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Between 485 & 705 SQ/FT Bob Heine's Auto Emporium

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Took a step back on the siding. Rather than cut a huge piece out of the panel on the right side of the door I chose to put an almost full sheet there to finish off the front of the workshop. From the piece left over from the left side panel I cut a small filler panel. When I installed the filler panel I noticed a problem. I wouldn't be able to notch the back of the panel to overlay the piece to the left.
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I cut another filler panel and cut both sides so there would be material to work with. Notched one edge with the underlay and failed to tighten the guide so I have a reminder notch. Used the hand plane to bevel the face to match the other notches in the panel.

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Flipped the filler panel over and notched the overlay. My notch wasn't perfect but instead of using the router to clean it up, I got out the mini-plane set. Beveled the edge of that side as well, using the larger hand plane.

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I will know there are two narrow sections but I don't expect it will ruin anyone else's day. I even caulked the filler panel overlay edges.
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A master finish carpenter told me last week that any time you have a “reminder”, caulk it. Lol


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I don't see that as a reminder notch; I see it as character.


That reminds me, my lovely wife occasionally will help me with a project. Most of that time the project she helps with is painting. She has gotten quite good but still has some small issues painting up to edges and corners. Rather than me going back and touching it up, I leave it. And I smile every time I see one of her little boo-boo's. :) Built in, one of a kind, project character.



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I don't see that as a reminder notch; I see it as character. How many T1-11 panels have that feature?


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I agree with Dan. If anyone asks, tell them it's not T1-11, it's T1-12 and that the T1 people wanted you to do some testing for them.

A master finish carpenter told me last week that any time you have a “reminder”, caulk it. Lol


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That reminds me, my lovely wife occasionally will help me with a project. Most of that time the project she helps with is painting. She has gotten quite good but still has some small issues painting up to edges and corners. Rather than me going back and touching it up, I leave it. And I smile every time I see one of her little boo-boo's. :) Built in, one of a kind, project character.



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Thanks guys. You make me smile and it's one of the reasons I love the Garage Journal -- praise for screw-ups.
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When I built my trailer, it was just a touch under a 1/16" out of square. I was going to fix it, then I remembered the Novas and Mustangs from the early/mid 70's. Ship it. And the trailer has traveled thousands of mile and hauled tens of tons of crushed concrete with no issues. You're good to go, get on with it. In the end, we'll probably be the only ones that will ever know.
 

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Bob: I know if you didn't mention it I (and maybe we) wouldn't have noticed the flaw or creative fix in your siding. that said it looks like you GOT R DONE without having to rip it apart so good for you and check that TO DO off and on to the next one.

yep when you are maybe 6 years old to 13 cash is not easy to come by for most kids so not surprised your grandkids prefer it so they can maybe buy something their parents couldn't or wouldn't.

I hope your Thanksgiving was a great time with that big family of yours and do all of you get together for Christmas too? at the same place or does it rotate from house to house each year?

keep up the great work and remember to stop and rest and smell the roses if you need to (or the palms if roses aren't around). hurricane season about over this year now?
 

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I have one of those reminder notches on the house front door. Mine is because the routerbit was not tight enough. Hard to spot and only I really know it is there. It’s a hidden feature… :lol_hitti

Looks like you are about ready to frame the door and fit the trimmings.

PS. My dad used to look at my stuff-ups and say he's not paying me extra to “personalise” it.
 

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I've got one of those reminders.. When I had my house built 40 years ago, the contractor was getting out of building residential homes. Fortunately, my dad was living on the same property and I'd get a daily report of FUBARS . He called me one night - I was working afternoons - and said that the drywallers were due in the next day, but the framing crew had never framed around the chimney (center of the house, in the living room). This was in January, the house was cold - I had to get studs, get power to the house, set up lights and do the three sided framing to enclose the chimney. Unfortunately, one side of this was an extension of a hallway wall and for what ever reason, I didn't use a chalk line or straight edge in extending the wall. I ended up with a kink at the join. I see it - no one else does. I see it every time I go down the hall - for 40 years..........
 
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On the plus side , if anyone ever steals the siding , it will be easy to identify it !! :)
Greg, before I'm done I expect every panel to be easily identified.
When I built my trailer, it was just a touch under a 1/16" out of square. I was going to fix it, then I remembered the Novas and Mustangs from the early/mid 70's. Ship it. And the trailer has traveled thousands of mile and hauled tens of tons of crushed concrete with no issues. You're good to go, get on with it. In the end, we'll probably be the only ones that will ever know.
Kirk, I'm glad I'm in good company. I remember my brand new Pontiac GTO and Vega GT and I thought it was normal to fit a pinky in the gaps. As I'll show in a minute, this workshop was built by the previous owner and his idea of "good to go" was interesting.

Bob: I know if you didn't mention it I (and maybe we) wouldn't have noticed the flaw or creative fix in your siding. that said it looks like you GOT R DONE without having to rip it apart so good for you and check that TO DO off and on to the next one.

yep when you are maybe 6 years old to 13 cash is not easy to come by for most kids so not surprised your grandkids prefer it so they can maybe buy something their parents couldn't or wouldn't.

I hope your Thanksgiving was a great time with that big family of yours and do all of you get together for Christmas too? at the same place or does it rotate from house to house each year?

keep up the great work and remember to stop and rest and smell the roses if you need to (or the palms if roses aren't around). hurricane season about over this year now?
Drives, I like to share the mistakes along with the takes. This isn't fine woodworking, just repairing the termite mound.

My youngest grandchild just turned 16 and he's as thrilled as the 28-year-old to have cash. At one point I thought of giving them gift cards but then someone gave me one. It's been in my wallet for more than a decade and I'm not sure when I'll ever get to the ****'s Sporting Goods store (it's 8 miles away).

We get together at our son's house with the whole mob four or five times a year and at our daughter's house once or twice a year with just her two children and her father-in-law. Next event will be December 21 at our son's house where we celebrate "The Envelope Please" and try for a group photo. Our daughter-in-law is a nurse and rarely gets more than one holiday off per season.

There are always flowers blooming in our yard and most days start with a walk around the property with the gardener-in-chief. It's when I get most of my important work assignments. Hurricane season officially ended December First. Doesn't mean one couldn't pop up but it's very unlikely.

I have one of those reminder notches on the house front door. Mine is because the routerbit was not tight enough. Hard to spot and only I really know it is there. It’s a hidden feature… :lol_hitti

Looks like you are about ready to frame the door and fit the trimmings.

PS. My dad used to look at my stuff-ups and say he's not paying me extra to “personalise” it.
Eugene, my life is filled with hidden features! Luckily only my closest friends and family point them out.

I'm still working on a door and corner trim plan but for now it's one wall at a time. Need to caulk another seam or two on the front wall but I've moved on to the second side.

When the minimum wage was $1.25 my father paid me $0.33 an hour for my labor. He got a LOT of personalized projects.
I've got one of those reminders.. When I had my house built 40 years ago, the contractor was getting out of building residential homes. Fortunately, my dad was living on the same property and I'd get a daily report of FUBARS . He called me one night - I was working afternoons - and said that the drywallers were due in the next day, but the framing crew had never framed around the chimney (center of the house, in the living room). This was in January, the house was cold - I had to get studs, get power to the house, set up lights and do the three sided framing to enclose the chimney. Unfortunately, one side of this was an extension of a hallway wall and for what ever reason, I didn't use a chalk line or straight edge in extending the wall. I ended up with a kink at the join. I see it - no one else does. I see it every time I go down the hall - for 40 years..........
Scooterbum46, I put that same kink in a wall in our last house. Luckily it was a plaster wall and when I failed completely with the plaster re-do, a retired plasterer fixed my mistakes in two half-day visits. With the drywall failures I invested in a collection of joint putty knives. I believe I can hide a window given enough time, tape and joint compound.
 

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Bob remember the Renaissance artists would deliberately introduce a flaw into each of their works, because "only God is perfect."

You couldn't find a dealer who would sell you a new Vega at a discount? Man, that's sad. I always liked the looks of the Vegas but I was a poor college student, and didn't have any $ to buy a car. One of my friends bought a new 1st year Vega and he got great mileage with it. A short while later, another of our crowd bought a new 1970-1/2 Z28, in a metallic root-beer. With those separate blade front bumpers, and the new Gen 2 body style, I thought it looked more Italian than Detroit. His dad bought a 1970 Torino Cobra Jet at the same time in that red/orange color with the 'laser stripe.' He owned an Indy-car racing team, and also campaigned a sprint car and midgets. The Torino GT was a torquey ride, with a great exhaust sound. Those two cars were good cars to ride 'shotgun,' very-different, but all-business.
 
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Today was reasonably productive. I managed to remove the siding from the South side of the shed. My new prybar got a good workout and it is amazing how well it works. I'm used to flat bars and never noticed how prying sideways is hard on my old bones. The round padded handle on this one is a blessing. That white square in the foreground is the Styrofoam insulation behind the breaker box. Figured it would be better than trying to stuff fiberglass in that 2-inch space.
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I found one of the previous owner's fixes. Because the wall is slightly longer than 12-feet he lined up the third 4-foot panel with the end of the wall and filled the gap with caulk. He also flipped the panels so the two edge lines are next to each other. I plan to have the space at the end of the wall with corner trim hiding it.
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That little Milwaukee circular saw came in handy on the end panel. Two quick cuts and I was able to get to the nails in the middle of the panel. My small HF deadblow hammer comes in handy for holding the panel away from the stud so I can move the prybar further along.
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My body told me not to try to install the new siding (still have quite a few nails to pull) so I finished the day with a piece of housewrap.
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As I finished for the day I realized there was some cutting and bagging of rotten siding to be done before I start hanging the new T1-11.
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Bob remember the Renaissance artists would deliberately introduce a flaw into each of their works, because "only God is perfect."

You couldn't find a dealer who would sell you a new Vega at a discount? Man, that's sad. I always liked the looks of the Vegas but I was a poor college student, and didn't have any $ to buy a car. One of my friends bought a new 1st year Vega and he got great mileage with it. A short while later, another of our crowd bought a new 1970-1/2 Z28, in a metallic root-beer. With those separate blade front bumpers, and the new Gen 2 body style, I thought it looked more Italian than Detroit. His dad bought a 1970 Torino Cobra Jet at the same time in that red/orange color with the 'laser stripe.' He owned an Indy-car racing team, and also campaigned a sprint car and midgets. The Torino GT was a torquey ride, with a great exhaust sound. Those two cars were good cars to ride 'shotgun,' very-different, but all-business.
Philip, unlike the Renaissance artists, I don't have to deliberately introduce flaws -- they appear like magic with everything I do.

I also was a college student in 1970 but at night. During the day I worked full-time for IBM and bought stock through the employee plan. A relatively small (10%) part of my salary invested meant I could afford a new car when the stock went up a decent amount or split. In 1971 the Vega was Motor Trend's Car of the Year and I was pre-ordering a GT. It was the first one delivered to a dealer in the Hudson Valley and the dealers were complaining about the small markup. One of the extras on the early Vega GT was the stainless trim on the wheel openings.
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I loved the second generation Camaros with the RS option (split bumper) especially with the Z/28 package. If they had a bigger trunk we would have bought one. The Vega hatchback was perfect for our two kids and German Shepard (probably should have gone for the wagon).

Until we got into (used) Corvettes in the late '70s we didn't hang out with people wealthy enough to have multiple cool cars. When a L-88 Corvette is your track car, the rest of the stable is ridiculous.
 

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Hey Bob,

That Milwaukee M12 right angle 1/4-inch hex driver looks awesome! I picked up a Milwaukee M12 1/4 impact last year, and a 3/8" right angle electric ratchet shortly after. I've been kicking myself in the *** ever sense. I can't believe how much time these have saved me!

I can't believe how much torque this little impact has!
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This is the electric ratchet:
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These tools have saved me SO much time.

I hope all is well in FL.
 

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Bob you’re moving right along with the siding. Will you paint or stain the siding?
On a side note, your dad and my dad must have gone to the same school of business. My wages were similar when I worked at our Texaco.
 

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Philip, unlike the Renaissance artists, I don't have to deliberately introduce flaws -- they appear like magic with everything I do.

I also was a college student in 1970 but at night. During the day I worked full-time for IBM and bought stock through the employee plan. A relatively small (10%) part of my salary invested meant I could afford a new car when the stock went up a decent amount or split. In 1971 the Vega was Motor Trend's Car of the Year and I was pre-ordering a GT. It was the first one delivered to a dealer in the Hudson Valley and the dealers were complaining about the small markup. One of the extras on the early Vega GT was the stainless trim on the wheel openings.
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I loved the second generation Camaros with the RS option (split bumper) especially with the Z/28 package. If they had a bigger trunk we would have bought one. The Vega hatchback was perfect for our two kids and German Shepard (probably should have gone for the wagon).

Until we got into (used) Corvettes in the late '70s we didn't hang out with people wealthy enough to have multiple cool cars. When a L-88 Corvette is your track car, the rest of the stable is ridiculous.


Bob,
Love how you have so many pictures from your past.
I never took too many pictures until digital became the thing.
I guess that makes me a cheap b@#tard. :bounce:
 
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Hey Bob,

That Milwaukee M12 right angle 1/4-inch hex driver looks awesome! I picked up a Milwaukee M12 1/4 impact last year, and a 3/8" right angle electric ratchet shortly after. I've been kicking myself in the *** ever sense. I can't believe how much time these have saved me!

I can't believe how much torque this little impact has!

This is the electric ratchet:

These tools have saved me SO much time.

I hope all is well in FL.
Kyle, great to have you visit. I have been so impressed with the Milwaukee M12 tools and my collection keeps growing. I even discovered their batteries are better than the knockoffs. When I use a knockoff in the reciprocating saw, the battery backs out but the real Milwaukee batteries don't. Has to be a slight difference in the latch.

Life in Florida is as good as can be expected. Somehow Florida is mentioned in more lead stories in broadcast news and the front page of print news way more often than any of the other 49 states.
Looks like you were busy yesterday, nice job.
Kirk, I have that new pry bar to thank for getting so much done the other day. I paid for it so today was laid back.
Bob you’re moving right along with the siding. Will you paint or stain the siding?
On a side note, your dad and my dad must have gone to the same school of business. My wages were similar when I worked at our Texaco.
Stewart, I'll be painting but it may turn out to be stain if the price is right.
My dad lived through the depression and scoffed at the idea of paying $0.25 to see a movie. If it was his choice, I got penny candy for a treat.

Bob,
Love how you have so many pictures from your past.
I never took too many pictures until digital became the thing.
I guess that makes me a cheap b@#tard. :bounce:
Jon, I suspect the pictures from your past are in a box at your parents (or a sibling's) house. If you're looking for a cheap b@#tard, you should see our wedding pictures. They are both black & white proofs. Who needs 5x7s of that kind of stuff?
 
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That must have come from the "Woodworking 101" thread. :headscrat

John, don’t be sharing my secrets. Lol.


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John and Stewart, I subscribe to a few threads (~500 at the moment) and I'm pretty sure the secrets have already been shared. Just wish I could remember them.
 
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Boy is my thread boring. Another day, another sheet of T1-11 installed.
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I felt like I was making progress but made the mistake of peeking around the next corner. When I get there it will be the half-way point -- for the exterior siding.
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Bob remember the Renaissance artists would deliberately introduce a flaw into each of their works, because "only God is perfect."

You couldn't find a dealer who would sell you a new Vega at a discount? Man, that's sad. I always liked the looks of the Vegas but I was a poor college student, and didn't have any $ to buy a car. One of my friends bought a new 1st year Vega and he got great mileage with it. A short while later, another of our crowd bought a new 1970-1/2 Z28, in a metallic root-beer. With those separate blade front bumpers, and the new Gen 2 body style, I thought it looked more Italian than Detroit. His dad bought a 1970 Torino Cobra Jet at the same time in that red/orange color with the 'laser stripe.' He owned an Indy-car racing team, and also campaigned a sprint car and midgets. The Torino GT was a torquey ride, with a great exhaust sound. Those two cars were good cars to ride 'shotgun,' very-different, but all-business.
driftpin, I bought a new Vega GT in 1974. Sticker was $3052. I got it for 3K cuz I paid cash. Traded it in for a 1976 Nova 9C1 2 door coupe and got $2300 for it-22 autocrosses, over 100 dragstrip passes, 5 rear axles, 4 sets of Saginaw shift forks, 7 clutch discs and 2 cylinder heads. Goodyear replaced tires under road hazard (6 sets) . Was turned back to stock, looking brand new for trade in with all original parts and tires had 400 miles on them. It sold in 3 hours for $2800.
Wish I had both cars today...

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Bob,

For the shed I recently built, I decided to go with the hardie panel for the siding and trim. It's my first time building a shed, and it looked like a good idea considering the heat/dryness we go through here in the desert.

Your shed is looking nice with new sheeting on it btw..
 

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Guy digging my foundation: You doing this all yourself?
Me: Yes. And making a lot of mistakes.
Guy: Difference when you hire people is you pay them to make the mistakes, and you pay them to fix the mistakes.
 

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Originally Posted by Bob Heine
"Boy is my thread boring..."
Is this a trick question? what does it make us following along :lol_hitti:lol_hitti

Reminder notch, thats a new one for me, nah, hide it in the back of the van and do it over, just get it right this time , it's coming outta your wages.
My dad was cheap he employed me :lol: "you'll earn good money when you've finished your apprenticeship" he said, 40 years later i'm still waiting for him to sign my papers.:lol::lol:
He passed three years ago and in truth he was never cheap.:)

Happy xmas:beer:
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driftpin, I bought a new Vega GT in 1974. Sticker was $3052. I got it for 3K cuz I paid cash. Traded it in for a 1976 Nova 9C1 2 door coupe and got $2300 for it-22 autocrosses, over 100 dragstrip passes, 5 rear axles, 4 sets of Saginaw shift forks, 7 clutch discs and 2 cylinder heads. Goodyear replaced tires under road hazard (6 sets) . Was turned back to stock, looking brand new for trade in with all original parts and tires had 400 miles on them. It sold in 3 hours for $2800.
Wish I had both cars today...

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Ric, my Vega GT was the daily driver meant to cut down our gasoline bill (momma drove the GTO a few times a week and I drove it mostly towing the boat). The Vega stayed stock for most of its first year but then got Koni adjustable shocks, BFG radials, ****** headers and Cherry Bomb header muffler along with drilled-out jets on the 2-barrel. It was a lot of fun to drive but the posi rear made me extra cautious driving in snow. Blipping the throttle in first or second or power shifting would get the car sideways real quick on anything but dry pavement. It was a love-hate relationship with paint failures the first three months, head gaskets and rust making for most of the hate.

That police package '76 Nova sounds like an illegal amount of fun.

You say that but all three of us are following along to see what you'll do next. Keep it up Bob, I'm literally on the edge of my chair SMASHING that reload page button just hoping you'll post again !!!
Mike, I recall those snowy winters when weaving eye splices in mooring lines was exciting. I also remember how much of my free(?) time was spent with the kids, who entertained me in so many ways. I'm going to try to find something exciting to post that doesn't involved spilling blood.
Giving away our experience talking about wages under $.50, cars under 5k, lol.

Nice job
on the workshop setting things right!

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Ric, in a way it's sad because we bought the house when our total income was $110 a week and bought the GTO when it had risen to $140.
You, too?!!!

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Bob,

For the shed I recently built, I decided to go with the hardie panel for the siding and trim. It's my first time building a shed, and it looked like a good idea considering the heat/dryness we go through here in the desert.

Your shed is looking nice with new sheeting on it btw..
Kyle, I built a shed at our last home and used T1-11. The siding lasted 18 years and I replaced it with Hardie panels. This shed came with 5/16-inch T1-11 siding and it has lasted 23 years. I wanted to use Hardie again but I remembered how heavy those Hardie panels were (almost 75 pounds). The T1-11 5/8" panels weigh about 58 pounds, which doesn't sound like a lot less but it's a big difference when I'm flipping that stuff around. The real decider, Liane, mentioned that in 23 years we'll be 98 and probably not caring about the shed siding. The Hardie panels are definitely a better solution, especially in termite buffet country.
Great job! I like it :thumbup:
Thank you Vladimir!
Guy digging my foundation: You doing this all yourself?
Me: Yes. And making a lot of mistakes.
Guy: Difference when you hire people is you pay them to make the mistakes, and you pay them to fix the mistakes.
Prospecter, in Florida we pay half up front and then pray the Guy finishes the job. If they are any good at all they finish the job, collect the other half and leave town before the mistakes appear. And trust me, they will appear as if by magic.
How does your elephant taste, Bob?
Kirk, mine is a little under done.
Boring thread? All my thread consist of is sanding the camaro, that's boring.

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Cody, are you telling me you'd like to see my sanding? It's been 36 years so far...
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Then there's the obligatory door on a stand...
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Originally Posted by Bob Heine
"Boy is my thread boring..."
Is this a trick question? what does it make us following along :lol_hitti:lol_hitti

Reminder notch, thats a new one for me, nah, hide it in the back of the van and do it over, just get it right this time , it's coming outta your wages.
My dad was cheap he employed me :lol: "you'll earn good money when you've finished your apprenticeship" he said, 40 years later i'm still waiting for him to sign my papers.:lol::lol:
He passed three years ago and in truth he was never cheap.:)

Happy xmas:beer:
steve
Steve, that makes you guys way too kind.

I learned from my father but I wouldn't call it an apprenticeship. Dad was a teacher and author and his brother was an architect. When dad decided to finish the basement he installed 2x4s exactly 2 inches off the poured concrete wall. When my uncle came to visit I asked him if the wavy wall was OK. He taught about the 3-4-5 triangle and how to use a level and chalk line. Also learned how to replace cut nails with lead anchors. I was 11 and didn't mention the re-do to my father. I didn't get paid cash but Mom bought me a nice 3-piece suit for church and school.
 

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bj383ss

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Bob,

Seeing your Corvette does make me "Feel" better about being on year 8 of my build.

:D

Bret
 

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Bob you have Corvettes? An unpainted car!!! I don’t even have an unpainted car.

After the shed is painted, will work resume on the older Vette?


Shorty Korte
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