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Tomjohn

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This is the body shop and show room for several restored muscle cars at my local Chevy dealer . Two foot of snow and a night of rain was more than the building could support
 

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dsp1

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Same thing happened to my old barn a few years ago.
 

Ben Buck

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Audi's good grief!!

I think, this in my opinion, the sink hole at the Corvette museum might be worse?

Those will buff out? :headscrat
 

dsp1

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Man that makes me sick.

I feel the same way, especially looking at the pic with the steel beams smashed into the cars. Fortunately I didn't have anything too valuable in mine when it collapsed.
 

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Wow! I looked up that building on Google Earth and it has a roof with 21000 SF so, with a mild 20 pound snow load, it would have weighed 424,000 pounds. With a night of rain, who knows...maybe double that.
 
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chruler

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Those sheet metal beams just can't take the load. Looks like some nice cars in there. Hope they make it out alright.
 

Dajn

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My god. What kind of cookie cutter buildings are you guys putting up. The only thing that should take down a building is a fire or a strong tornado. Snow on your roof and it caves in? Lol. I know snow gets heavy after a couple feet but there is no excuse for a building collapsing from snow on the roof.
 

bczygan

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A problem for flat roofs is drainage. A roof with curbs and roof drains can quickly get very heavy.

When roof sumps get clogged with snow that turns to ice, and then it rains, the rain has nowhere to go and the roof becomes a swimming pool. This can happen with leaves too.

Water weighs 8 pounds per gallon. 6" of water on a roof weighs 26 pounds per square foot. Add the snow and have an area where drifting produces an extreme point load and you have failure. Codes try to anticipate this, even going into requirements for parts of a building where drifting can occur. But you only need one member to fail, to bring things down.

Another problem can be wind. Wind can create differential forces on a structure, pushing on one part and creating a vacuum on an adjacent part. And wind combined with snow......
 

FunkyfullWidth

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My god. What kind of cookie cutter buildings are you guys putting up. The only thing that should take down a building is a fire or a strong tornado. Snow on your roof and it caves in? Lol. I know snow gets heavy after a couple feet but there is no excuse for a building collapsing from snow on the roof.

You must live in a desert. Snow removal from roofs is a big business. seems gimmicky until you see pictures like that doesn't it. Are you saying your building could withstand almost a half million extra pounds?
 

dfiler2

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Sad part is in a metal building like that there are lot's of signs that there is a problem.The large metal beams will twist a lot before they fail and it gets really noisy inside, lots of extra creaking and snapping sounds. Of course they will probably realize that next time.
 

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Would be interesting to see how well built those metal buildings actually were . . . . .. . . BEFORE the collapse of course !! ;)

Was there anything unusual about that snow storm . . . in Michigan . . right??

Doesn't look like that bad of a storm on exterior of building.

Did it snow a lot of heavy snow, then have freezing rain so the snow acted as a sponge and held a slew of weight on roof???
 

Xporter

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This was a Cadillac Dealership building that collapsed after wind/rain storm here near Orlando a few months ago. Looks like a metal frame building too.
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