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Bob,

Sorry to hear about the various family health issues, hope things improve from here.

Congratulations on 55 years of marriage! I sincerely wish you both the both the best for the next 55...!

The bumper reinforcement is looking good, nice work.

Cheers,

Andrew.
 
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please lord let me be like this when I get his age...
JC, my mental clock is a bit like the 2K thing. It goes a little haywire when I reach 18. I turned 18 for the 4th time last year so if I act like a 1-year-old, don't worry, it's normal. My wife is very happy that I'm already out of diap -er-Depends.
Bob,

Sorry to hear about the various family health issues, hope things improve from here.

Congratulations on 55 years of marriage! I sincerely wish you both the both the best for the next 55...!

The bumper reinforcement is looking good, nice work.

Cheers,

Andrew.
Andrew, thanks so much for stopping by. I went through a series of family crises in my 20s that tempered me. When I suggest living your dreams now because tomorrow may be too late, most people (my children included) pat me on the head and say comforting things. If your dream is to have a lot of stuff and a lot of money, that's OK but we also have those little dreams that don't cost a lot of time or money (like a hill climb competition in an old Corvette?). My son-in-law finally gets it but what a terrible price he's paid.

After 55 years, my wife and I don't talk much. She starts the sentence, I finish it and we both laugh. Rarely happens more than five times a day -- a look says a lot and requires no talking. Main conversation takes place in the afternoon: [me] "What would you like for dinner?" [she] "I don't know, what do we have?" [me] "Pork, chicken, steak, breaded fish, plain fish, breaded shrimp, plain shrimp, scallops, chicken pot pie and frozen pizza." [she] "I'd like a toasted cheese sandwich." [me] "OK, I'll make some bean soup from scratch." [she] "But I didn't want you to have to cook!"

I figure I can milk the bumper reinforcement for another 6 months or so. Looks like I sprayed weed killer on the plastic cover so I'll be backtracking a little...:bounce:
There, Bob, is a compliment.

Unless he's older than you?:willy_nil
Andy, I certainly took it as one. I was unaware anyone was older than me (or younger, for that matter -- I will turn one later this year). It's such a wonderful surprise when I wake up each day.
 

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"My honey-dos go directly to the top of the list. Doesn't mean they get done, it means they are the first ones I procrastinate doing."

HaHa, love it!
Great stuff here, as always, Bob. Sorry I don't get to check in too often.
 

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"My honey-dos go directly to the top of the list. Doesn't mean they get done, it means they are the first ones I procrastinate doing."

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:lol_hitti I can totally relate to that Ric.




Bob, are the "bumper brackets" replacing an original part or a modification to beef it up a bit?
(My apologies if it's already been explained - which it probably has been. :eyecrazy:).
 

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LMFAO, My wife and I complete each other's sentences and I get the look too. I say "hey honey check this out" she say "what is it?" I say " Craigslist ad" she always say "it better not be another F@CKING toolbox" and this includes the stink eye.
 

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Guys, my wife finishes all our sentences with "No". So i ask the correct question now, "Do you think i should pay full price for these wheels?, she replies with the standard "No", so i haggle the price down a bit and then i buy them!
But to be fair.....i answer her questions with a standard remark also, "Yes dear", so it works out even i suppose.
 

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Guys, my wife finishes all our sentences with "No". So i ask the correct question now, "Do you think i should pay full price for these wheels?, she replies with the standard "No", so i haggle the price down a bit and then i buy them!
But to be fair.....i answer her questions with a standard remark also, "Yes dear", so it works out even i suppose.



LOL, my mother said to learn theses two phrases. Yes dear No dear.
 

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Guys, my wife finishes all our sentences with "No". So i ask the correct question now, "Do you think i should pay full price for these wheels?, she replies with the standard "No", so i haggle the price down a bit and then i buy them!
But to be fair.....i answer her questions with a standard remark also, "Yes dear", so it works out even i suppose.

My uncle felt he could get the price down a little lower on a car. Told the salesman he had to call his wife to make sure it was ok. When he got her on the line she told him he woke her up and was a little loud about it. Salesman could only hear her bitching. Uncle told him he could take his price or he had to walk. Drove away with the car.
 

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I used to have employees come in with a question. Often I knew exactly what they wanted. I enjoyed stating "The answer is NO!, now, word your question carefully." Some people could never figure out how to ask a question that "no" was the answer. "Do you mind if I leave early?"
 

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I used to have employees come in with a question. Often I knew exactly what they wanted. I enjoyed stating "The answer is NO!, now, word your question carefully." Some people could never figure out how to ask a question that "no" was the answer. "Do you mind if I leave early?"

Andy: On a day like today that would not have been an issue (rainy). Yesterday or tomorrow when it is beautiful, I would ask if I needed to work past lunch.
 

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I married very young and trained her well a term she hates. lol my answer to every question is I got it

I have 6 days to go to see if we make it 41 years
 

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Andrew, thanks so much for stopping by. I went through a series of family crises in my 20s that tempered me. When I suggest living your dreams now because tomorrow may be too late, most people (my children included) pat me on the head and say comforting things. If your dream is to have a lot of stuff and a lot of money, that's OK but we also have those little dreams that don't cost a lot of time or money (like a hill climb competition in an old Corvette?). My son-in-law finally gets it but what a terrible price he's paid.

After 55 years, my wife and I don't talk much. She starts the sentence, I finish it and we both laugh. Rarely happens more than five times a day -- a look says a lot and requires no talking. Main conversation takes place in the afternoon: [me] "What would you like for dinner?" [she] "I don't know, what do we have?" [me] "Pork, chicken, steak, breaded fish, plain fish, breaded shrimp, plain shrimp, scallops, chicken pot pie and frozen pizza." [she] "I'd like a toasted cheese sandwich." [me] "OK, I'll make some bean soup from scratch." [she] "But I didn't want you to have to cook!"

I figure I can milk the bumper reinforcement for another 6 months or so. Looks like I sprayed weed killer on the plastic cover so I'll be backtracking a little...:bounce:

Bob,

You probably would gather from my thread that I take a similar outlook - though balancing the short term dreams/goals against the longer term ones takes some juggling and can be hard to judge. I lost a couple of close friends to unexpected accidents in my late teens and early 20s, and always try to keep it in mind - if the worst should happen tomorrow, then all the scrimping and saving and slaving away extra hours at work that I could possibly have done would be for nothing. On the other hand, I don't want to be unhappy and destitute if I do live to be 100 either! If I die tomorrow, I don't want to have any major regret about anything in my life up to that point. And if I do die tomorrow, I don't think I will.

I often find it hard to relate when people tell me that they wish they could own a certain car, or some other similar wish, and it's often not that expensive a dream, and well within their financial ability. When I point this out and ask why they don't just do it, I invariably get told something like "it's not practical", or "I can't justify it", or "Maybe one day". Of course it's not practical! Life isn't practical, and you only get one shot at it, and you'll never know how long you've got until it's gone.

...sorry, got a bit carried away there. But what you said resonated with me.
 

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Great outlook Metal, it is tough for me to balance my wants and dreams with my obligations. Tomorrow is never a guarantee but in 5, 10, or 50 years I don't want to look back and think I should have saved more for retirement or conversely actually taken that trip with my family to save a few bucks.
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- if the worst should happen tomorrow, then all the scrimping and saving and slaving away extra hours at work that I could possibly have done would be for nothing. On the other hand, I don't want to be unhappy and destitute if I do live to be 100 either! If I die tomorrow, I don't want to have any major regret about anything in my life up to that point. And if I do die tomorrow, I don't think I will.

I often find it hard to relate when people tell me that they wish they could own a certain car, or some other similar wish, and it's often not that expensive a dream, and well within their financial ability. When I point this out and ask why they don't just do it, I invariably get told something like "it's not practical", or "I can't justify it", or "Maybe one day". Of course it's not practical! Life isn't practical, and you only get one shot at it, and you'll never know how long you've got until it's gone.

...sorry, got a bit carried away there. But what you said resonated with me.

Andrew

I can relate to that (as I'm sure Bob can)- and every day (Ok - well maybe every weekend) since then I've been doing as much as I can to really, REALLY enjoy the good stuff! (And with a really nice car in the garage to enjoy it in too!)

Lyndon
I came oh so close (holding fingers very close together) :eyecrazy: :lol_hitti :beer: :thumbup:
 

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But to be fair.....i answer her questions with a standard remark also, "Yes dear", so it works out even i suppose.

LOL, my mother said to learn theses two phrases. Yes dear No dear.

Bob

I told Irene, at our wedding reception, that if she were to ever hear me say "Yes Dear", then she were to assume that whatever she said - I didn't hear.......

Seems to have worked (and I have the scars to prove it!).

Lyndon
Yes, I am trying to catch up! :rolleyes: :hellobye:
 
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"My honey-dos go directly to the top of the list. Doesn't mean they get done, it means they are the first ones I procrastinate doing."

HaHa, love it!
Great stuff here, as always, Bob. Sorry I don't get to check in too often.
Ric, it's wonderful of you to take the time from your busy life to post here. Even when you don't post, I think of you often and check in on what you're doing whenever your thread pops up.
Says it all really Bob. It sounds like we are in the same boat..;)
Steve, it feels like it's a leaky one some days.
Steve forgot to finish the sentence. "It sounds like we are in the same boat" , where sinking fast and land is out of swimming range.

Nice job on the PT curb deflector by the way.:beer:
Ah Dan, I see we recognize the situation and are laughing all the way to the bottom. Thanks for the compliment -- I expect it to turn into a hurry-up project any day.
:lol_hitti I can totally relate to that Ric.




Bob, are the "bumper brackets" replacing an original part or a modification to beef it up a bit?
(My apologies if it's already been explained - which it probably has been. :eyecrazy:).
Hi Mark, that "bumper bracket" is my personal attempt to solve two problems. 1) The plastic bumper cover on the PT Cruiser is screwed to a flimsy sheet metal bracket below the intercooler and can be torn loose with very little force. 2) I lowered the car, guaranteeing that the 1-inch air dam on the bottom of the cover will bend enough to slide over a parking block or curb, flip back down and then hold on tight when you try to back off the curb.
Yeah, Dan did nail it!
LMFAO, My wife and I complete each other's sentences and I get the look too. I say "hey honey check this out" she say "what is it?" I say " Craigslist ad" she always say "it better not be another F@CKING toolbox" and this includes the stink eye.
Gerard, I don't recall any conversation with my wife starting with "hey honey check this out" but it's possible that happened 54+ years ago. I already know the subsequent question or answer (and it doesn't matter what it is that I show her):

  • Q: "Don't you already have one of those?..."
  • A: "You don't need that..."
Guys, my wife finishes all our sentences with "No". So i ask the correct question now, "Do you think i should pay full price for these wheels?, she replies with the standard "No", so i haggle the price down a bit and then i buy them!
But to be fair.....i answer her questions with a standard remark also, "Yes dear", so it works out even i suppose.
Terrick, you know you can get in real trouble with that "Yes dear" response. Then again, maybe your wife has never said "Does this make me look fat?" or "Did you have *** with her?"
LOL, my mother said to learn theses two phrases. Yes dear No dear.
Gerard, no one ever told me to do that but I learned to mumble the first word and emphasize the "...Dear."
My uncle felt he could get the price down a little lower on a car. Told the salesman he had to call his wife to make sure it was ok. When he got her on the line she told him he woke her up and was a little loud about it. Salesman could only hear her bitching. Uncle told him he could take his price or he had to walk. Drove away with the car.
Kenny, that's a wonderful idea. I never thought to just use the phone. I used to bring my wife along. Have you ever seen a used car salesman cry?
:lol_hitti:lol_hitti

I used to have employees come in with a question. Often I knew exactly what they wanted. I enjoyed stating "The answer is NO!, now, word your question carefully." Some people could never figure out how to ask a question that "no" was the answer. "Do you mind if I leave early?"
Andy, I'm guessing your management career started before "Personnel" became "Human Resources."
Andy: On a day like today that would not have been an issue (rainy). Yesterday or tomorrow when it is beautiful, I would ask if I needed to work past lunch.
Kenny, try "Is a month too long to mourn the death of my goldfish?"
And I would reply "why would things change today?"
Andy, I would reply that dead goldfish smell bad very quickly.
I married very young and trained her well a term she hates. lol my answer to every question is I got it

I have 6 days to go to see if we make it 41 years
JC, I would bet your bride just smiles when you have horrible stomach cramps and says "I thought you loved almonds."
This is true Andy. But it was a cold rain today.
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Bob,

You probably would gather from my thread that I take a similar outlook - though balancing the short term dreams/goals against the longer term ones takes some juggling and can be hard to judge. I lost a couple of close friends to unexpected accidents in my late teens and early 20s, and always try to keep it in mind - if the worst should happen tomorrow, then all the scrimping and saving and slaving away extra hours at work that I could possibly have done would be for nothing. On the other hand, I don't want to be unhappy and destitute if I do live to be 100 either! If I die tomorrow, I don't want to have any major regret about anything in my life up to that point. And if I do die tomorrow, I don't think I will.

I often find it hard to relate when people tell me that they wish they could own a certain car, or some other similar wish, and it's often not that expensive a dream, and well within their financial ability. When I point this out and ask why they don't just do it, I invariably get told something like "it's not practical", or "I can't justify it", or "Maybe one day". Of course it's not practical! Life isn't practical, and you only get one shot at it, and you'll never know how long you've got until it's gone.

...sorry, got a bit carried away there. But what you said resonated with me.
Andrew, it's all a question of balance.
^^Andrew, that's a lot of wisdom coming from a young man. Well done and said.:thumbup:
Dan, I agree! :thumbup:
Great outlook Metal, it is tough for me to balance my wants and dreams with my obligations. Tomorrow is never a guarantee but in 5, 10, or 50 years I don't want to look back and think I should have saved more for retirement or conversely actually taken that trip with my family to save a few bucks.
JB
JB, in my 20s and 30s I invested 10% of my salary for the future. In my 40s I bumped it up to 20%. I saved money to pay cash for a car rather than finance it. Once I had what I thought was a reasonable amount saved, I would write a check for that amount and bring it with me (no checkbook). Made for easier negotiations ("I can make this payable to your dealership or another -- it's up to you."). I also added principal payments to the mortgage so the house was paid for when I was 45. We didn't live as well as some of my friends but when I retired at 50 with a pension, they were looking at another decade or two paying for their much better 'stuff.' Coach class flights and an inner stateroom can make a Mediterranean cruise vacation somewhat affordable (climbing Gibraltar when I was 40 was a lot more fun than it would be now).
Andrew

I can relate to that (as I'm sure Bob can)- and every day (Ok - well maybe every weekend) since then I've been doing as much as I can to really, REALLY enjoy the good stuff! (And with a really nice car in the garage to enjoy it in too!)

Lyndon
I came oh so close (holding fingers very close together) :eyecrazy: :lol_hitti :beer: :thumbup:
Lyndon, the unplanned life crisis can make you or break you. And you, sir are a made man (not to mention an ***).
Bob

I told Irene, at our wedding reception, that if she were to ever hear me say "Yes Dear", then she were to assume that whatever she said - I didn't hear.......

Seems to have worked (and I have the scars to prove it!).

Lyndon
Yes, I am trying to catch up! :rolleyes: :hellobye:
Lyndon, I hope the floggings have not left deep scars. Oh, I was assuming Irene follows the "Floggings will continue until morale improves!" school, of husbandry.

Yes Dear! :bitchslap
 

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Bob: "Andy, I'm guessing your management career started before "Personnel" became "Human Resources."

You are spot on there. However my management career ended after it became Human Resources.:willy_nil

My intention was to never offend an employee unless they truly needed to be offended. Sometimes I overestimated the capabilities of the employee.

I did have two guys feuding one time (refinery workers). When I brought them in for counseling they refused to look at each other. I told them to shake hands or they would have to hug or take three days off without pay. They shook hands. Next step (since they had been trying to get each other in trouble) was that I instructed them that whatever happened to one happened to the other. If one got time off, the other would get the same punishment. They became friends.

The workplace is so much like kindergarten.
 

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Bob,
When I point this out and ask why they don't just do it, I invariably get told something like "it's not practical", or "I can't justify it", or "Maybe one day". Of course it's not practical! Life isn't practical, and you only get one shot at it, and you'll never know how long you've got until it's gone.

Oh boy can i relate to this one... I ask my work mates who always wanted SS commodores and settle for a V6, (and surprisingly there are quite a few) "why didn't you get the V8?" to which the reply is always "its too expensive on insurance, or its too thirsty on fuel"

I tell them.. When i bought my S15 Silvia at 21, i paid $5500 per year to insure the dam thing.... i didn't like it, i couldn't really afford it, but i grit my teeth, set up monthly payment plan with the insurance company and just did it.

The smiles per hour i get driving the car are priceless...

Rudi.
 

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Bob, please don't tell me you still have the 43 odd install disks for lotus smartsuite tucked away there somewhere...

Man, you have just given me some flashbacks opening the damn cellophane wrappers doing installs many years ago.

GB
 

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Bob, and others, I have to at least weigh in on your comment about climbing Gibraltar at 40; instead of now. I, like most of you I am sure, struggled to raise a family. At 35, I read Wayne Dyers book The Sky is The Limit. His is the first reference I have ever seen to a bucket list, long before the movie was made. I decided then and there to take Wayne's advice; make a list of the top ten things I would like to do before I died (no at 35 *** wasn't part of all of them.) My first choice was sky diving. Other insane things followed; like climbing the Grand Teton, diving the Great Barrier Reef, hang gliding, jumping the Skippers Canyon bridge on a bungee cord, flying a stunt flight in an open biplane, spending fat Tuesday on Bourbon street during Marti Gras, white water rafting on a class five river, getting my black belt in Okinawan style karate and going back to finish college. I completed nine items on that list by the time I was 41. The last one took four more years. I got my degree at 45. I was then ready for marriage a second time. Old habits are hard to break. I still keep some buffer between us and eating dog food, but I am certainly glad that I don't have to try and make a 15,000 foot technical climb at 67 (although learning to walk with nine deck screws and a plate in my ankle was also challenging.) always remember; The sky is not the limit ...you are!
 
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Bob: "Andy, I'm guessing your management career started before "Personnel" became "Human Resources."

You are spot on there. However my management career ended after it became Human Resources.:willy_nil

My intention was to never offend an employee unless they truly needed to be offended. Sometimes I overestimated the capabilities of the employee.

I did have two guys feuding one time (refinery workers). When I brought them in for counseling they refused to look at each other. I told them to shake hands or they would have to hug or take three days off without pay. They shook hands. Next step (since they had been trying to get each other in trouble) was that I instructed them that whatever happened to one happened to the other. If one got time off, the other would get the same punishment. They became friends.

The workplace is so much like kindergarten.
Andy, I treated the people who worked in my organizations with respect and often supported projects we "had no business doing." The response was pre-kindergarden caliber and none of the groups that opposed our work was potty-trained. They threw feces all over our work multiple times a day and then swore it wasn't theirs.
Oh boy can i relate to this one... I ask my work mates who always wanted SS commodores and settle for a V6, (and surprisingly there are quite a few) "why didn't you get the V8?" to which the reply is always "its too expensive on insurance, or its too thirsty on fuel"

I tell them.. When i bought my S15 Silvia at 21, i paid $5500 per year to insure the dam thing.... i didn't like it, i couldn't really afford it, but i grit my teeth, set up monthly payment plan with the insurance company and just did it.

The smiles per hour i get driving the car are priceless...

Rudi.
Rudi, a fair number of people gave me grief for buying a new 1968 Pontiac GTO (400ci 350hp 430 lb ft) for a family car when I was 23 (base price $3,101). The salesman suggested my wife would prefer a LeMans with a smaller engine (base price $2,786), saving 10% on the price of the car. By the time you upgraded the LeMans with a smaller V8, bucket seats & console, automatic transmission and power steering, the GTO was less than the LeMans. We did have to pay $500 a year insurance for two years but that dropped to $180 when I turned 25. At the time I was squandering my $135 a week salary on a wife, two children and a 30-year mortgage. No bank would give me a car loan on a VW Beetle, let alone a GTO. Had to sell some stock to buy it but the grin stayed on my face until the day I sold the Goat when it was 9.
Bob, please don't tell me you still have the 43 odd install disks for lotus smartsuite tucked away there somewhere...

Man, you have just given me some flashbacks opening the damn cellophane wrappers doing installs many years ago.

GB
Rod, I can't believe you would think that I kept them all these years. I threw them out in 2015 (maybe it was 2016 :eek: ). But I did keep the CD. :bounce:
Bob, and others, I have to at least weigh in on your comment about climbing Gibraltar at 40; instead of now. I, like most of you I am sure, struggled to raise a family. At 35, I read Wayne Dyers book The Sky is The Limit. His is the first reference I have ever seen to a bucket list, long before the movie was made. I decided then and there to take Wayne's advice; make a list of the top ten things I would like to do before I died (no at 35 *** wasn't part of all of them.) My first choice was sky diving. Other insane things followed; like climbing the Grand Teton, diving the Great Barrier Reef, hang gliding, jumping the Skippers Canyon bridge on a bungee cord, flying a stunt flight in an open biplane, spending fat Tuesday on Bourbon street during Marti Gras, white water rafting on a class five river, getting my black belt in Okinawan style karate and going back to finish college. I completed nine items on that list by the time I was 41. The last one took four more years. I got my degree at 45. I was then ready for marriage a second time. Old habits are hard to break. I still keep some buffer between us and eating dog food, but I am certainly glad that I don't have to try and make a 15,000 foot technical climb at 67 (although learning to walk with nine deck screws and a plate in my ankle was also challenging.) always remember; The sky is not the limit ...you are!
Bobby, that's absolutely wonderful! Fortunately I didn't know about the bucket list early on but as opportunities presented themselves, I saw enough of the world and did things that have imprinted memories that have faded very little. We do share the Teton experience, Great Barrier Reef dive, and Bourbon Street (missed Mardi Gras by a couple of months), although I passed on anything that involved falling, feeling my shallow dive under a train filled that adrenaline gap just fine. I stayed married and got my degree when I was 33 but it sounds like we took similar roads less traveled.

I hope to avoid the ever-popular ankle hardware episode for as long as possible.
 

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Bob: While I always try to treat everyone with respect, with some people it is so hard I fail.

You can't get good work out of people by trying to compete with them. Or belittling them thinking it makes you look better.

I've got the set of floppys for Excel 3.0 if anyone needs to reboot it.

Yes, of course, I have floppy drive with a USB port.
 
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Wife was walking the Manse last Sunday and as usual found a little repair for me. One of our clueless Florida drivers drifted off the road, crossed the bicycle path and gave my mailbox a love-tap. I was disappointed there were no outside mirror parts in the swale but I have high hopes they have a gouge in the plastic, scratch in the paint or the mirror is dangling from its wires.

The good news is my mailbox is the cheapest, flimsiest one you can buy. I expect to have to replace it fairly regularly so I no longer make an investment. The post holding it up is a salvaged 6-foot piece from a rotted 8-foot fence post. It is sunk in sandy soil and was able to rotate enough that it only sprung the diagonal brace -- a little tightening of two new 4" screws did the job of straightening it.
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The door is bent but a few taps and some gentle pushing and burnishing and it looks like a mailbox that has been delivered in a cardboard box by one of those trucks. The most significant damage was to the pine shelf board that the mailbox attaches to. It split down the middle.
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I could have glued the two pieces back together but I thought it would be faster to find another board in my collection of scrap wood. I was right -- kind of. I found a piece of shelving that would do the job but it was on the bottom of the pile. There were several pieces above it that were close but either too narrow or too short. Of course the piece wasn't exactly 18.5" by 6.25" so I had to cross-cut it on the radial arm saw (always ready to go), pull out the table saw, install the guard and fence and rip the board. Put away the table saw and brought my handiwork up to the garage.
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I don't have any further pictures of the repair. I mounted the board on the post and brace, screwed three screws into the board through the holes in the mailbox and rushed to finish the fourth screw so I could go get the camera.

I know I should drill pilot holes in the soft pine but forgot to bring a bit with me. I did remember that the board-to-post screws were phillips and the box-to-board screws were torx so I was patting myself on the back for remembering that... when the new board split as the fourth screw spun free. That "could have glued the [old] board back together" thought is really irritating me...:argue: because I now have to glue the split 'new' board.

I have no pictures of me removing the box, removing the board, finding the Gorilla glue, spreading the split, filling it with glue, nailing it together and clamping the board. I also have no pictures of me getting up the next morning, scraping the excess glue off the board. screwing the board back on the post (and brace) and drilling a pilot hole for the fourth screw.
 
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Bob: While I always try to treat everyone with respect, with some people it is so hard I fail.

You can't get good work out of people by trying to compete with them. Or belittling them thinking it makes you look better.

I've got the set of floppys for Excel 3.0 if anyone needs to reboot it.

Yes, of course, I have floppy drive with a USB port.
Andy, you are so right! I tried not to tell anyone their idea was stupid. I found it more valuable invest a little time and let them figure that out themselves.

I have a complete set of disks for RoboHelp but I am seriously thinking of tossing them. I too have a USB-cabled 3.5-inch floppy drive. And two of my systems still have Iomega Zip drives in them (the Jazz drives are in the closet).

I also have a 5.25-inch floppy drive but I no longer have an IDE compatible motherboard to plug it into.

So from this I gather that my DOS 4.0, Windows 3.0 (and 3.1) and OS/2 2.0 diskettes aren't increasing in value. :spit:
 

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Andy, you are so right! I tried not to tell anyone their idea was stupid. I found it more valuable invest a little time and let them figure that out themselves.

I have a complete set of disks for RoboHelp but I am seriously thinking of tossing them. I too have a USB-cabled 3.5-inch floppy drive. And two of my systems still have Iomega Zip drives in them (the Jazz drives are in the closet).

I also have a 5.25-inch floppy drive but I no longer have an IDE compatible motherboard to plug it into.

So from this I gather that my DOS 4.0, Windows 3.0 (and 3.1) and OS/2 2.0 diskettes aren't increasing in value. :spit:

I may have misrepresented my original quote as to telling employees the answer is "no", now word you question accordingly. I would only do that with people with whom I at least thought I had a good relationship. In the refinery each craft had their own hard hat color. Management was white. I learned the code for "supervision on site" was "88". First one to see a white hat would say 88 loudly enough for others to hear. I had supervisors under me, and then the foremen, and then the crafts. It pleased me when I walked into the boiler shop (weld shop) and heard "44" passed around.

I still long for Windows 3.1. There's not much I do that it would not handle nicely.

In my area damaged mail boxes come about by vandalism. Not sure what the thrill is, but unless your mailbox is dented, it will be. Didn't look like you were staggering your screws across the grain. I always try (and sometimes fail) to stagger screws and nails both for the board they start in and the one they finish in.

Happy Easter!
 

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The good news is my mailbox is the cheapest, flimsiest one you can buy. I expect to have to replace it fairly regularly so I no longer make an investment.

Once again showing your wisdom Bob :thumbup:

Years ago I designed and fabricated two neat stainless silhouettes of a chopped Model A Tudor Sedan and put them on our cheap black mailbox.

Within a month somebody stole the entire mailbox.. they were nice enough to leave the post. Good folks.. :lol:

I've been wanting to make a 1965 Chevy Sportvan out of a cheap mailbox... It would be easy enough to do, but I figure it will have the same fate as the Tudor Sedan did...
 

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Once again showing your wisdom Bob :thumbup:

Years ago I designed and fabricated two neat stainless silhouettes of a chopped Model A Tudor Sedan and put them on our cheap black mailbox.

Within a month somebody stole the entire mailbox.. they were nice enough to leave the post. Good folks.. :lol:

I've been wanting to make a 1965 Chevy Sportvan out of a cheap mailbox... It would be easy enough to do, but I figure it will have the same fate as the Tudor Sedan did...

Or, make a mail box out of a 1965 Chevy Sportvan.
 
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Bob, sadly mail boxes are a consumable item now a days, its no different out here.

You approach to a repairing rather than replacing it is a good idea..:thumbup:

I hope your Easter is going well.:thumbup:
Steve, I think it's a world-wide phenomenon.

I'm having a quiet and restful Easter.
I may have misrepresented my original quote as to telling employees the answer is "no", now word you question accordingly. I would only do that with people with whom I at least thought I had a good relationship. In the refinery each craft had their own hard hat color. Management was white. I learned the code for "supervision on site" was "88". First one to see a white hat would say 88 loudly enough for others to hear. I had supervisors under me, and then the foremen, and then the crafts. It pleased me when I walked into the boiler shop (weld shop) and heard "44" passed around.

I still long for Windows 3.1. There's not much I do that it would not handle nicely.

In my area damaged mail boxes come about by vandalism. Not sure what the thrill is, but unless your mailbox is dented, it will be. Didn't look like you were staggering your screws across the grain. I always try (and sometimes fail) to stagger screws and nails both for the board they start in and the one they finish in.

Happy Easter!
Andy, I seem to recall my folks calling me half fast.

I'll Windows 3.1 you and raise you an OS/2. I'm thinking one of my spare systems would be just fine with that. Maybe a multi-boot Linux machine....

When the Vandals and Visigoths show up, multiple mailboxes get trashed. This time I'm pretty sure it was one of the old people who come down to visit their parents that did mine in. As to my staggered screws, there are two problems. Concentrating on clocking screws means I forget everything else I know about mangling wood. In addition, I have an inordinate amount of patience but the closer I get to finishing something, the git-er-done thing takes complete control and things go wrong real fast.
Once again showing your wisdom Bob :thumbup:

Years ago I designed and fabricated two neat stainless silhouettes of a chopped Model A Tudor Sedan and put them on our cheap black mailbox.

Within a month somebody stole the entire mailbox.. they were nice enough to leave the post. Good folks.. :lol:

I've been wanting to make a 1965 Chevy Sportvan out of a cheap mailbox... It would be easy enough to do, but I figure it will have the same fate as the Tudor Sedan did...
John, I often admired the steam engines, animals and other creative beautification made to mailboxes and about the time I take a tool out to start, someone whacks the $8 box out front. It never occurred to me they would steal it but I must be too naive and trusting....
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Then again, it might be my tiny little handgun.
Or, make a mail box out of a 1965 Chevy Sportvan.
Andy, my neighbor stacked cinderblocks and filled them with concrete, installed a little cement house on top with the standard metal mailbox inside. Even put ceramic tile on the outside of the column. I have to assume the perpetrators had a large lifted truck but they knocked it over.

It doesn't upset me anymore -- just part of life. Gotta remember pilot holes... gotta remember staggered screws... gotta remember clocking the hidden screws... gotta remember torx screws to foil the thieves... gotta remember pilot holes. OK, I'm fine.
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Bob: "Andy, I treated the people who worked in my organizations with respect and often supported projects we "had no business doing." The response was pre-kindergarden caliber and none of the groups that opposed our work was potty-trained. They threw feces all over our work multiple times a day and then swore it wasn't theirs. "

While I had a good laugh at this, I kept thinking about it. Are you saying that at a large successful concern like IBM there were groups "that opposed our work"? I'm having trouble grasping that everyone was not working harmoniously together for the mutual benefit of the shareholders. I was just certain that only the companies I worked for had people who seemed to have no concern for the success of the company, only for their own career. I'm devastated...:lol_hitti:lol_hitti:lol_hitti :willy_nil:willy_nil:willy_nil
 
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Bob: "Andy, I treated the people who worked in my organizations with respect and often supported projects we "had no business doing." The response was pre-kindergarden caliber and none of the groups that opposed our work was potty-trained. They threw feces all over our work multiple times a day and then swore it wasn't theirs. "

While I had a good laugh at this, I kept thinking about it. Are you saying that at a large successful concern like IBM there were groups "that opposed our work"? I'm having trouble grasping that everyone was not working harmoniously together for the mutual benefit of the shareholders. I was just certain that only the companies I worked for had people who seemed to have no concern for the success of the company, only for their own career. I'm devastated...:lol_hitti:lol_hitti:lol_hitti :willy_nil:willy_nil:willy_nil
Thus I retired and sold all but one share of my stock (I wanted them to have to mail me stuff).
 
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