british wentworth tools

[jay.tinder]

Anyone know where I could find them?

 

[SCscoutguy]

I bet you could find them in the United Kingdom.

 

[tatra]

whitworth...................

 

[UncleJoe]

Do you have an MGTD? My dad and I restored a 1953 MGTD back in 1970 and if I remember right that is the tools we had to have. Sold the tools with the car. Wish I still had that car.

 

[JSBriggs]

King **** offers whitworth. http://www.kingdicktools.co.uk/

Snap on used to offer them but aren't on their site. You might try Ebay.

Id also search the sites of the usual suspects.

-Jeff

 

[snapmom]

There are some British Standard (whitworth) snap on and Blue Point tools for sale on Ebay right now.

 

[Joe B.]

Chicago Craigslist - Today.

 

[jay.tinder]

Nope. I picked up a 1958 Triumph Pre-Unit.

 

[Moose-LandTran]

I can get Whitworth easily.

Of course, it does help that i live in London..

 

[quattrojon]

Check out A & R Sheldon for Whitworth tools.

http://www.ar-sheldon.com/

Jon

 

[dfndr]

The Koken Japanese sockets are good quality and reasonably priced. Google them for best price.

 

[Charles (in GA)]

Difficult to find on Ebay or Google when misspelled, especially when you morph the misspelling into another name.

www.samstagsales.com has Whitworth tools.

Charles

 

[arkangel06]

I have some..

 

[superautobacs]

The Koken Japanese sockets are good quality and reasonably priced. Google them for best price.

check Ebay for "Ko-ken whitworth".

 

[Monte]

in the US: www.britishfasteners.com or from Moss Motors

 

[Sick Puppy]

There are a few sets of Koken whitworth sockets on ebay at the mo, and there is a Koken set here in NZ on Trademe with metric and whitworth (auction finishes tomorrow).

One day I will have my 3/8" koken set... one day!

 

[Skin]

I wouldnt spend a lot if its just for your Triumph. Just get what you need, basic set of combos and sockets. You'll never use them again unless you make old brit bikes a habbit.

Tons of stuff on ebay.

Hope you'll post pics if you're restoring it.

 

[Vinko]

What's the last year a British car or bike had a Whitworth fastener?

 

[Skin]

hard to give a uniform answer for every manufacturer but the transition began in the 60s for Triumph around the time when the UK urged the industry to adopt ISO metric. Triumph specifically used a mix of Whitworth and standard for quite awhile as they were feeding off existing stocks. By the mid 70s the entire chassis was STD and the only Whitworth to be found, if any, would of been on the engine.

Certainly a good investment if you were going to start fixing old BSA, Triumph, MGs, Jags and what not though.


by the way probably should of posted this earlier but these tools may interest you Jay

http://www.lowbrowcustoms.com/whitworth-tools.aspx

 

[Bulldog13]

Lowbrow Customs...sells em-I bought a ton of stuff from them...good guy,you won't go wrong with them.

 

[jwitt]

+1 for Lowbrow
Good luck with the Pre-unit, I love 'em.

Jim

 

[Sick Puppy]

I can get Whitworth easily.

Of course, it does help that i live in London..

Whaaaaa? Silly me- I saw the moose in your spark plug thread, and figured you were Canadian! lol

Where in London are you?

 

[MikesTTGt]

Ive worked on only a couple British cars, ive never ran into a bolt that couldnt be removed using normal SAE based tools, just my experience so far tho!!

 

[UK Steve]

There are a few sets of Koken whitworth sockets on ebay at the mo, and there is a Koken set here in NZ on Trademe with metric and whitworth (auction finishes tomorrow).

One day I will have my 3/8" koken set... one day!

Hi Sick puppy don't go rushing into buying a new 3/8" Ko-ken set, because in a couple of months (or less now) Ko-ken will launch a brand new 3/8" set with with many new features (patented) not seen on any sockets/ratchets/extensions before...........

 

[Sick Puppy]

Hi Sick puppy don't go rushing into buying a new 3/8" Ko-ken set, because in a couple of months (or less now) Ko-ken will launch a brand new 3/8" set with with many new features (patented) not seen on any sockets/ratchets/extensions before...........

Excellent, thanks for the heads up! To be fair though, I don't have the cash yet anyway... yet!

Do you know what the new features are yet, or are they keeping it hush hush?

 

[Monte]

The new Ko-ken set will contain a new ratchet with smaller head, new pawl design with very smooth movement, new "ball retainer grooves" in the sockets for a better wobble free fitment, extra short sockets and a unique universal joint with "flats" inside the joint so the universal joint stays in place where you want it when a socket is attached.
Retail price will be about 150.- € net.

 

[AndrewHR]

Ive worked on only a couple British cars, Mg's And Austin Healy's ive never ran into a bolt that couldnt be removed using normal SAE based tools, just my experience so far tho!!

You can usually get close by using SAE or Metric sizes
This table shows a size comparison

 

[vbnash]

Most of the time metric or sae wrenches will do the job.

Got my parents when they were traveling to England to look for a garage sale and pick me up some. Brought me home a nice set.

 

[matthew]

You can usually get close by using SAE or Metric sizes
This table shows a size comparison

Thanks Andrew, that's a very nicely done & useful chart.

 

[Sick Puppy]

Most of the time metric or sae wrenches will do the job.

Maybe, but you'll still risk damaging the fasteners, and if you're working on old cars, you probably can't afford to do that long term... whitworth is pretty much no longer used, so I imagine the fasteners are not made as much, harder to find/buy and probably more expensive.

I wouldn't use metric/SAE on whitworth any more than I'd use SAE on Metric.

 

[Vinko]

Did any Sunbeam Alpines or Tigers use any whitworth? I know Tiger's had the Ford V8...

I forget now if Whitworth and British Standard are the same. Or were there two British standards competing with one another for a while?

 

[Kurn]

I've had several 71-73 Trumpets and BSAs and they all had a mixture of Whitworth and standard.Of course the Meridian factory was having labor troubles and I think they just used what they had on hand.

 

[SLOCOBRAR]

i,ve got a set of old proto , probably 8 combination wrenches i,d sell for $35

 

[Charles (in GA)]

I forget now if Whitworth and British Standard are the same. Or were there two British standards competing with one another for a while?

Here is a chart of Whitworth and British Standard sizes and what equals what.

http://www.samstagsales.com/whitworth_table.htm

Charles

 

[abstamaria]

Moss Motors U.S. sells them.

 

[wafrederick]

Older Jaguars use these too

 

[Skin]

I've had several 71-73 Trumpets and BSAs and they all had a mixture of Whitworth and standard.Of course the Meridian factory was having labor troubles and I think they just used what they had on hand.

Triumph used a mix of everything for many years because they had already purchased large amounts of fasteners. Only when the supply was used up did they replace it with SAE.

 

[71Datsun510Wagon]

i,ve got a set of old proto , probably 8 combination wrenches i,d sell for $35

PM sent for more info, if you don't hear from the OP.

 

[rayzor32]

just a side note too don't break or strip any nuts or bolts, the threads are at a different angle.

 

[coldfusion21]

so whitworth threads are a separate standard too? so if you stripped a bolt you would have a hard time replacing it?

This is very interesting, im glad i have no plans to mess with old british stuff!