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I am looking for a "proper" oil filter tool for the Toyota/Lexus applications. I hear from many that the Blue Point is the top product for this, but have also heard the Motivx, AST and other brands like the Tool Guy Republic one that looks similar to the Blue Point one on Amazon work just as well, some say better and others worse. What have others used and what have your experiences been?

It seems the real problem is people over tightening the filter housing, as others have stated, believing that the tighter it is seals better when it is the o-ring that seals, not insane torque. Regardless of that, I just want a tool that works on them, over tightened or not. While I have not worked on many of these, I would also believe that prior people damaging the housing from improper removal or tightening will also be a factor here, as if the housing is damaged, even the best filter cap will not fit properly.

So others do not need to look up the tools I am referencing, here are links:
1. Blue Point: https://shop.snapon.com/product/Oil-Filter-Wrenches/Oil-Filter-Wrench-(Blue-Point)/OFTOY468
2. AST: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0015PK3AG/?tag=atomicindus08-20
3. Tool Guy Republic: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01B8O0BFU/?tag=atomicindus08-20
4. Motivx: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XTAGHU0/?tag=atomicindus08-20

I also want to note that cost is a factor, so I have no intent to buy Blue Point just to see the name on the tool. If there is a true advantage, sure, but performance is far more important than the name on the tool.
 
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Toyota filter cups were one of my first purchases off the truck when I first got into automotive repair. I think my first was a 5-piece low profile socket set for cartridge style oil filters.

Anyway, I still have my BluePoint OFWTOY4A and OFWTOY4A, although they haven't been used in a long time. I don't own a Toyota, but they were in the shop every day.

If I were buying one these days, I would go with Motivx. They make good tools. Just be sure you get the right size for your application/engine.
 

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I have the AST. It's aluminum and does not fit very tightly. Because of this it often gets stuck on the filter cap when removing, and then again when torquing the cap back to 18 ft lbs. I was looking at the Tool Guy Republic myself since they advertise forged Cr-V steel.
 
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I have never changed one but those seem expensive. Unless you're going to be doing them daily, I'd look around.

Canadian tire sells them for $10.49CAD which is about 8.50-9 bucks US.

https://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/motomaster-toyota-lexus-cap-wrench-6-cut-64-mm-0283579p.html
The main difference between the product I am referencing and the one you suggest is the design and application. First, the one you mention has the notches in the design where the others I mention do now. These notches only allow the tool to be used on some of the engines, the others need a second size which is slightly different. The ones I mentioned do not have the notches and grip only to the bottom portion. It is stated that this avoids a common problem of bending and breaking the tabs which can cause oil leaks. I have never experienced that, but there is enough talk on it that I believe that it has at least happened to many people before.

There are products local here as well that use the notch design, however, this would require the purchase of two products vs one, making the price almost the same, and depending on what you listen to, possible having two of a lesser quality than the one of a different design.

As you state, I have no experience with these specific tools. I used an oil filter pliers on those I have done prior. I dislike this as I do not want to leave marks or possibly damage on the filter housings. Buying a proper tool is cheaper than having to replace a housing on my dime.
 

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I have and recommend the Tool Guy, Bluepoint style.
Mine is the PBT 71117 version.
Sometimes on tight housings, ill cram a paper towel on with the filter and it grabs better.
I use it on spin-on filters too.
 
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I have the AST, used it on our Sienna as a home gamer. It worked but was always getting stuck in the housing as others have mentioned. It would not be my choice as a pro doing regular Toyota service. I can tell you that the socket drive is dumb as well, just broaching a 3/8 drive would have made it’s sticking to the cup bearable.

Both the motive and capri look as good as the AST one I have and they have 3/8 drive slots.
 
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I don’t have a Toyota specific one, but have the blue point and the AST in different sizes. The blue point tends to work a little better than the AST but both do the job just fine.
 
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I needed to make a decision to purchase, and I opted for the Motivx version. at a price of $30. A lot to spend on an oil filter wrench / socket, so we will see. thanks to all who provided input.
 
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I would like to query those here that might know more about this than I do... why are some of these made of aluminum, some Cr-V and some plastic... and I assume some other materials? What are the reasons for these different materials? The good old wrench is made of alloy steel, and that has never really changed.
 

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I own and do maintenance on Toyotas and Lexus (some other makes too like Honda and Ram and Kia) and I had the same dilemma as you. I went with the two different size Lisle universal filter wrenches. They have worked flawlessly for me. I have taken filters off of my brother’s Ram 3500, regularly use them on my Tacoma, my girlfriends civic, my parents Lexus. Never had a problem. They don’t crush filters but grip tightly. I used to always try to man grip filters off dirt before using a wrench but I don’t even bother, the wrench is so easy and convenient. I bought both sizes because it allows me to do small filters like the civic and big filters like the ram 3500. They’re also relatively inexpensive which is nice!

Lisle-63250 filter wrench 3 1/8”-3 7/8” WIDE RANGE

Lisle-63600-Oil-Filter-Wrench 2 1/2”-3 1/8” SMALL

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Out of the options you listed, I have heard the best user reviews on this site on the MotivX filter wrenches
 
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I have the motivx ,get it You won't be disappointed
I don't bother with the draining part of changing the filter, just loosen it up and drop it down ...
18 ft lb is all you need for tightening
I have had to use a 4 ft breaker bar to loosen some of those ......
 

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Still hunting for the best tool for this application. I replaced my AST with the PBT71117. While it's a nicer tool that is made out of steel rather than aluminum, it still occasionally gets stuck to the filter housing. Certainly a minor problem but would like to see if there is something better.

I'm looking at the KTC tool that appears to grab the splines on the housing rather than the flats. Their catalog lists two part numbers for my applications (1UR-FSE and 3UR-FE) and I am not sure what the difference is.


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Lisle makes a chrome socket type one. Link below.

Pretty good quality and I haven’t had any issues with it but my filter housing is aluminum not plastic. I choose it over the tool guy republic one cause it is 3/8 square drive versus 1/2 inch.

 

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Still hunting for the best tool for this application. I replaced my AST with the PBT71117. While it's a nicer tool that is made out of steel rather than aluminum, it still occasionally gets stuck to the filter housing. Certainly a minor problem but would like to see if there is something better.

I'm looking at the KTC tool that appears to grab the splines on the housing rather than the flats. Their catalog lists two part numbers for my applications (1UR-FSE and 3UR-FE) and I am not sure what the difference is.


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I just tap the side of the 71117 and the cap falls right out.
The CTA 1726 comes highly recommended from some techs, but I haven't tried it.
https://ctatools.com/products/1726
Be aware there are knockoffs of this that look similar, but CTA is the OG.
 

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Wow. I want a thread like this for a fluted cup tool for a PF48 / 63 that also clears the OEM oil pan(s.) Might be a 74mm 15 flute. The Lisle 63600 needs 3/8 or 1/2 broach with more depth and better pan clearance. The Lisle steel strap is what I use. The steel cup I have has an outer lip hitting the 2006+ truck pan.
 

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Perhaps getting a K&N filter might help out? Some of their filters have a 1" nut welded into the base of the filter, making it accessible with a socket and ratchet. Maybe they offer one for your application?
I strongly considered switching to them a few years ago, as with oil and dirt the filter on the van was often a pain to get on and off. But I had a supply of filters to use up, and now can no longer work on the car, so never made the switch.

 

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Still hunting for the best tool for this application. I replaced my AST with the PBT71117. While it's a nicer tool that is made out of steel rather than aluminum, it still occasionally gets stuck to the filter housing. Certainly a minor problem but would like to see if there is something better.

I'm looking at the KTC tool that appears to grab the splines on the housing rather than the flats. Their catalog lists two part numbers for my applications (1UR-FSE and 3UR-FE) and I am not sure what the difference is.


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I have a fleet (5) of Toyotas that I maintain. I gave away my AST when I bought the MotivX. I didn’t like having to use an extension and a 24 mm socket on the AST. Extension only for the MotivX tool. The Toyota crowd has warned of using the splined style wrench in situations where the plastic filter housing has been over tightened. There is a possibility of cracking the housing by exerting all the force on the tabs. You can’t trust if a filter has been tightened properly, unless you were the one that installed it. The MotivX can still get stuck, but a quick reverse of the ratchet pops it loose.

The MotivX is made in the USA if that matters.
 
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