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Blackhawk Tools by Proto

nikonica

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I have a ton of current Blackhawk sockets and ratchets, screwdrivers, punches and chisels, and pliers. Numerous times on here I have seen Blackhawk written off as another glorious American hand tool icon that has been offshored and applied to generic imported tools of average quality.

However, all of my Blackhawk tools, purchased new during the past six months, are clearly marked "Made in USA" on the tools themselves and on the packaging. No "global components" are mentioned. The round head ratchets are identical in design to a Challenger ratchet that I bought in the late '90s as a kid. All the Blackhawk tools I have seen at five different Grainger stores here in Washington and one Grainger store in Oakland, California are also marked "Made in USA." All the Blackhawk tools I have seen on Grainger's website are identified with the country of origin "USA." I have seen dozens of Blackhawk tools on eBay, and they are all "Made in USA," determined either from the descriptions or from the photos.

The only Blackhawk tools I have ever seen that were imported are the ratcheting wrenches (which look pretty nice, btw), the indexable ratchet, and the "Rotator" ratchet.

So, my question is, are the American-made tools being phased out, or is there a major misconception floating around? I'd hate for the die-hard "USA" tool purchasers to write off another American tool brand when in fact Stanley Proto is still producing a unique, high-quality product alongside the expensive Proto line. The sockets I have are nothing like any other current Proto or Stanley sockets - the design appears to be completely unique to Blackhawk. The quality is first-class, with a uniform finish on all the tools and good chrome plating. I would liken these current Blackhawk tools to recent, pre-bankruptcy S-K in terms of the target market and the durability, but with better consistency. The screwdrivers are some of my favorite acetate-handled screwdrivers - they are very comfortable.

I will post some pictures this weekend when I have a chance.
 
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dede2897234

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nikonica,

I purchased 2 to 3 years ago on eBay a Blackhawk model# PT-1004, 10 inch, slip-joint combination plier. I thought they would be made in the USA. However, when I received them, I saw stamped on one of the handles "Korea". I was disappointed to see this COO. The teeth are properly machined, chrome is evenly applied, jaws are properly aligned when closed, and the plier feels heavy duty. Here is a link to the plier on Blackhawk's website: LINK.


Dave
 

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The only Blackhawk set I have is (1/4' drive) is identical to the Proto set.

Excellent quality and made in the USA

The Blackhawk rat is the top one, above the Cornwell
 

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lbgradwell

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Blackhawk's COO was recently discussed here...


Here is a link to the plier on Blackhawk's website: LINK.

...where the photo shows a tool clearly marked "USA". This is why it's difficult to have faith in the website info; is the photo old or has production switched back to the USA?


The only Blackhawk set I have is (1/4' drive) is identical to the Proto set.

Ironically, that is a ratchet that may very well not have been made in the USA in spite of the marking! It's essentially the Blackhawk version of the Craftsman "tri-wing" and it is well-known that those were made in Taiwan. Additionally, that model dates from a period when Stanley intentionally deceived consumers by marking tools "USA" when they were imported. :mad:
 

chevy302dz

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nikonica,

I purchased 2 to 3 years ago on eBay a Blackhawk model# PT-1004, 10 inch, slip-joint combination plier. I thought they would be made in the USA. However, when I received them, I saw stamped on one of the handles "Korea". I was disappointed to see this COO. The teeth are properly machined, chrome is evenly applied, jaws are properly aligned when closed, and the plier feels heavy duty. Here is a link to the plier on Blackhawk's website: LINK.


Dave

Actually the Korea made Blackhawk pliers are older, like at least 20+ years old.
 

dede2897234

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Actually the Korea made Blackhawk pliers are older, like at least 20+ years old.


chevy302dz,

Thanks for the information about the COO.

I took pictures of my Korean made Blackhawk PT-1004 and would like to compare it to the current production PT-1004s:

New PT-1004 From Blackhawk's Website

BlackhawkPT-1004Slip-JointPlierWebsitePicture.jpg


Old Korean Made Blackhawk PT-1004

MyBlackhawkPT-1004Slip-JointPlier4.jpg


When comparing the two, the new PT-1004 has two oval shaped jaw areas: a small jaw followed by a larger jaw. The Korean made PT-1004 does not have the two jaw sizes but one large circular jaw.


Other Pictures of the Korean PT-1004

MyBlackhawkPT-1004Slip-JointPlier3.jpg


MyBlackhawkPT-1004Slip-JointPlier1.jpg



Laser Etching of Brand Name, Model, and COO of New PT-1004

BlackhawkPT-1004Slip-JointPlierWebsitePicture.jpg


Stamping of Brand Name and Model of Korean PT-1004

MyBlackhawkPT-1004Slip-JointPlier2.jpg



Dave
 
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ToddyB

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All the Blackhawk sockets I have bought online and at at Grainger are marked U.S.A., and I have not noticed any difference from my Proto sockets. I only have 1 blackhawk wrench; it is shorter than my Proto wrenches though, but also marked U.S.A. I agree about the quality of Blackhawk ratcheting wrenches as being as good as any on the market. Blackhawk as many other brands seems to be ok with importing tools in areas they do not consider their strong suit while maintaining domestic production for their bread and butter lines.
 
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jammer1001

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I have a ton of current Blackhawk sockets and ratchets, screwdrivers, punches and chisels, and pliers. Numerous times on here I have seen Blackhawk written off as another glorious American hand tool icon that has been offshored and applied to generic imported tools of average quality.

However, all of my Blackhawk tools, purchased new during the past six months, are clearly marked "Made in USA" on the tools themselves and on the packaging. No "global components" are mentioned. The round head ratchets are identical in design to a Challenger ratchet that I bought in the late '90s as a kid. All the Blackhawk tools I have seen at five different Grainger stores here in Washington and one Grainger store in Oakland, California are also marked "Made in USA." All the Blackhawk tools I have seen on Grainger's website are identified with the country of origin "USA." I have seen dozens of Blackhawk tools on eBay, and they are all "Made in USA," determined either from the descriptions or from the photos.

The only Blackhawk tools I have ever seen that were imported are the ratcheting wrenches (which look pretty nice, btw), the indexable ratchet, and the "Rotator" ratchet.

So, my question is, are the American-made tools being phased out, or is there a major misconception floating around? I'd hate for the die-hard "USA" tool purchasers to write off another American tool brand when in fact Stanley Proto is still producing a unique, high-quality product alongside the expensive Proto line. The sockets I have are nothing like any other current Proto or Stanley sockets - the design appears to be completely unique to Blackhawk. The quality is first-class, with a uniform finish on all the tools and good chrome plating. I would liken these current Blackhawk tools to recent, pre-bankruptcy S-K in terms of the target market and the durability, but with better consistency. The screwdrivers are some of my favorite acetate-handled screwdrivers - they are very comfortable.

I will post some pictures this weekend when I have a chance.
Black hawk is made by Stanley and is of very good quality, there made in Sabbath Texas and I believe in the same plant Mac tools are made. I'm a BIG fan of Black hawk and have experienced very little problem with them not to mention there customer support is great!
 

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I am biting my tougue and holding my nose saying this, but all my limited experiences with Korean products have been top notch. I bought a Samsung tv back in the mid eighties as a bedroom backup. At the time, Samsung was a cheap nobody. The tv lasted forever and gave great service. Now, Samsung is the state of the art in electronics. Way above the Sharp I had before.

Same thing with my Actron multi-meter. For $99 I get the same quality and features as a $400 fluke. While it disturbs me to no end to say all this, it is what it is.
 

jontar

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I use and buy Blackhawk when ever I can, its harder to come by up here in Canada, but i have a couple socket sets and wrench sets, and a very old tap and die set
 

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In January I bought a large pile of new Blackhawk tools; all of the screwdrivers and wrenches were marked as made in U.S.A. The only exception in the group was the PT-1280 (old GM style) hose clamp pliers; they were made in Japan and very high quality.

Shameless link to my sale ad here: http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=185077

RM209
 
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Mr. Tool

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A while back (about a month or less) I purchased a BLACKHAWK 7-piece Torx set, by PROTO and on it, it clearly reads U.S.A. made!
 

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