....
 

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I'll second Toolfreaks recommendation.
We have the middle sized front load unit and absolutely love it.
Works great and maint/upkeep is easy. Also heats up reasonably fast.
 

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Shop I go to rinses everything with a water hose after either type washer and blows off the water with an airgun. Sensitive parts get a shot of WD40 after drying and that gets blown through internal parts with the airgun.
 

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Cuda is a better cabinet type washer no question. Instaclean a more versatile unit. The instaclean is a good idea that needs refining IMO. Please let us know your impressions of them.

One thing to check on is disposal of the water based solution. I checked and my county haz mat disposal site will take it from non commercial homeowners for free. I am still on my first fill. I figure that I can use the hose to pump it right into 5 gal jugs and drop it off when it is used up telling them I saved it after detailing an old car. A recharge is about $5.00 for the concentrate and water from the hose. The unit came with two fills.
 
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