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2020 has been a good year for WorkMates so far. I finally scored a cast model to go with the two WM400 I have. And then a Bench Top WM a week later.

I have to snap some decent pics of the rest...
I have one of those bench topper workmates. Think I got it at a True Value around 1986/7 at a markdown price.
My wife teaches an art/life-skills class of about six 10 and 11 year-olds. I loaned her the little benchmate and the kids and other teachers were really impressed.
 
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Actually, the single height ones have on advantage, the thinner top, without the double thickness rapt the edge.

I can use my log jaws on the single height, not on my good ones.


Nick, say hi to Mister and Taco.
 
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Quite a few of the dual-height models also have single-layer jaws that might allow that use. In the vintage dual-height 79-001's, the Type 3 and the Type 5 through 9 all have single-layer jaws.
 

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Quite a few of the dual-height models also have single-layer jaws that might allow that use. In the vintage dual-height 79-001's, the Type 3 and the Type 5 through 9 all have single-layer jaws.


None of mine, 1 type one, 2 type two, 1 type four have single layer, thus the cheapie.
 

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You know how we've mentioned more than a few times that the Gripmate hold-down clamps are often found without their plastic bushings, making them useless? Well, I found a couple of the bushings today without the clamps. Unfortunately, they're installed in the jaws of a Workmate for sale on eBay, and the owner probably has no idea what they are.

And does anyone know what the round metal rod inserted in another one of the jaw holes is?
 

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I picked up this NO. 79-004 TYPE 1 Workmate today off Facebook Marketplace. It’s in excellent condition, the only thing I’ve found wrong with it is one of the plastic rotating handles has a crack on the back collar. It’s still functional but are there parts still available or are these handles compatible with newer models? It also has the dual electric outlet on it. It’s nice that someone really took care of this and never let it sit out in the rain like so many other ones I seen online. Only thing I did was clean this up with some windex followed by a little Johnson’s Paste Wax and it almost looks like new. I just hope I can take as good care of it as it’s previous owners.
Does anyone know the date this one was sold? I paid $40 which seems like a pretty good deal considering the condition.

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And does anyone know what the round metal rod inserted in another one of the jaw holes is?

Looks like a random leveling feet, did you buy it?

I picked up this NO. 79-004 TYPE 1 Workmate today off Facebook Marketplace.

Looks absolute mint, is that electrical box original Black&Decker on the side?
Do you have a better picture of the mounting/backside of that electrical box?
 

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The 79-004 is from 1978-79, and its distinguishing feature is the electrical power strip. Other than that, it is sort of a mashup of parts from the Workmate 79-001 Type 4 and Type 6. It cost more than the 79-001 and does not appear to have sold very well, so they are not as common as the 79-001.

What we got in the U.S. as the 79-004 was sold in Canada under an entirely different name -- the Jobmate 3980, even though all of the Workmate 79-001's were sold under identical names in the U.S. and Canada.

I do notice two things apparently missing on yours. First is the feet that come into play when you fold the legs under and use it at its "sawhorse" height. If you look at the attached photo, you'll see a round rubber bumper mounted on the surface of each leg, near its upper end. On yours, I'm pretty sure I see the empty threaded holes that these mount in. If you use yours in that position, the painted legs will scrape on the floor. Those feet were packaged separately, to be installed by the owner, and are sometimes missing because the owner never installed them. Second thing not shown is the 12-foot extension cord that was originally included. This is almost always missing.

As far as features, the 79-004 has those bumper feet and the plastic top-latch levers from the 79-001 Type 6. From the 79-001 Type 4 it has the aluminum H-frame, and from the Type 2 the four screw-in feet at the ends of the legs (for full-height use). Some, like yours, have the dual-layer jaws of the 79-001 Type 4 while later ones have the single-layer jaws of the 79-001 Type 6. The dual-layer jaws can be either plywood, like yours, or veneered MDF. Both of these variations also exist for the 79-001 Type 4.

No parts are available for this model, and I can't tell you whether currently available parts from other models would work.
 

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Looks like a random leveling feet, did you buy it?

I was asking about the round metal rod in one of the jaw holes (see photo, near the right-hand end of the front jaw). It's definitely not a foot. It looks as though it might have threads, so possibly just a large flat-head machine screw dropped into the jaw hole for some reason.
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I picked up this NO. 79-004 TYPE 1 Workmate today off Facebook Marketplace. It’s in excellent condition, the only thing I’ve found wrong with it is one of the plastic rotating handles has a crack on the back collar. It’s still functional but are there parts still available or are these handles compatible with newer models? It also has the dual electric outlet on it. It’s nice that someone really took care of this and never let it sit out in the rain like so many other ones I seen online. Only thing I did was clean this up with some windex followed by a little Johnson’s Paste Wax and it almost looks like new. I just hope I can take as good care of it as it’s previous owners.
Does anyone know the date this one was sold? I paid $40 which seems like a pretty good deal considering the condition.

DaveT, may I be the first to say , You ****!. That is an awesome find and at a great price. and just to confirm you do really!.
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CNN: Thanks! I am pretty sure the outlet strip is the original one. It is held on by slot head screw from behind.

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Wolf: Thank you for all the great info. That’s what’s so amazing about The Garage Journal is there’re are so many knowledgeable people willing to share.
Yes I had read where there was a 12ft cord that came with this Workmate. Would have been cool if it was still there. As for the rubber bumper feet on the legs I did not realize they was supposed to be there. There is a hole but it does not look to be threaded. I imagine those were held on by a screw through the hole from behind and the rubber bumper would have threads. I’m pretty sure I can find something similar at the hardware store. Thanks for pointing that out.

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y’sguy: There you go! I was hoping to get a “You ****” so that I knew I got a good deal :)
 

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As for the rubber bumper feet on the legs I did not realize they was supposed to be there. There is a hole but it does not look to be threaded. I imagine those were held on by a screw through the hole from behind and the rubber bumper would have threads.

You're right that it's hard to tell that the hole is threaded, but I can pretty much guarantee that it is. I have owned several Workmates with the bumper feet, including two 79-004's. The feet are not threaded.

It's a 10-32 thread. If you have a screw of that size, and some WD-40, Liquid Wrench or similar, try threading the screw slowly into the hole, backing out when needed. I bought a Type 7 a few weeks ago that included the original bumper feet and screws in a bag; they had never been installed. The holes had rusted a bit, and the screws didn't want to go in. At first I didn't think it was going to work, but with patience it did.
 
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Here are some more detailed photos of the bumper feet that would have come from the factory with your 79-004. The foot is solid rubber, with no threads. The unthreaded shank you can see on the screw is 15/64", somewhat larger than the 3/16" diameter of the 10-32 threaded portion and just the right size to fit the hole in the rubber foot. The "back" of the foot is curved to match the profile of the leg where it mounts.
 

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Wolf:
Thanks for the additional info. It looks like I will have a little project to find some similar feet and modify them with the curved back so they fit right.

The holding power of the plastic dogs is pretty impressive. I am currently in the process of building a workbench at home out of some walnut and ash. The Workmate already came in handy to do a little quick planing on a couple boards before running them through the jointer.

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I was asking about the round metal rod in one of the jaw holes (see photo, near the right-hand end of the front jaw). It's definitely not a foot. It looks as though it might have threads, so possibly just a large flat-head machine screw dropped into the jaw hole for some reason.
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It's a vague picture but it still looks to me like a feet, kinda like these:

https://bit.ly/3a80yg8 or https://bit.ly/3bcQ27E
 
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You're right, it does look somewhat like those examples. (I thought you were saying it looked like a foot for the Workmate itself.)

So why would a foot be in one of the jaw holes? Did someone just put it in there randomly, or was it there for a purpose?
 
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I don't think it will replace a WM, but it does look interesting. It doesn't look like the adjustable center section could take much load front and back say like heavy cut planing wood. I'm thinking it might be a nice supplement to a WM equiped shop but not a replacement. Still hoping for a first hand accounting from some of you that have Menards in your area. (Lucky So & Sos) perhaps even an in store inspection might be nice to have. Nudge nudge...

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Does that come with decent facing jaws for straight clamping? It almost looks like it relies on the dogs alone. I wouldn't want to use the extruded part as a jaw face...
 

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I got a Workmate as a Christmas gift sometime way back in 1980 I think. I'm using it right now with my 12" Delta Compound Mitre Slide saw clamped on top, building my shop garage. In the past I've used it as the engine stand for numerous motorcycle engine projects. Its one of the best, most used gifts I've ever gotten.

Workmate,..one of the best brand names applied to a shop tool product.
 

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Does that come with decent facing jaws for straight clamping? It almost looks like it relies on the dogs alone. I wouldn't want to use the extruded part as a jaw face...

I don't think it does, nor can I find any as accessories just more dogs. Probably just the 4 pads as shown and I assume they can slide in the slots as needed.
Probably why I can't find any photos of one actually in use holding a board. :)
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It looks like some could be fabricated easily enough. Like I said it looks interesting perhaps as a supplemental device to a workmate not as a replacement.

Still if anyone has seen one in person or used one for a project, please chime in here. Thanks.
 
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Marty, what bike are you riding in the Avatar? Trail 90/110, or something bigger?

Hmmm...wish I had a photo of it clamped in my workmate...but as little as it is, I still can't lift it by myself. It's a '75 Honda Trail 90 with a 125cc chinesium clone engine with a regular clutch and 12v electrics. Cooler on the back is being used as a top case, photo taken on the Old Ore road in Big Bend N.P.



LINK to more

Please forgive the off topic guys...it's not my fault, I was just sittin' here social isolatin' and lubin' my...ah... B&D Workmate when I received a question.
 

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Do you still have hi-lo? I think the Chicom clones don't have that?

Bigger pic for those interested - Nice looking bike!

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Do you still have hi-lo? I think the Chicom clones don't have that?

You are correct, no hi-lo trans just 4 speed. It is however adequate. Top speed about 45-47 mph flat and level and 50+ mph downhill. 1st gear is plenty low. The electronic ignition (I'm told that decent points for the original ignition are hard to find and the ones readily available just don't last), 12 volt lighting and a real manual clutch instead of a centrifugal clutch are a more than fair trade for the loss of the high-low trans.
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OK, back to Workmates.......I'm planning on making a stand on wheels that will hold both my workmate and my Keter stand. It'll have a drawer on the bottom for the hold downs and clamps n such.

Also I've noticed that WEN makes a work stand almost exactly like the Menard's one except for paint & plastics colors. At home depot it's cheaper as well.
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It's likely both are made by the same company. Probably not Menards as they are a retailer, possibly Wen? Not sure if they manufacture that type of product.

I suspect this is made in Asia, Wen might possibly be the designing company, but might not...


We've been designing and distributing high quality and affordable power tools for decades.

Not a word about manufacturing...
 

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Menards doesn’t make any tools, like sears before they have them made to their specifications by many companies, foreign and domestic. Wen is Asian for sure but I am not sure if they are even a manufacture or just an importer/brand name.

Menards does actually make a lot of their own stuff however. They make a lot of structural hardware similar to Simpson strong tie, screws, and nails under the Midwest manufacturing name (good stuff)and most of their doors and millwork under the Mastercraft name(some ok and some junk). They at least took their own roofing panels and I think make their own trusses.
 

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Picked up a second Workmate today. It’s an identical match to the first one I got NO. 79-004 TYPE 1 1978-1979 but not in as good of condition. I’ve only had the first one for a couple weeks but have really found it useful. having two makes a nice sawhorse option. I put them to work already today!

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Got one from my father when I was 15-16, 25+ yrs later (not telling how much + :) still going strong...
Thankful for his gifts (workmate, socket sets, hammers, pulley remover, ...) when I was young, probably helped me doing what I'm doing now.
 

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Here is another picture on my two workmates being used as I’m building a workbench. Being able to lower the the workmates and use them with the tables down made this the perfect height to stand the workbench pieces on end. I’m sure glad I I found this treasure of a product!

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Used this bench type that I got when my dad passed several years ago.

This was at our place in Georgia.

I have three of the floor models as well, I'll post a picture of those later.
 

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