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Southernsorrow

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I have Snap-on Shl80a and my backup 1/2 Craftsman that was 30 years old broke so I shopped around for a upgraded backup. I snagged a brand new matco CFR158t for $48 shipped off the flEabay... The ratchet was noisy as hell when I tested it out and just as I suspected bonnnne dry... maybe 1 drop of red oil in there...

So i pull the circlip , stripped it degreased all parts put in some Slip 2000 EWL put it back together and now 75% quieter..


Was going to use marvel oil but the bottle i had has been sitting in shed forever so it didnt look right was super watery and was no longer red. It gets hot out there at upto 109 degrees with insane humidity levels so the slightly thicker slip ewl shouldnt run out while not being thick as grease.


I've been debating picking up the snap-on 24" locking flex vs Matco but after this I'll stick with the snap on.


Seriously how friggin hard is it for them to put a few drops of oil in during assembly...
 
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I have Snap-on Shl80a and my backup 1/2 Craftsman that was 30 years old broke so I shopped around for a upgraded backup. I snagged a brand new matco CFR158t for $48 shipped off the flEabay... The ratchet was noisy as hell when I tested it out and just as I suspected bonnnne dry... maybe 1 drop of red oil in there...

So i pull the circlip , stripped it degreased all parts put in some Slip 2000 EWL put it back together and now 75% quieter..


Was going to use marvel oil but the bottle i had has been sitting in shed forever so it didnt look right was super watery and was no longer red. It gets hot out there at upto 109 degrees with insane humidity levels so the slightly thicker slip ewl shouldnt run out while not being thick as grease.


I've been debating picking up the snap-on 24" locking flex vs Matco but after this I'll stick with the snap on.


Seriously how friggin hard is it for them to put a few drops of oil in during assembly...

All that typing just because you had to put grease in your ratchet? Must be a slow day. And now youre never gonna buy Matco again? :lol_hitti some of the things that people whine about on here absolutely blow my mind.

I always check every ratchet i buy, used or new.
 

Wes J

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Jesus Christ the humanity. I hope the CEO himself comes over and gives you an apology.

You should probably call the FTC and maybe the FBI. Someone should go to jail.
 
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I have Snap-on Shl80a and my backup 1/2 Craftsman that was 30 years old broke so I shopped around for a upgraded backup. I snagged a brand new matco CFR158t for $48 shipped off the flEabay... The ratchet was noisy as hell when I tested it out and just as I suspected bonnnne dry... maybe 1 drop of red oil in there...

So i pull the circlip , stripped it degreased all parts put in some Slip 2000 EWL put it back together and now 75% quieter..


Was going to use marvel oil but the bottle i had has been sitting in shed forever so it didnt look right was super watery and was no longer red. It gets hot out there at upto 109 degrees with insane humidity levels so the slightly thicker slip ewl shouldnt run out while not being thick as grease.


I've been debating picking up the snap-on 24" locking flex vs Matco but after this I'll stick with the snap on.


Seriously how friggin hard is it for them to put a few drops of oil in during assembly...



I like "brand new off of fleabay" and they (Matco) cant put a few drops of oil in it? :dunno:
 

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I have Snap-on Shl80a and my backup 1/2 Craftsman that was 30 years old broke so I shopped around for a upgraded backup. I snagged a brand new matco CFR158t for $48 shipped off the flEabay... The ratchet was noisy as hell when I tested it out and just as I suspected bonnnne dry... maybe 1 drop of red oil in there...

So i pull the circlip , stripped it degreased all parts put in some Slip 2000 EWL put it back together and now 75% quieter..


Was going to use marvel oil but the bottle i had has been sitting in shed forever so it didnt look right was super watery and was no longer red. It gets hot out there at upto 109 degrees with insane humidity levels so the slightly thicker slip ewl shouldnt run out while not being thick as grease.


I've been debating picking up the snap-on 24" locking flex vs Matco but after this I'll stick with the snap on.


Seriously how friggin hard is it for them to put a few drops of oil in during assembly...
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So you get a brand new Matco 88 tooth 1/2 ratchet for $48 shipped and your upset you had to lube it?

My post would have been me doing the happy dance.:lol_hitti

To each his own I guess.

:beer:
 
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Southernsorrow

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All that typing just because you had to put grease in your ratchet? Must be a slow day. And now youre never gonna buy Matco again? :lol_hitti some of the things that people whine about on here absolutely blow my mind.

I always check every ratchet i buy, used or new.

I always check em too :lol_hitti It just pisses me off they can't put a lil oil in what they charge a fortune for "if bought off the truck"

I still buy matco stuff I have a full set of matco knurled 1/2 extensions and a bunch of matco sockets. Even when fully oiled it's still noisier than snap-on dual 80 by far and feels more like a 60 tooth even though I counted 88...
 
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Southernsorrow

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still happy with it, I de-greased it to make sure it was all spotless before adding lube but it literally had 1 drop of red oil on the bottom of the main drive cog. I've bought dry ratchets before but damn
 

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Last week I bought a Armstrong MAXX 11-994 off an eBay seller, new, still sealed in the original packaging, for $35 shipped. It was bone dry, but I didn't fret too much about it because I saved about $90 off list. Same thing happened a couple years ago with my first Craftsman 84t ratchet, new, but arrived dry.
 

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Last week I bought a Armstrong MAXX 11-994 off an eBay seller, new, still sealed in the original packaging, for $35 shipped. It was bone dry, but I didn't fret too much about it because I saved about $90 off list. Same thing happened a couple years ago with my first Craftsman 84t ratchet, new, but arrived dry.

I picked up an 11-992 a couple weeks back. To lube the ratchet is it as simple as removing the spring clip and lifting out the mechanism? Is there anything to watch out for?
 
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Just make sure to use a light oil. Grease, even a semi-grease, will cause the pawl to stick.
 

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I'm sure Matco is in complete control of how the eBay people handle their ratchets.

It is really too bad that more ratchets aren't used around some sort of lubricant...
 

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Has it ever accured to you that the matco feels only one drop of red oil is what is needed for that ratchet to work as made . And now you have modify it there by voiding its warranty.
 

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Some ratchet co.s won't ship a lubed ratchet per e.p.a. or some criteria. I tried to order a couple higher end models and could only purchase if i bought and picked up at a local dealer. As far as a used ratchet being shipped dry thru ebay etc.only a sealed ratchet would likely stay lubed.my sealed snap on armstrong and other stay lubed for years when inspected.my ratchets with clips regardless brand need lubed over time.
 

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Seems getting tools from a top brand is about like getting a puppy. All cute till you got to clean up and take care of it. Is it worth the grief? Buy new truck tools and worry about them forever.
 

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Seems the OP might be young. Perhaps of the "I" or "me" generation that seems to find fault in everything. Perfectly operational ratchet bought second hand and fu€k Matco for putting one drop of oil in it instead of two.

I'm betting most seasoned men would have:

A) never opened it in the first place because they have work to do.

B) just shrugged, oiled the damn ratchet and moved on with life.

C) wondered why people buy top tier tools only to fret and worry about them.

You pick.
 

xjfish

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Meh, no big deal. OP put your flamesuit on I guess: :FIREdevil

Edit: I own several "dual 80" ratchets and they have been great, my 88 Matco locking flex with only 2 drops of oil in it has been awesome, I can only gripe about MAC ratchets (no biggie)... carry on.
 
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What's amazing to me is that people think ratchets need relubrication at all.

I can guarantee that no regularly used ratchet has ever died because it wasn't lubricated well enough.
 

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Seems the OP might be young. Perhaps of the "I" or "me" generation that seems to find fault in everything. Perfectly operational ratchet bought second hand and fu€k Matco for putting one drop of oil in it instead of two.

I'm betting most seasoned men would have:

A) never opened it in the first place because they have work to do.

B) just shrugged, oiled the damn ratchet and moved on with life.

C) wondered why people buy top tier tools only to fret and worry about them.

You pick.

I still don't get it.:headscrat:lol_hitti
 

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Seems the OP might be young. Perhaps of the "I" or "me" generation that seems to find fault in everything. Perfectly operational ratchet bought second hand and fu€k Matco for putting one drop of oil in it instead of two.

I'm betting most seasoned men would have:

A) never opened it in the first place because they have work to do.

B) just shrugged, oiled the damn ratchet and moved on with life.

C) wondered why people buy top tier tools only to fret and worry about them.

You pick.
B
Final answer haha

Serious though it's an eBay purchase. Can't blame Matco for someone else possible mistake .

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wafrederick

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Matco uses a white grease for their ratcheting mechanisms.Good news is production of their ratchets are starting to happen and being shipped out.My dealer ordered $3,000.00 worth of Matco ratchets including the popular locking flex heads.I do like my 3/8 drive locking flex head Matco ratchet with the plastic handle.Like it so much that I bought another one yesterday with the metal handle,one of my go to ratchets.
 

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Does nobody just dunk ratchets in the oil drain pan, shake 'em off, and wipe 'em down anymore? I've got 40 year old ratchets that have been used daily and never torn down, they work fine...get dipped (or dropped) in an oil pan whenever it happens or so.
 

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From nearly century old war clubs to modern spinner handles they all get treated the same. Wipe down after use and lubes with whatever drips on them or aft/ light grease depending on the model.

I haven't had a ratchet fail since I gave up on 'as good as ________ models at less cost' stuff.

Go with what works best for you. I did.
 
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