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Mr.Nutcase

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Car (Toyota Corolla) has hole by the drivers seat.
I was planning to use Evaprust to prep, then paint with something that will not rust.Then to cover the hole uising fiber glass.
Other ways is to cut, weld, but I dont know how to weld...
So that option is out..
Next problem When I got in accident,
I am planning is cut damaged radiator support, then bolt on piece from the junkyard..
Or use a slide hammer and pull out the damage?
 

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You're on track with the "kill the rust and 'glass it" approach to the hole, and I would see how much you could just pull that other damage back into the correct position. It should be fine.
 

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3m also makes a good epoxy that you could use. Just make sure you get rid of all the bad "rusted" metal.
 

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There are a number of adhesives on the market for "gluing" in sheet metal patches as an alternative to welding. I'd think that would be a much better alternative to fiberglass. You're just creating a new place for moisture/dirt to accumulate with 'glass, in my non-auto body professional opinion.

Check with your local auto body supply.
 

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You're right on with the evaprust and paint. I would pop rivet a galvanized metal patch over the rust hole and seal the bottom with seam sealer to exclude moisture. The radiator support is structural and should be straightened or replaced by welding. Use SS'T rivets if you can get them.
 
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You're right on with the evaprust and paint. I would pop rivet a galvanized metal patch over the rust hole and seal the bottom with seam sealer to exclude moisture. The radiator support is structural and should be straightened or replaced by welding. Use SS'T rivets if you can get them.

Can the Radiator support be bolted on and taken to body shop to have welded>
 
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I would try to pull it as strait as you can before you cut the damaged metal out. This makes it easier to align your new metal before you bolt it in. Then you can take it to a welder to be welded.
 

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If you want to continue to use this car for many years, you have to stop the corrosion process. If this is not done, soon the whole car will have to dispose of.
I think the rusty metal should be cut out and perform remedial welding work.
If you do not have such capabilities, the metal must be completely cleaned of rust to shine.
Then you need to be refined place to cover the jet wash primer, which contains as a component of orthophosphoric acid. Thus, the appearance of rust in the future will be less likely.
But in any case, on top of this coating should definitely apply epoxy to fully protect the damaged area.
Good luck!
 
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3m also makes a good epoxy that you could use. Just make sure you get rid of all the bad "rusted" metal.

Ok,, use grinder?
If you want to continue to use this car for many years, you have to stop the corrosion process. If this is not done, soon the whole car will have to dispose of.
I think the rusty metal should be cut out and perform remedial welding work.
If you do not have such capabilities, the metal must be completely cleaned of rust to shine.
Then you need to be refined place to cover the jet wash primer, which contains as a component of orthophosphoric acid. Thus, the appearance of rust in the future will be less likely.
But in any case, on top of this coating should definitely apply epoxy to fully protect the damaged area.
Good luck!

Is POR 15 good?
 

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Ok,, use grinder?
Grinder would work just fine.

Is POR 15 good?

I have used POR 15 on my 65 Mustang and like ed the results. Eastwood Co. has alot of good products that would help. Including rust encapsulator that would help.
 

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Ok,, use grinder?
Is POR 15 good?
Yes. You need to use any abrasives. It is important that you remove all rust.
I did not use the POR 15. Therefore, it is difficult to draw a conclusion.
But I used another solution, like POR 15.
In this video
all very well shown. But I think that it is actually not quite true. I believe that the POR 15 will solve the problem with rust. But not for long.
Personally, I abandoned the use of simple converters rust. In such converters microcracks metal after drying creates quite a loose environment. And in this case, there is oxygen and atmospheric moisture. And even if you apply coating, the corrosion process will continue. Slowly, but will continue.
Such converters are good in the case when only the rust formed on the metal surface, but has not penetrated deeply.
I think for your case should be:
1. with abrasives to clean the entire surface rust.
2. use Reactive wash primer, which penetrate deep into the cracks and remain there.
3. apply epoxy to block the access of oxygen and moisture from the air.
In this case, you really get the result, that you wanted.
Excuse me, please, for my poor English.
 

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A few photos on the current topic ...
In the case of strong rust I do globally. Cut out and welded new metal.
Those places where there was a small rust cleaned, and covered Wash primer. In the photo it's red.
At one of the photos shows the two-coating (primer and epoxy) from the firm's Body. But not necessarily the Body. May be from other manufacturers.
And the last photo I showed rust converter, which I bought long ago. But do not use. Stored on a shelf without need.
 

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ibedayank

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Car (Toyota Corolla) has hole by the drivers seat.
I was planning to use Evaprust to prep, then paint with something that will not rust.Then to cover the hole uising fiber glass.
Other ways is to cut, weld, but I dont know how to weld...
So that option is out..
Next problem When I got in accident,
I am planning is cut damaged radiator support, then bolt on piece from the junkyard..
Or use a slide hammer and pull out the damage?

do NOT cut it just use a dent puller and hammers to get it as straight as you can
on the yota i have it looks like the front is one piece with fenders and grill bolted on cutting it would weaken and possibly cause you to lose control of it while driving
thans a unibody for you the body IS the FRAME
 
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