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speedpro

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That seems extraordinary expensive for stamped metal... Entire sets of ratcheting or even flex can be bought for the price of just a few of these wrenches.
 

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That seems extraordinary expensive for stamped metal... Entire sets of ratcheting or even flex can be bought for the price of just a few of these wrenches.

If you're talking about Proto or other quality manufacturer, I'd like to have you post where they can be bought for those low prices.

If you're talking about comparing HF, dewalt, autocraft, toolworks, Craftsman, gearwrench, the house brand at autozone or o'reiley's or other import wrenches, that's old news. It's been beat to death around here. Most people are quite aware that there are cheap tool alternatives to the more expensive tool lines. The guys that are interested in these wrenches are not generally interested in substituting cheap ratcheting or flexing wrenches instead.

If you'd like a link to cheap wrenches, here's one for you. It seems like about the best price you can get for tools shaped objects without considering brand, durability, country of origin or other factors that people use in evaluating tools. https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/toolworks-5-pc-metric-combination-wrench-set-tw2729/9010374-p?c3ch=PLA&c3nid=9010374-P&adtype=pla&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIn4bW8s632wIVA0CGCh1eCgc1EAQYAiABEgLKw_D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

Here's another for a local auto parts store; they have a wide assortment of cheaper wrenches: https://www.oreillyauto.com/shop/b/tools---equipment-16488/tools-23747/hand-tools-16814/wrench-16658/wrench-sets-18010/4a06f70103d5 You can even buy cheap wrenches at wal-mart.
 

speedpro

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If you're talking about Proto or other quality manufacturer, I'd like to have you post where they can be bought for those low prices.

If you're talking about comparing HF, dewalt, autocraft, toolworks, Craftsman, gearwrench, the house brand at autozone or o'reiley's or other import wrenches, that's old news. It's been beat to death around here. Most people are quite aware that there are cheap tool alternatives to the more expensive tool lines. The guys that are interested in these wrenches are not generally interested in substituting cheap ratcheting or flexing wrenches instead.

If you'd like a link to cheap wrenches, here's one for you. It seems like about the best price you can get for tools shaped objects without considering brand, durability, country of origin or other factors that people use in evaluating tools. https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/toolworks-5-pc-metric-combination-wrench-set-tw2729/9010374-p?c3ch=PLA&c3nid=9010374-P&adtype=pla&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIn4bW8s632wIVA0CGCh1eCgc1EAQYAiABEgLKw_D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

Here's another for a local auto parts store; they have a wide assortment of cheaper wrenches: https://www.oreillyauto.com/shop/b/tools---equipment-16488/tools-23747/hand-tools-16814/wrench-16658/wrench-sets-18010/4a06f70103d5 You can even buy cheap wrenches at wal-mart.

Linking to the cheapest wrenches you can find isn't really a great example to justify overly expensive wrenches. This is a deal sub-forum, so I'll always chime in when people waste money on items that far from deals, in an attempt to save them money. Most major tool brands are owned by the same few large corps, spit out by the same manufacturing machines that have existed for over 170+ years, by the same foreign metal from China, Japan, Canada, Mexico, etc... The only difference being that some machines are based in U.S. and not Taiwan, then sold as a *premium* brand.

The is an extremely simplified tool to manufacture. There's no special or expensive process to justify the prices of these wrenches. It's stamped metal spit out from a hot forging machine, all wrenches are manufactured the same. Tool torture tests where they're put under stresses that will never be seen under daily use show that most foreign brands meet and often exceed the gold tier Snap-On. I know this will get many tool snobs going, but I firmly believe overly expensive tools are the Gucci, Apple, Louis Vuitton of the tool world. You're not getting any better quality over mid-tier tools like Kobalt, Husky, GearWrench, and even Harbor Freight other than the self-pride luxury of owning an expensive brand. I know professional mechanics that have been wrenching for 30+ years with non-professional tools and they're not any less of a great mechanic or have any more tools breaking than the guys who went into deep debt purchasing luxury tools with a fancy stamped brand. If that's your thing, thing by all means go for it.
 
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Linking to the cheapest wrenches you can find isn't really a great example to justify overly expensive wrenches. This is a deal sub-forum, so I'll always chime in when people waste money on items that far from deals, in an attempt to save them money. Most major tool brands are owned by the same few large corps, spit out by the same manufacturing machines that have existed for over 170+ years, by the same foreign metal from China, Japan, Canada, Mexico, etc... The only difference being that some machines are based in U.S. and not Taiwan, then sold as a *premium* brand.

The is an extremely simplified tool to manufacture. There's no special or expensive process to justify the prices of these wrenches. It's stamped metal spit out from a hot forging machine, all wrenches are manufactured the same. I know this will get many tool snobs going, but I firmly believe overly expensive tools are the Gucci, Apple, Louis Vuitton of the tool world. You're not getting any better quality over mid-tier tools like Kobalt, Husky, and even Harbor Freight other than the self-pride luxury of owning an expensive brand. If that's your thing, thing by all means go for it.
That's nice honey - go back to working under your shade tree with your chinesium tools. :lol_hitti

Just an example for you - Tekton wrenches cost to value vs these proto wrenches.
Proto is leaps and bounds better and imho on par with Flank Drive + SO wrenches.
Tekton 1 1/16 $18 vs Proto ASD $17.75 https://www.tekton.com/1-1-16-inch-combination-wrench-18267
Tekton 1 1/8 $21 vs Proto ASD $20.36 https://www.tekton.com/1-1-8-inch-combination-wrench-18268
Tekton 1 1/4 $23 vs Proto ASD $26.94 https://www.tekton.com/1-1-4-inch-combination-wrench-18271
 
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Those are good prices. I've got a collection of American made large wrenches. Some bought used. I buy them when I find deals.

If you are putting a cheater pipe on it you will soon know the difference between american and Chinese wrenches.
 
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If you are putting a cheater pipe on it you will soon know the difference between american and Chinese wrenches.

Yes you will. I watched a cheap 2” ATD spread without a cheater pipe on it. The price for the 2” Proto here is a great deal in my opinion
 

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The newer crowd here at GarageJournal seems mostly interested in buying junk tools for a cheap price. Honestly, I don't really care what they do. It's their money, time, and they can live with the results. However, when they start bad mouthing the good tools as overpriced junk and equating the good tools to what they appreciate, then I see a problem.
 

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The newer crowd here at GarageJournal seems mostly interested in buying junk tools for a cheap price. Honestly, I don't really care what they do. It's their money, time, and they can live with the results. However, when they start bad mouthing the good tools as overpriced junk and equating the good tools to what they appreciate, then I see a problem.

It is kind of amusing, in an abstract way. I used a 1 13/16" wrench last week. (Proto, that is what I own). Couldn't get enough leverage to break loose the slightly rusty nut, had to hit it a few times with a heavy hammer. I think the retorque spec for that nut is 300 ft-lbs. No way I would have used a ratcheting or flex wrench for that use; even if I could get them cheaper. I do have confidence that the Proto would do the job; the chinese and taiwan wrenches I've seen used like this were deformed after the first use. Mine is probably about 40 years old, and has been used like this it's entire life; and is still in excellent condition.

Thanks for the link, OP, the prices are not bad for these large wrenches. Might seem expensive, but worth it if you need them.
 

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The newer crowd here at GarageJournal seems mostly interested in buying junk tools for a cheap price.

Unfortunately, this whole forum has seemingly gotten less valuable to me at least over the years. I don't really care about a toilet paper dispenser marked 90% off at Home Depot, but that seems to be the bulk of what is there. I wish we'd do sub forums or something, one for tools, one for fixtures/storage, maybe consumables, and then misc. I think the guy who doesn't value high quality tools is just another example of how what is valued here has changed. I miss the days when I could go on here, and find Knipex on sale at Amazon, or maybe some sales on SK or Wright-Grip. Was really happy when I saw this on the front page, though I don't think I'll be taking advantage of the prices.
 
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