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stormking

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Picked up this Bog socket set from the late 20s recently. Need a couple of sockets to complete the set: an 11/16 six point; and a 1/2 six point. These are half inch drive. Sockets have two stars stamped on outside. Any leads would be appreciated.
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Picked up this Bog socket set from the late 20s recently. Need a couple of sockets to complete the set: an 11/16 six point; and a 1/2 six point. These are half inch drive. Sockets have two stars stamped on outside. Any leads would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Roy

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Looks to be in excellent shape for 90 year old set! Don't usually find a 90% complete set in that great of condition. Good luck in your search:beer:
 

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I have 2 11/16 sixpoint that might be Bogs. Can I see a side view of some of yours ?? Mine are plain , with a knurled band and the size marking
 

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i,ve got the same set . missing some pieces, will check when i get home about the end of the month
 
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stormking

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Thanks all will post picture of sockets late tonight. Kid graduating from high school this evening. Oldtoolman what size is the black oxide socket on your site. roy
 

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The Alloy Artifacts website has a nice article about Bog Manufacturing of Chicago and might be useful to you in helping to determine the correct markings to look for in completing your set.
There is a photo of a hex drive set very similar to yours, also named the "Jumbo" set. The article points out that the 'star' markings vary from one piece to another with some having 2 stars on each side of the size marking, some have more, and some have no stars. It looked like all of the ones they have pictured have 'Bog Mfg' or some variation stamped on them along with a date code in many cases.
The article also mentions the fact that Indestro also used star markings, but in their case, only a single star is stamped on either side of the size, with no other markings.
There is a 'contact us' link at the bottom of the article for sending info to Alloy Artifacts about Bog. They might like to have some nice pictures of your set to compare to the hex set they have pictured. Here's the link to the article:
http://home.comcast.net/~alloy-artifacts/bog-mfg-chicago.html#bog-637
 
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Thanks kxxr for the info, tried to take pictures of the sockets but close-up are very blurry and out a little farther you can't see the details. I Should invest in a better camera.
 

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use the pic's from allow artifacts..

I was wondering if the sockets Stormking has with the set he got might be something other than BOG sockets. A set that old has been kicking around for a long time and it is possible that some of the original sockets have been replaced with some other kind. Pictures of what he has might help determine that.
Thanks for the tip though. I use Alloy Artifacts all the time (and your website too :thumbup: ) for research. And, since I have you here, OldToolMan, I'll ask you ... I see a lot of hex drive sockets in my travels that are not marked with any maker. I have seen them made of a material that does not seem to rust, with a knurled band and only 'Made In USA' stamped on them. I have also seen them that look like BOG but don't have any maker stamped on them, with and without stars. Most of those don't appear to be of the quality of the ones that are actually stamped with the BOG name. The BOG sockets look like the good stuff. Do you have any guesses as to who the maker might be on some of these other items? I am headed out to the garage in a bit, and I'll post some pictures in this thread. Stormking can compare them to what he has and maybe you can give me some idea as to what I have. Thanks again, kr.
 
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I have a couple of Bog-marked sockets, so I took photos to help with your research. The first socket is small enough (5/8") that the large stamping on the socket wraps around, requiring four photos to show it all. It starts with two stars on the left side of the markings. The vertical lines to the left of the stars are either damage or stamping tool marks:
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Here it is, rotated now to the right a bit more:
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And still further to the right:
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Last photo at the extreme right edge of the markings on this socket. Note that there were two stars at the left edge, and only one star at the right edge.
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Last photo is of a double-ended spark plug socket, also marked "Bog Mfg Company" but with no stars present. The two sizes are 29/32" and 1-1/32". This helps us date this spark plug socket to the mid 1930's and older. Again, no stars stamped into this socket anywhere.
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Thanks Lump, the sockets are just like those but black. All of the sockets are marked bog except the replacements. Need the 11/16 and the 1/2 six point. Bog tools seem to be of very high quality. I will look at Oldtoolman's website again. Thanks again for everyone's help. roy
 

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Lump, are both of those square drive also? I didn't get to taking the photos last night but will shoot for today, stay tuned. I think all of the Bogs I have are hex drive.
 

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Lump, are both of those square drive also? I didn't get to taking the photos last night but will shoot for today, stay tuned. I think all of the Bogs I have are hex drive.
Kxxr,
The 5/8" socket is regular half inch square drive. The double-ended spark plug socket has no "drive" at all, except the two holes for inserting a round steel pin (I wonder how many phillips screwdrivers were bent in this one?)
 

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Kxxr,
The 5/8" socket is regular half inch square drive. The double-ended spark plug socket has no "drive" at all, except the two holes for inserting a round steel pin (I wonder how many phillips screwdrivers were bent in this one?)

Of course, I didn't think that through.
 

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Hey, Stormking. Did you see this nearly identical Bog tool set which recently sold on eBay? When I first saw it, I thought it WAS your set. But then I realized that your set has a ratchet that the eBay set did not have, and the eBay set has a t-handle driver, not seen in your set. It's kind of strange...I never saw a single old Bog tool set as nice as either one of these ever before, and now two of them show up at once. :dunno:

Check out this link:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&rt=nc&nma=true&item=130416658973&si=G3h%252F7GF1gerZ27wL%252BlD1gpnUE94%253D&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT
 
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Lump, Yes I saw that set and another smaller set that just sold on ebay. I thought about buying one of them but figured as soon as I got it I'd be trying to complete two sets instead of one (ocd). My set does have the T wrench, its under the ratchet to save space. I got this set at an estate sale for $5.00 a couple of months ago, to say the least it was a good day.
 

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Wow, YOU ****!! Nice find, for sure.

I have several unbranded very-old sockets with stars stamped into them. I'll look tonight, but of course that is not really what you need. Yet they might fill in some gaps for a while for you. You could have them for shipping cost, if I have them.

Good luck.
 

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I haven't found anything that would help Stormkings Bog set yet. Haven't looked everywhere though. Here are the Hex sockets I mentioned. That is as clean as I could get them with out a wire brush or something and it's the best picture I could get with all of them in it.
The far left, and only square drive, is a half inch drive Bay, and the big cone shaped one next to it is the only one marked Bog, and it happens to be of a smaller drive size than the rest; haven't got anything that fits it yet.
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The next two each have one star on either side of the size. The rest all have sizes and different styles of knurling, but no stars and no maker names.
None of them really look exactly alike, but many look similar enough to possibly be same maker, different placing of the markings. Numbers 5, 7, and 9 seem to be plentiful around here; I see them all the time. Any guesses as to what they may be Lump?
I will check a couple of other places to find something more Bog like. I do have a couple of half to 3/8 square drive adapters that may be Bog. I will picture them later along with anything else that looks like a possibility.
 
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stormking

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Kxxr, I found the right 11/16" from oldtoolman so all the tools in the kit will be bog. I appreciate your effort. Thanks again.
 
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