four-thirteen
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I am considering going with off-peak electric heat for the detached shop. Last year we installed a geothermal heat pump for the house which involved installing the off-peak equipment (meter, breaker box, cut out switch). Oddly, the monthly fee for the extra meter and off-peak service is more than the cost of the electricity they sell us for the heat pump.
So, seeing as how we already have a slick 100 amp load center that only serves the house heat pump, it seems like a great idea to use it to power electric heaters in the shop to replace the propane heater that totally *****. We had a kick-*** woodstove in there but the insurance company required it's removal.
Currently the electrical service to the shop is through two direct burial cables, each with 15x 12 gauge stranded conductors inside. The guy who built the shop 20 years ago swears that the electric code allows the pairing of these multiple 12 gauge wires for the combined capacity. I looked at the NEC codebook for 2008, and can't find anything that allows this for 12 gauge wires, it states that multiple conductors can be paired for conductors larger than 1/0 wire. If this sounds really hokey, I totally agree and can't see how it would pass code. If you have some insight as to why this does in fact pass code, please tell me why, because it would be great to be able to steal a few conductors out of the bunch to power the electric heat.
I assume that the service conductors I am talking about above aren't up to code and thus the whole setup needs to be reworked. This is all well and good, not something I have a serious problem with, but between the shop and the house is a concrete paved driveway. No ordinary driveway, it was an quarry road in the 1940s built on a very thick bed of heavy packed class 5 that is more like concrete than dirt. Is there an economical way to get wires under this that doesn't involve tearing up the driveway? I am sure $5000 would get a horizontal boring machine out to my place, but that would kill all the savings I am trying to get out of my heating retrofit. Ideas?
So, seeing as how we already have a slick 100 amp load center that only serves the house heat pump, it seems like a great idea to use it to power electric heaters in the shop to replace the propane heater that totally *****. We had a kick-*** woodstove in there but the insurance company required it's removal.
Currently the electrical service to the shop is through two direct burial cables, each with 15x 12 gauge stranded conductors inside. The guy who built the shop 20 years ago swears that the electric code allows the pairing of these multiple 12 gauge wires for the combined capacity. I looked at the NEC codebook for 2008, and can't find anything that allows this for 12 gauge wires, it states that multiple conductors can be paired for conductors larger than 1/0 wire. If this sounds really hokey, I totally agree and can't see how it would pass code. If you have some insight as to why this does in fact pass code, please tell me why, because it would be great to be able to steal a few conductors out of the bunch to power the electric heat.
I assume that the service conductors I am talking about above aren't up to code and thus the whole setup needs to be reworked. This is all well and good, not something I have a serious problem with, but between the shop and the house is a concrete paved driveway. No ordinary driveway, it was an quarry road in the 1940s built on a very thick bed of heavy packed class 5 that is more like concrete than dirt. Is there an economical way to get wires under this that doesn't involve tearing up the driveway? I am sure $5000 would get a horizontal boring machine out to my place, but that would kill all the savings I am trying to get out of my heating retrofit. Ideas?