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drabe7

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first things first lets not have this become a COO argument and start flinging **** everywhere

my mom was wondering what i wanted for christmas from the snap on man that comes to the marina she works at. i asked for a set of snap on screwdrivers but i also the want a 3/8 drive socket set. the snap on general service one is like $600 and the blue point one is like $220. i have one blue point item and that is a 11mm wrench i found on the side of the road. the finish is nice and it hasnt rounded a bolt yet. is there a real difference besides COO?
 
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first things first lets not have this become a COO argument and start flinging **** everywhere

my mom was wondering what i wanted for christmas from the snap on man that comes to the marina she works at. i asked for a set of snap on screwdrivers but i also i want a s 3/8 drive socket set. the snap on general service one is like $600 and the blue point one is like $220. i have one blue point item and that is a 11mm wrench i found on the side of the road. the finish is nice and it hasnt rounded a bolt yet. is there a real difference besides COO?

I have some blue point tools I bought awhile ago and I really like them. Blue point and snap on are made by same people. If I was you, I go with the blue point as they are a little cheaper and they are about the same from what my experience has been with my tools. Haven't had a problem with either one breaking or anything. I think it is maybe just the COO.
 

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I think its only COO.

I have some blue point tools I bought awhile ago and I really like them. Blue point and snap on are made by same people. If I was you, I go with the blue point as they are a little cheaper and they are about the same from what my experience has been with my tools. Haven't had a problem with either one breaking or anything. I think it is maybe just the COO.

Wrong and wrong again.

I'm not sure what the real deal is with the difference between them. There are a BUNCH of US made blue point tools. I heard once that blue point was tools snap on sells but doesn't make themselves, rebranded tools. But someone on here the other day said that wasn't true. For hardline tools like sockets and wrenches I believe all blue point are made overseas and snap on made here. But snap on sells allen wrenches made in spain under the snap on name. They also sell things like this battery wrench made in the US under the blue point name, http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item...roup_ID=675575&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog. So I don't know the real answer but from what I have seen it has nothing to do with COO. Most blue point tools are rebranded from other manufacturers so they aren't all made by the same people either.
 

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Wrong and wrong again.

I'm not sure what the real deal is with the difference between them. There are a BUNCH of US made blue point tools. I heard once that blue point was tools snap on sells but doesn't make themselves, rebranded tools. But someone on here the other day said that wasn't true. For hardline tools like sockets and wrenches I believe all blue point are made overseas and snap on made here. But snap on sells allen wrenches made in spain under the snap on name. They also sell things like this battery wrench made in the US under the blue point name, http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item...roup_ID=675575&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog. So I don't know the real answer but from what I have seen it has nothing to do with COO. Most blue point tools are rebranded from other manufacturers so they aren't all made by the same people either.

That's what I have heard was Blue point was made by snap on sold by them. All my blue points I have got from flea markets are made in USA it says. I heard this from my ex that they were made by snap on, so I guess his information is incorrct also! Thanks for clearing that up. But I've not had any problem still with mine :)
 
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Blue point tools are the same as the imported Williams line and Williams can be had for alot less even though they are the same tools if i were you i would take a good look at this set http://store.harryepstein.com/cp/Sktools/94547.html for 3/8 drive have a good day :).
i can get the same set for $110 at an antique store near me. btw i was never fan of SK rachets. i love their sockets as i have a full 1/2" shallow set and a few oddball 3/8 from the flea market
 
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That's what I have heard was Blue point was made by snap on sold by them. All my blue points I have got from flea markets are made in USA it says. I heard this from my ex that they were made by snap on, so I guess his information is incorrct also! Thanks for clearing that up. But I've not had any problem still with mine :)

I believe the newer blue point sockets are made by a company owned by snap on. But the newer blue point sockets are made in Taiwan. I'm not a snap on expert so I'm not sure how they decide what tools get the snap on logo or what tools get the blue point logo but from my searching of their website it's no COO and snap on doesn't make all the blue point tools and I think there are even some snap on tools that snap on doesn't make, like tap and die sets and many other things.
 

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Wrong and wrong again.

So I don't know the real answer .

So then why %^$% reply with more conjecture and false claims???????????????????????

Older Blue Point tools are indeed of a high quality and US made and were sold to fill in tool arers that the "hardline" Snap-On tools had no prescence in a'la adjustable wrenches, specialty tools, etc.. Now this was decades ago when far les hand tools were even being made.

That has now evelved into Blue Point being the line that fills in the tools (still specailty in a lot of cases) and lower cost "starter" tools sets that Snap-On does not usually desire to produce themselves (and gets young tools users into the Snap-On buying fold) or finds it more cost effective to source from a vendor. Overseas factories that are owned or have a mfr. agreement with S-O are also a source of some of the Blue Point tools, but even to this day it is quite vague as to what is made where and by whom and at what factory.

I'm sure they are made to specs that Snap-On specifies, or if just a re-brand, meets or exceeds what they require.

Also, the warranty also applies only to the orginal purchaser and they are quite strict and dilligent as to ensure that you are the original buyer.
BTDT. If you have a long standing driver that knows you, getting anything warrantied should never be a problem.

Blue Point tools are sourced from many countries including the US, but even at thier price point they can be a bit expensive to all but a pro wrencher as eq. or better tools are out there for a lesser price.

Example: ratcheting tap handle. I bought a Blue Point for around $29. Made by Schroeder in Germany . Schroeder brand is around $22. Now they (factory and truck drivers) source a China made idental unit with just a Blue Point sticker slapped on it as the Blue Point unit and still sell it for $30.

I won't call it bait and switch as the set of taiwan made ratcheting combo wrenches have been awesome for years, but you just have to pay attention anymore as to where the Blue Point tools come from and if not made by Snap-On who the mfgr. is and the COO.

When on sale in the Hot Deals flyer, the Blue Point service sets can be a nice buy (never a bargain), but I am still remiss to ever say that they are eq. to the same tools stamped with the Snap-On logo. I've never seen that to be Snap-On's style to sell the good stuff at rebranded cheaper prices for fear of tarnishing the brand.

Buy what you can affford and good luck.
 
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i should also add that in the fall i will be attending college for diesel technology. i like tools so im getting a headstart. anyways i want to get through school with these then start out prfessionally with them
 

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So then why %^$% reply with more conjecture and false claims???????????????????????

Wow buddy. Not sure what set you off but all I said was I wasn't sure what exactly makes a snap on tool a snap on tool and what makes a blue point tool a blue point tool. Listed a couple examples showing COO didn't really play a part in what tools got what label. Not sure what "false claims" you are refering to but I don't believe I made any false claims. I just added what I knew, just like the other posters did.

Sorry to set you off even though I'm not really sure why you got all pissy. Have a great night.
 

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Bluepoint tools are made by other companies, to meet standards set forth by snap on. Snap on then sells said tools under bluepoint name. The tools can be made anywhere, it depends who is awarded the contract.
The standards set forth by snap on for these tools is generally very high, though if snap on also makes that item the snapon version will almost always be better, but not always enough to justify price difference. I like most all bluepoint stuff, but I own many of their snapon counterparts because it came down to COO for me.
 

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i should also add that in the fall i will be attending college for diesel technology. i like tools so im getting a headstart. anyways i want to get through school with these then start out prfessionally with them

Whoa buddy, I hate to say not to get anything now, but the student discount can be a wonderful thing.....
 
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Whoa buddy, I hate to say not to get anything now, but the student discount can be a wonderful thing.....
i already have it through BOCES but still its really expensive. BTW im trying to give my mom ideas for gifts
 

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i already have it through BOCES but still its really expensive. BTW im trying to give my mom ideas for gifts

Yeah I caught the gift part, I was thinking maybe cash to buy tools at discount for yourself. I dont really like the service set but I know they offer more bang for your buck. I my new theory is buy the best first, because I have lost money to many times when I decided to upgrade later. Usually dont get what you paid for the lesser tool(or anything for that matter). But rest assured that bluepoint set is more than capable
 

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When I bought my overpriced Snap on tool box instead of a less expensive box that would have also done the job, my reasoning was......."what the hell, you only live once."

Go for the Snap on, kid.
 

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I just finished an Auto Tech program and made my "snap on investment" because the discount is too hard to pass up but when it all came I was disappointed in the bluepoint socket and pliers sets. The socket are only chrome coated on the outside and some other coating on the inside, the pliers are all off slightly like there is more material on one side of a needle nose than the other or if you shine the dikes into the light they have a small gap. My suggestion is go for the snap on where you can and if you need something cheap get it as cheap as possible don't over pay just for the name. That being said there are a lot of things you only can get blue point and in that case they are usually much higher quality than their downgraded snap on pieces they sell for a lower class market. It's all tool truck replaceable at the end of the day..
 

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Wrong and wrong again.

I'm not sure what the real deal is with the difference between them. There are a BUNCH of US made blue point tools. I heard once that blue point was tools snap on sells but doesn't make themselves, rebranded tools. But someone on here the other day said that wasn't true. For hardline tools like sockets and wrenches I believe all blue point are made overseas and snap on made here. But snap on sells allen wrenches made in spain under the snap on name. They also sell things like this battery wrench made in the US under the blue point name, http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item...roup_ID=675575&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog. So I don't know the real answer but from what I have seen it has nothing to do with COO. Most blue point tools are rebranded from other manufacturers so they aren't all made by the same people either.

I'm just a littleconfused-why did you feel the need to say that 2 people were wrong, and then write a whole paragraph about what you had heard, what someone had said, and then admit that you really don;t know either?
:dunno:
 
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Agreed. I'm building the majority of my socket sets from the Williams USA line

By chance, do you have a model number for their SAE 3/8" deep well socket set? I need a 6pt deep well socket set, and have been considering a set of Snap On, but would certainly like to try a set of the Williams.
 

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By chance, do you have a model number for their SAE 3/8" deep well socket set? I need a 6pt deep well socket set, and have been considering a set of Snap On, but would certainly like to try a set of the Williams.

WSBD-13HRC - 13 Piece Deep SAE set (1/4-1") $44.46 through MROCenter (as I've said before, they can take a LONG time to ship, but best damn price available).

Same as Snap-On, just WAY cheaper. Once you buy a set, you won't go back to paying Snap-On prices.
 
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WSBD-13HRC - 13 Piece Deep SAE set (1/4-1") $44.46 through MROCenter (as I've said before, they can take a LONG time to ship, but best damn price available).

Thanks, I'll have to check eBay!
 

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WSBD-13HRC - 13 Piece Deep SAE set (1/4-1") $44.46 through MROCenter (as I've said before, they can take a LONG time to ship, but best damn price available).

Same as Snap-On, just WAY cheaper. Once you buy a set, you won't go back to paying Snap-On prices.

How long is LONG? Their prices are good but if they took long shipping to the continent then they will be ridiculous to get them to Hawaii.
 

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Well i guess ill offer up a different opinion. When it comes to the screwdrivers, if i had to do it all over again, i would have bought an el cheapo set that has alot of different screwdrivers. Reason being i bought the nice screwdriver set in school amd didnt really appreciate how nice they were so i lost them, used them as prybars, shorted terminals with them. When i finally got out of school ibhad very few left and i ended up just buying a cheap set anyways

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I'm just a littleconfused-why did you feel the need to say that 2 people were wrong, and then write a whole paragraph about what you had heard, what someone had said, and then admit that you really don;t know either?
:dunno:

My wrong and wrong again comment wasn't meant to come across as an ***. I did list examples of how coo isn't the only thing that decides. Also pointed out that their are snap on tools that snap on doesn't make.

What doesn't make sense to me is at least I contributed what I knew, even if it wasn't much, about the OPs question while your post offered no information at all related to the OPs question.
 

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Jumping into a fight late is a sure way to get hurt.

However, for the good of the order, when Blue Point comes up for discussion, it always has to be defined as to date of production.

The early Blue Point wrenches are the same wrenches which became Snap-on. Made in the same factory from the same dies. Only the stamp on the shank changed. I've got both; a set of the pre-'47 Blue Point combinations and a set of '70s Snap-on. Without looking at which one I'm using, I'd never know the difference.

There was never a sharp cut-off date as to when Snap-on then began to offer two lines of the same tool; one USA and another labeled Blue Point made offshore. It was a gradual shift.

And no, I'd never pay Snap-on truck price for today's Blue Point tools.

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That is one example. I NEVER said all blue point tools were US made. I said that COO is not what determines a blue point tool or a snap on tool. I linked to examples also, did you look at those before making your post? All I said was that there are many US made blue point tools, also there are snap on tools not made in the US like the T handle allen wrenches that are made in spain. But thanks for your links to those blue point tools that didn't prove anything I said wrong.

Point was and still is not all snap on tools are US made and there are blue point tools made in the US. So COO is NOT what seperates what tools get the snap on logo and what tools get the blue point logo.
 

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How long is LONG? Their prices are good but if they took long shipping to the continent then they will be ridiculous to get them to Hawaii.

Basically you order from them, they order from Snap-On, Snap-On ships to them, and they ship to you. Took near a month for them to get my sockets shipped out (they didn't charge me until they shipped), but they arrived quickly after that, and the lady that does their customer service is great.

It's fine if you're in no hurry, but if you need them faster, go through ZTSupply on Ebay. They communicate great, will work with you on shipping cost for combined orders, and ship fast. My favorite seller on ebay.

They have the 9pc Williams USA Deep SAE set here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-USA-JH-...139?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a75b8b3fb
 

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Basically you order from them, they order from Snap-On, Snap-On ships to them, and they ship to you. Took near a month for them to get my sockets shipped out (they didn't charge me until they shipped), but they arrived quickly after that, and the lady that does their customer service is great.

It's fine if you're in no hurry, but if you need them faster, go through ZTSupply on Ebay. They communicate great, will work with you on shipping cost for combined orders, and ship fast. My favorite seller on ebay.

They have the 9pc Williams USA Deep SAE set here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-USA-JH-...139?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a75b8b3fb

Alright thanks. Im in no hurry so I can wait.
 

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Some modern blue point tools that snap on doesn't have a patent for, so they won't sell as SO, and then some blue point is just cheap junk to get people to buy from there dealers, so if for example a 1/2 standard wrench one blue point, one snap on, the blue point is ****, the SO is good, but then you have say blue point impact locking extensions, they don't have a SO version so that blue point tool is good, hope everyone gets that.
 

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My father handed down a lot of Snap-On tools to me when he retired.I just ordered a JH Williams socket set and I will try to compare then to Snap-On and Blue Point. My father had some blue point tools and his comment was it's not as nice as the Snap-On line but comes pretty close. He did not like the air tool line from Blue Point.

This is the JH Williams set I just ordered and the very 1st set from them.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002O18PLO/?tag=atomicindus08-20
 

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