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Brass Hammers - why no German ones

R-mm

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My only brass hammer is in bad shape and I really like the Wiha and Gedore engineers / dead blows. I figured I would get a brass version but none to be found. In fact it seems the brass hammer is not to be found in the whole country (as represented by KC Tool) https://www.kctoolco.com/hammers/

Am I missing something? Has Germany evolved to nylon, poly faced hammers, of which there are a great many?
 
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GForceJunky

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What size hammer are you looking for and why does it need to be German?

Picard is German and makes Copper hammers (e.g. https://www.kctoolco.com/picard-17oz-copper-hammer-mining-sledge-pattern/). Hazet seems to rebrand the Picard hammers. Copper should be able to do most of what a brass hammer can, although it'll likely get a bit more mangled if you really beat on things.

If you're open to considering something made in the US.....




ABC Hammers has a ton of brass hammers made in the USA.

Estwing has as variety of made in the USA brass hammers, up to at least an 8lb brass sledge (and possibly even bigger).

Nupla also makes a variety of made in the USA brass hammers.

Proto has a variety of made in the USA brass hammers (probably rebranded from other manufacturers but possibly not).

Hacket makes a variety of made in the USA brass hammers.

K Tool International makes a variety of made in the USA bass hammers.

American Hammer makes a variety of made in the USA brass hammers.

Council tool makes a variety of made in the USA brass hammers.
 

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Does it have to be a German?

Thorex (made in England) have over 20 pages of soft faced hammers and mallets on their website, including brass ones!

I think they are imported to the U.S. by Vaughan
 

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My brass hammers are home made. Brass bar stock is cheap compared to hammers and you can use any handle shape that suits you. My go to is made with the handle from a broken Plumb hammer. I haven't done it but I have seen a really cool one made with a square on one side and round on the other.
 

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mr.lemons

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How about copper?

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Steve_P

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I have two small by Grace. One large Nupla. And a dead blow Nupla with a brass face one one side and steel on the other. I think I got the Nupla from zoro and McMaster, Grace from HJE.
 

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...I was just curious to know if the Germans had come to different conclusions about non-steel hammers than the rest of the world...

Brass is an alloy of copper, like steel is an alloy of iron. Some brass contains lead and maybe those are what is used for hammers. EU companies may have chosen to use another copper alloy and market these hammers as "copper".
 

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Copper is softer and deforms more, and brass is harder. Sometimes one is "more righter" for whatever you're doing. So as ever, the proper GJ answer to "which tool" is "all the tools".

Vaguely related anecdote: I inherited a huge ugly copper hammer from my Dad, about five pounds. I found it just sort of lying under a bunch of **** in the driveway, covered in layers of greasy filth that actually preserved it pretty well, and immediately claimed it.

It's become an invaluable and extremely handy thing-I-didn't-know-I-needed-until-I-had-one, perfect for installing bearing races and other "thumping steel without damage" tasks.

But until looking at some of the links in this thread, I had no idea copper hammers cost that much. Maybe I should keep it under separate lock and key instead of just out in the open. Crikey.
 

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Copper is softer and deforms more, and brass is harder. Sometimes one is "more righter" for whatever you're doing. So as ever, the proper GJ answer to "which tool" is "all the tools".

Vaguely related anecdote: I inherited a huge ugly copper hammer from my Dad, about five pounds. I found it just sort of lying under a bunch of **** in the driveway, covered in layers of greasy filth that actually preserved it pretty well, and immediately claimed it.

It's become an invaluable and extremely handy thing-I-didn't-know-I-needed-until-I-had-one, perfect for installing bearing races and other "thumping steel without damage" tasks.

But until looking at some of the links in this thread, I had no idea copper hammers cost that much. Maybe I should keep it under separate lock and key instead of just out in the open. Crikey.


Could someone tell me what use Brass is the best hammer for, what use is a lead hammer the best use for and what is the best use for a plastic hammer? I know they are used where you do not want to mar up/ deform the item being hammered on but not sure which is the best to use. I have all 3 and am not sure which one to pick.
 

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It's the hardness and weight of the hammer vs. what you're hitting and how hard you want to hit it.

From hardest to softest:
Brass
Copper
Lead
Plastic, wood
Rubber
Rawhide

I use my copper mjolnir most often for driving bearing races on motorcycles. The bearing races are hardened steel, and copper is dense enough to deliver a mighty thwack, but too soft to damage the steel. Copper is malleable enough that it holds together pretty well and can do its job with some marring, but not usually much chipping.

Brass would also work pretty well, but it's a harder than copper and it can be a little more brittle. Bearing races have sort of sharp edges, so a brass hammer might mar a little less, but could crack.

Lead would also work for this, but it's much softer and would damage the hammer a lot morem with chips flying everywhere. Plus, you know, lead, brain damage, etc.

A plastic or wood mallet wouldn't damage the bearing races, but would be too light to do much good. Rubber is a little heavier, but still not heavy enough and will bounce off; it doesn't deliver as much energy into the target.

As with anything else, you have to pick the right hammer material and weight for the job at hand.


As to the original topic... I have no idea why Germans might not prefer brass hammers.
 

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I too not sure why Germans don't have a lot of Brass hammers, it's also hard to find a 1/4" spinner with a female socket to use them as an extension made by Germans, barely anyone offers them in Ger.

Here in the states, I come across brass hammers often hiding in a piles of used cheap hammers for sale covered in black grungy grime but easy to spot because of the mushrooming on the head surface.

I seem to love my Nupla Dead Blow Strike Pro the most but often use the brass and lead ones as well. Nupla is a good USA company that makes all kinds of nice soft hammers.

I found this old one totally chewed up for $2 but still had plenty of material to shave off and re-dressed it and added some lipstick to it, gave it to a friend of mine as a gift.

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Could someone tell me what use Brass is the best hammer for, what use is a lead hammer the best use for and what is the best use for a plastic hammer? I know they are used where you do not want to mar up/ deform the item being hammered on but not sure which is the best to use. I have all 3 and am not sure which one to pick.

Big Steel Hammers: For beating on other steel or malleable iron objects. Good for metal working, blacksmithing and beating apart rusty pieces of steel that are stuck together.

Brass/Copper Hammers: I'd say for the most part these are interchangeable, with copper being a bit softer. These are good for tapping in bearing races or making minor "adjustments" to things. They won't ding/mark up steel surfaces as easy as steel hammers, and aren't as hard on castings. We used these a lot when doing alignments on CNC machines. Gentle taps.

Lead Hammers: These are really good for working on castings. They're super soft and super heavy, so they deliver a lot of energy per whack. If you got two pieces of cast iron or cast aluminum stuck together and need them separated - these work very well for that. They let you get real ugly without risk of damaging brittle castings. I love lead hammers, but suggest you invest in a lead hammer mold so you can recast it yourself. They wear out fast!

Plastic Hammers: Some very limited use in the automotive field, mainly for tapping on really delicate things. Same thing in the machine tool world. Very delicate, minute adjustments when aligning things. Good for very delicate/polished surfaces on softer metals.

Rubber Hammer: I've personally never seen these used for metal work, but they're pretty common in wood working. Useful for hammering finger joints and stuff together.
 

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****** rebuilders used to use brass drifts and hammers a lot

dunno why no German ones
 
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