Brymen multimeters?

[General Geoff]

Been looking to get a highly accurate DMM for checking/calibrating other meters as well as for bench work, so it doesn't have to be Fluke-level indestructible. I've heard really good things about the Brymen BM869S model, anyone here have one?

Right now my only experiences with DMMs are with what many would all throw-away ones like Innova 3320 and UniT UT210e. I'm figuring the Brymen will be far better than those in both accuracy and features.

 

[chard98]

I don't own one but I have seen good reviews on EEVBLOG. A decent price too!

 

[General Geoff]

Yeah, they go for a bit less than a lightly used Fluke 87V.

 

[kd3pc]

IF you are looking for a bench/desk model the brymen will drive you crazy with keeping it in one spot and still use the leads. Calibration of other meters is another matter all together, and if that is your goal, you need more test gear and environment.

I have an antique (or vintage) Fluke (Model 8000A) that is still MUCH more accurate than the Brymen and was way less than $100 on the great auction site a few years back.

The fluke is drop tested and impact resistant and has a substantially longer warranty.

But the Brymen is cheaper and may meet your needs.

 

[R. Johnson]

Used Fluke 77IV in the $75 range

 

[Cope]

I have the BM86, the model just below the 869. It's a great meter for a good price. Also have a Fluke 87IV. Bought my Brymen on eBay from a dealer in Italy.

 

[General Geoff]

For accuracy, I'm merely going off the Brymen's specs which are impressive if true (Resistance accuracy to 0.1%, DC voltage accuracy to 0.02%, AC voltage to 0.04%, DC current to 0.1% and AC current to 0.7%). These are better than even a Fluke 87V's published accuracy specifications.

 

[californiaHank]

Brymen doesn't sell retail in the US. Some models of Brymen meters are rebadged and sold as Greenlee, Amprobe, or Extech in the US.

IMHO, Fluke and KeySight/Agilent (US companies) both make much better meters.

 

[Infinia]

Absolute accuracy is rarely needed and costs mucho dineros. Full stop... so unless you can justify it in technical terms id suggest using a couple of cheaper models and calibrate all of them to each other, using cheaper standard/s. Much more useful is relative accuracy and even a cheap DMM can be very good indeed.

 

[Infinia]

I'm figuring the Brymen will be far better than those in both accuracy and features.

duh
what kind of work do you do?
If you want tool bragging rights and resale value just get the Fluke, don't mess with the rest!
If you want to do metrology work, buy a real standard and have it checked out & calibrated by a certified lab. If you do serious hobby circuits repair jobs, just get 2xUT61E's also perhaps a hobby V/I/R standard and calibrate all of them to it. E.g. spend money on something really useful like a O-scope.

 

[General Geoff]

duh
what kind of work do you do?
if you want tool bragging rights and resale value just get the Fluke. don't mess with the rest.

I don't need bragging rights or resale value as I never intend to sell it. I will be using it for testing circuit board components, household and automotive/motorcycle electrical troubleshooting. Nothing super advanced, I'm mostly a home gamer and only occasionally need to use a meter for my job.

 

[engineer2]

I have an older Keithley benchtop mulitimeter I don't need. It's either 6 or 8 digit. I'll look up the model number when I get home.

 

[Infinia]

I don't need bragging rights or resale value as I never intend to sell it. I will be using it for testing circuit board components, household and automotive/motorcycle electrical troubleshooting. Nothing super advanced, I'm mostly a home gamer and only occasionally need to use a meter for my job.

FWIW I personally put a UT61E through extensive validation testing! 22,000 counts and 0.1% basic DC. I'm sold on it,all for 50 bones Amazon.com

 

[cajunfirehawk]

Brymen doesn't sell retail in the US. Some models of Brymen meters are rebadged and sold as Greenlee, Amprobe, or Extech in the US.

IMHO, Fluke and KeySight/Agilent (US companies) both make much better meters.

Um, maybe https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01JZ1ADCO/?tag=atomicindus08-20

 

[californiaHank]

Um, maybe https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01JZ1ADCO/?tag=atomicindus08-20

That's the 'EEVBLOG' branded meter that Dave Jones of EEVBLOG (Australia) re-sells. I guess you can return it to Amazon if it goes bad in the first 30 days, but where would you send it for service if it goes bad after that?

 

[cajunfirehawk]

That's the 'EEVBLOG' branded meter that Dave Jones of EEVBLOG (Australia) re-sells. I guess you can return it to Amazon if it goes bad in the first 30 days, but where would you send it for service if it goes bad after that?

Dunno, mine still works after 9 mths...but I am sure Dave would make the problem right, he is a good guy. I am a member over at eevblog too.

 

[nbpt100]

Since you are a self described Home Gamer take a look a the Greenlee.

 

[californiaHank]

Quote:
Originally Posted by californiaHank View Post
That's the 'EEVBLOG' branded meter that Dave Jones of EEVBLOG (Australia) re-sells. I guess you can return it to Amazon if it goes bad in the first 30 days, but where would you send it for service if it goes bad after that?
Dunno, mine still works after 9 mths...but I am sure Dave would make the problem right, he is a good guy. I am a member over at eevblog too.
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Regards,
Todd

I've got no problems with Dave. I read his blog fairly regularly, and I like his sense of humor. But, when I buy test equipment, I prefer American brands that have strong local support and service.

Fluke pretty much owns the handheld DMM business world wide, and Keysight is the largest maker of test equipment in the world. Both are American companies, although both have Asian as well as US manufacturing facilities. I have meters from both companies.

 

[tonyciambrone]

I got a used Fluke 27M off of ebay for 100 in really good condition. Worth a look

 

[Citation]

I have and have used a number of meters. Brymen (and meters made by Brymen but sold by others) are almost my perfect Fluke alternative.

First, Greenlee version can be had on ebay for a song! Here is a meter that is a jr model of the Brymen in question, less than $60 on ebay today. I have the same meter and bought it in used but working condition for $60.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/182461987924?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

This is really a good meter with only a few minor flaws.
1. It's really big.
2. It doesn't have touch hold.

The lack of touch hold is a big drawback in my book. I've had several Flukes with that feature and it's just great. Touch hold freezes the screen once you get a stable reading vs when you push the button. This is incredibly useful as it allows you to keep both hands on the probes and your eyes on the probes. Once you touch the thing that needs to be measured the meter beeps. Pull the probes away then look at the reading on the screen. Such a great feature.

Fluke has a lot of good meters but I don't recommend the 11X series. They lack touch hold. The 17x series are good but other than having touch hold I don't see them as better than the Brymens despite costing more both new and used.

The Fluke 87V is great. The 87-3 isn't bad either though I use the temp measurement and only the 87V has that. The 87-4/187 and related 89-4/189 are great but eat batteries and probably aren't as rugged as the 87V or Brymens.

The Fluke 27 is a beast and can be found cheap from time to time. I've had several that were purchased for under $30 each (probes not included). Absolutely first rate but limited features and relatively slow continuity tester (but does have touch hold). Very good accuracy but only 3200 counts.

The Fluke 23/73 and related boxy meters really depend. The older ones aren't that great and lack proper fuses. The last ones like the 73-3 have odd interfaces, relatively slow continuity testers but do have touch hold. They tend to go for the same money as the old 27 meters. The 27s are generally better but they are huge and many have poor LCD contrast (the newest ones are very good).

Anyway, sure you can (and I have) get a Fluke for a great price on ebay but other than the lack of touch hold the Brymen meter is just a great value compared to the Fluke. Even though I like Fluke better Brymen is where I would spend my money.

 

[Alchymist]

Pick up a good Data Precision if you want a bench meter. Initially check it for accuracy, then forget about it. Last forever. May eventually need new nicad battery. Mine only lasted about 4 years before I had to replace the battery.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DATA-PRECIS...900561?hash=item2efe5b6e91:g:GysAAOSw241YXECR

 

[Infinia]

I have and have used a number of meters. Brymen (and meters made by Brymen but sold by others) are almost my perfect Fluke alternative.

First, Greenlee version can be had on ebay for a song! Here is a meter that is a jr model of the Brymen in question, less than $60 on ebay today. I have the same meter and bought it in used but working condition for $60.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/182461987924?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

This is really a good meter with only a few minor flaws.
1. It's really big.
2. It doesn't have touch hold.

The lack of touch hold is a big drawback in my book. I've had several Flukes with that feature and it's just great. Touch hold freezes the screen once you get a stable reading vs when you push the button. This is incredibly useful as it allows you to keep both hands on the probes and your eyes on the probes. Once you touch the thing that needs to be measured the meter beeps. Pull the probes away then look at the reading on the screen. Such a great feature.

Fluke has a lot of good meters but I don't recommend the 11X series. They lack touch hold. The 17x series are good but other than having touch hold I don't see them as better than the Brymens despite costing more both new and used.

The Fluke 87V is great. The 87-3 isn't bad either though I use the temp measurement and only the 87V has that. The 87-4/187 and related 89-4/189 are great but eat batteries and probably aren't as rugged as the 87V or Brymens.

The Fluke 27 is a beast and can be found cheap from time to time. I've had several that were purchased for under $30 each (probes not included). Absolutely first rate but limited features and relatively slow continuity tester (but does have touch hold). Very good accuracy but only 3200 counts.

The Fluke 23/73 and related boxy meters really depend. The older ones aren't that great and lack proper fuses. The last ones like the 73-3 have odd interfaces, relatively slow continuity testers but do have touch hold. They tend to go for the same money as the old 27 meters. The 27s are generally better but they are huge and many have poor LCD contrast (the newest ones are very good).

Anyway, sure you can (and I have) get a Fluke for a great price on ebay but other than the lack of touch hold the Brymen meter is just a great value compared to the Fluke. Even though I like Fluke better Brymen is where I would spend my money.

What do you need 'touch hold' for. Consider using a neutral/ ground clip on anything other than going hot to hot on utility panels / line voltages?
UT61e has that feature but I never use it
Brymans arent sold or serviced in the USA besides I would NOT expect much support from Greenlee rebadged units either ( esp. when a unit is discontinued as fast as Brymen does). I just don't get the love for Brymen outside of the internet fanboys. Any new handheld DMM sold for under 200 wouldn't hold a candle to UT61e, fullstop.
going ebay is a whole different beast, esp throwing a bench top DMM into the mix!

 

[Citation]

What do you need 'touch hold' for. Consider using a neutral/ ground clip on anything other than going hot to hot on utility panels / line voltages?
UT61e has that feature but I never use it
Brymans arent sold or serviced in the USA besides I would NOT expect much support from Greenlee rebadged units either ( esp. when a unit is discontinued as fast as Brymen does). I just don't get the love for Brymen outside of the internet fanboys. Any new handheld DMM sold for under 200 wouldn't hold a candle to UT61e, fullstop.
going ebay is a whole different beast, esp throwing a bench top DMM into the mix!

Touch hold is very useful when you are trying to get measurements across two points on a circuit that aren't easy to get at. I seriously use the feature all the time. Mind you most of what I do is CAT1 (more electronic than electrical). Often I'm trying to get a measurement where a slip of the probes could damage the circuit I'm measuring (not safety, just damage).

I do get that Fluke has great service but to be honest how often do you need to get any of these things serviced? The UT61e is OK I guess. The reviews have pointed out a number of issues that can be a problem depending on the types of measurements you make. Still, for the price the Brymen based meters (Greenlee, some Amprobes, a few Extechs) are just really good meters.

 

[Infinia]

Often I'm trying to get a measurement where a slip of the probes could damage the circuit I'm measuring (not safety, just damage).

The quote above hits the nail on the head, I use a real sharp probe with insulation all way to the very tip, and a ground clip (usually a mini-grabber ) on the other side. One hand rule BTW Using 'touch hold' wont save you here when using the wrong probes!
I ditch those silly things called probes on most any DMM. I typically use "mini-grabbers' for electronics /components and a single probe for probing. IMO If you need two hands for measuring something, it's time to stop and evaluate the overall measurement technique.
IMO Folks that rely on touch hold many times, are new gamers or are doing something dangerous.

I do get that Fluke has great service but to be honest how often do you need to get any of these things serviced.

uhh hopefully never, but some buyers need that box checked off. The calibration labs might have another view as well. Folks don't know that lot of cal labs never do "factory' repairs.

The UT61e is OK I guess. The reviews have pointed out a number of issues that can be a problem depending on the types of measurements you make.

Ambiguous statements like this don't help buyers. Even Flukes have many fails except at the upper end of the spectrum. Care to point them out in comparison to any other meter under 150 smackers?

 

[Citation]

The quote above hits the nail on the head, I use a real sharp probe with insulation all way to the very tip, and a ground clip (usually a mini-grabber ) on the other side. One hand rule BTW Using 'touch hold' wont save you here when using the wrong probes!
I ditch those silly things called probes on most any DMM. I typically use "mini-grabbers' for electronics /components and a single probe for probing. IMO If you need two hands for measuring something, it's time to stop and evaluate the overall measurement technique.
IMO Folks that rely on touch hold many times, are new gamers or are doing something dangerous.

uhh hopefully never, but some buyers need that box checked off. The calibration labs might have another view as well. Folks don't know that lot of cal labs never do "factory' repairs.


Ambiguous statements like this don't help buyers. Even Flukes have many fails except at the upper end of the spectrum. Care to point them out in comparison to any other meter under 150 smackers?

That's nice and I have several different probes but they aren't always handy. Look, I guess you don't like the touch hold feature. OK. I think it's a great feature. I appreciate your advice... I'm not going to take it because I've got enough years of experience that I'm comfortable with how I take measurements but thanks for the suggestions. I guess opinions are like bung holes. Every barrel has one.

As for the issues with the UT61E, well here you are lecturing people yet you aren't aware of the reported issues with that meter (I say reported because I haven't owned one). Off the top of my head, the mA burden voltage is high (unacceptably high for some cases). The accuracy isn't all that and you have but one trim pot that adjusts several ranges at once. Thus you can trim your DC Volts in but that might reduce the AC Volts accuracy. The safety circuitry is not up to Fluke or Brymen standards. That may not matter for you (it rarely matters for me) but if you are going to rant about safety, well this is a safety concern.

You say Greenlee has no support but do you think the ebay sellers of the UT61E are going to support you two years later?

If you want a good meter for under $150 I'll take this one over the UT61E
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004W2NJLO/?tag=atomicindus08-20

or a used Greenlee DM860 for $60

Here is a long thread on the meter.
http://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/uni-t-ut61e-multimeter-teardown-photos/?nowap

 

[General Geoff]

or a used Greenlee DM860 for $60

If I could get a used DM860 for $60, I'd be all over it!

Right now the going rate for a new Brymen BM869S is about $212, which I think is very reasonable for the feature set it has.

 

[Infinia]

Look, I guess you don't like the touch hold feature. OK. I think it's a great feature.

nope never said I don't like it. I was genuinely open to listening why you needed to have it. You just explained how it works again, not really explaining 'the why'. I can see its certainly nice to have for several scenarios, but its really not all that important in grand scheme of much more important DMM features. Like having good probes, the 'relative or delta function button, or having dedicated current jacks so you don't pop mA fuses on a function dial rotation.

As for the issues with the UT61E, well here you are lecturing people yet you aren't aware of the reported issues with that meter (I say reported because I haven't owned one). ]

lecturing? Yer the one putting out a blanket statement saying the UT61 has "reported problems" w/o pointing them out, yet ignoring another brands shortcoming.? me I'm not going to try and repair the so called problems reported by the internet. This is nothing but a hit and run smear tactic. This Internet stuff that really chaps my hide!! Remember Brymen is mostly sales and hype rolled into a big ball, all reported from the EEVblog channel / forum. Believe me it's not all that, they all have to poo on UniT 61e at half the price and yet want to play with the big boys at the top end.
Not many know Fluke contracts to UniT for their imported low end line up, so there it is. Would I pay double for Daves blue Brymen w/ less features and specs than a UT61e no way.
On the other hand (not the OP) If your a pro level, buy a real tool , it's not all specs and function feature set put down on a piece of paper , there are many other intangibles at play. For many its hard to argue against an upper tier tool from an industry proven leader. Is worth paying 50% more than a Brymen? no question in my mind,.
Remember look at who is selling what and take that into good account in your decision. Don't Take the biased reviews from folks that are YouTube/Internet sales people, look at their link$ ...they seem sincere but are they? haha

 

[Citation]

nope never said I don't like it. I was genuinely open to listening why you needed to have it. You just explained how it works again, not really explaining 'the why'. I can see its certainly nice to have for several scenarios, but its really not all that important in grand scheme of much more important DMM features. Like having good probes, the 'relative or delta function button, or having dedicated current jacks so you don't pop mA fuses on a function dial rotation.

lecturing? Yer the one putting out a blanket statement saying the UT61 has "reported problems" w/o pointing them out, yet ignoring another brands shortcoming.? me I'm not going to try and repair the so called problems reported by the internet. This is nothing but a hit and run smear tactic. This Internet stuff that really chaps my hide!! Remember Brymen is mostly sales and hype rolled into a big ball, all reported from the EEVblog channel / forum. Believe me it's not all that, they all have to poo on UniT 61e at half the price and yet want to play with the big boys at the top end.
Not many know Fluke contracts to UniT for their imported low end line up, so there it is. Would I pay double for Daves blue Brymen w/ less features and specs than a UT61e no way.
On the other hand (not the OP) If your a pro level, buy a real tool , it's not all specs and function feature set put down on a piece of paper , there are many other intangibles at play. For many its hard to argue against an upper tier tool from an industry proven leader. Is worth paying 50% more than a Brymen? no question in my mind,.
Remember look at who is selling what and take that into good account in your decision. Don't Take the biased reviews from folks that are YouTube/Internet sales people, look at their link$ ...they seem sincere but are they? haha

This is starting to get circular. I've explained why I like touch hold. It's a feature I use frequently. I'm sorry I don't have an example at hand that meets your requirements. Ironically I rarely use relative or delta measurements so I could quite easily say why bother which such a useless feature. I agree with dedicated mA jacks. The Brymen's I've used have such jacks and also have a warning if you have the probes in a current range jack when you have it set to non-current measurements. Ironically if you don't care about touch hold then one of the biggest reasons I have to suggest Fluke over Brymen goes away. BTW, the Brymens have really nice probes.


I'm well aware that Uni-T is reportedly the OEM for Fluke's China meters. Those China Flukes are very well built. Certainly based on the pictures I've seen the Uni-T made Flukes are up to Fluke standards while the Uni-T based Speary meter was clearly not.

Yes, lecturing. You said I put out a blanket statement. Well when asked I gave details. Now look at your blanket statements. You are claiming that people who like Brymen meters are either selling them or sheeple. I've had several Brymen OEMed meters and had them well before Dave Jones embraced Brymen. I liked them because they were well designed and well made for the money. I'm sure all the EEVblog forum members who have concerns about some of the UT61e limitations are all Brymen shills. I might be mistaken but I thought people also noted slowish continuity testing and autoranging. However, I could be wrong about this as it's been a while since I was reading about that meter.

The UT61e isn't a terrible meter by any measure and for $50 I've been tempted to get one myself. However, there are enough reviews out there that I feel confident in saying it's not going to be as good as the Brymens I've used.

Anyway, the OP asked about Brymen and got answers. I think Brymen (OEM vs brand) are great meters for the money. That doesn't mean there aren't other good values or others might find something that works for them for less. It also doesn't mean all the positive Brymen reviews are paid shills.

 

[Infinia]

sorry your Brymen doesn't have 22,000 counts, will it do AC RMS down to 0.1mv, out to 15 KHz & higher, got a frequency counter that measures well in the MHz. Capacitance function that can measure 10's of pF out to >10,000 uF? The big things ppl miss out on.
HV /HE safety protection isn't needed for most. you said it yourself, then repeat it as a short coming? IMO those HV protections are only for dummies let loose in an industrial setting. The shills selling other things have to harp on this as a huge problem. Makes me laugh. It's a 50 dollar meter don't buy one and use it in professional setting, there half of the "problems" solved. We never had "CAT rated meters and safely made many measurements on transmitters with thousands of volts. Half of it is knowing what end the stick yer looking at, the other is using the right probes.
Internal pots adj other things? WTF it's a 0.1% tool, just leave it alone and use it.
Guys on the internet modifying/tweaking inside a 50 dollar tool and then complain after they break it. sheesh.

This is starting to get circular. I've explained why I like touch hold. It's a feature I use frequently. I'm sorry I don't have an example at hand that meets your requirements. Ironically I rarely use relative or delta measurements so I could quite easily say why bother which such a useless feature.

Ironic indeed ^this tells me very loudly, you haven't much experience electronics type testing /repairs. The other so called problems, shows you hang out on the internet for your 2nd hand opinions /experience. Ive never heard someone say they do CAT 1 testing. LOL Saying the relative button is useless. Woah you are now shooting yourself down. You should really buy some quality clip-on leads and use a common ground.

 

[American Locomotive]

If Brymen is good enough for EEVBLOG, it's good enough for me.

As far as Uni-T goes, I would stay away. I hear of lots of quality issues, including people getting blatantly untested DoA meters.

 

[Infinia]

"I heard the sky is falling."
blanket statements don't help serious tool buyers. Sure UniT has a lot of crappola, that i'll agree to. I bought the UT61e and put it through extensive tests to evaluate it. I'm impressed and even staggered what can done for price of a meal for 2, it's a solid piece of kit.
Is it for you? IDK if you want to spend more, sure id say look else where. Heck I guarantee a 10 dollar meter will work fine for 90% of the stuff DIY people do.

 

[General Geoff]

sorry your Brymen doesn't have 22,000 counts, will it do AC RMS down to 0.1mv, out to 15 KHz & higher, got a frequency counter that measures well in the MHz. Capacitance function that can measure 10's of pF out to >10,000 uF?

The bm869s I'm looking at is a 500,000 count meter and should easily do most of that, though the spec sheet says it will only measure frequency up to 200 kHz

 

[Citation]

sorry your Brymen doesn't have 22,000 counts, will it do AC RMS down to 0.1mv, out to 15 KHz & higher, got a frequency counter that measures well in the MHz. Capacitance function that can measure 10's of pF out to >10,000 uF? The big things ppl miss out on.
HV /HE safety protection isn't needed for most. you said it yourself, then repeat it as a short coming? IMO those HV protections are only for dummies let loose in an industrial setting. The shills selling other things have to harp on this as a huge problem. Makes me laugh. It's a 50 dollar meter don't buy one and use it in professional setting, there half of the "problems" solved. We never had "CAT rated meters and safely made many measurements on transmitters with thousands of volts. Half of it is knowing what end the stick yer looking at, the other is using the right probes.
Internal pots adj other things? WTF it's a 0.1% tool, just leave it alone and use it.
Guys on the internet modifying/tweaking inside a 50 dollar tool and then complain after they break it. sheesh.

Ironic indeed ^this tells me very loudly, you haven't much experience electronics type testing /repairs. The other so called problems, shows you hang out on the internet for your 2nd hand opinions /experience. Ive never heard someone say they do CAT 1 testing. LOL Saying the relative button is useless. Woah you are now shooting yourself down. You should really buy some quality clip-on leads and use a common ground.

The internet warrior is strong with this one!
Spec warrior for the win! Yes the Brymen I have meets your specs
So a feature I use a lot is worthless because you don't use it. A feature you use but I've never had much use for is proof I don't do "real work" is mission critical. Sure if it makes you happy. You have no idea what sort of systems I've designed/worked on but you certainly have shown us!

If you don't know what CAT 1 circuits are you have no business lecturing others... more so when you haven't shown that you have much if a clue

 

[Infinia]

but you certainly have shown us!

Us? I speak for myself , who are you, a spokesman for Bryman or EEVblog

Designing systems and testing circuits are two different expertise groups don't confuse them.
I hope you don't buy gear for your test labs, You will get a beatdown saying it was recommended by the guys on EEVblog. haha

A feature you use but I've never had much use for is proof I don't do "real work" is mission critical.

absolutely , you never used the REL function? i'm simply flabbergast by the revelation.

 

[Citation]

Us? I speak for myself , who are you, a spokesman for Bryman or EEVblog

Designing systems and testing circuits are two different expertise groups don't confuse them.
I hope you don't buy gear for your test labs, You will get a beatdown saying it was recommended by the guys on EEVblog. haha

What a strong web warrior you are! Go get a part on the back from mom.

 

[Infinia]

What a strong web warrior you are! Go get a part on the back from mom.

That is it in a nutshell. The internet is full of rubbish, the real world isn't your oyster. I get it!
personal attacks mean you have reached the end of your leash. bye

 

[Citation]

That is it in a nutshell. The internet is full of rubbish, the real world isn't your oyster. I get it!
personal attacks mean you have reached the end of your leash. bye

No, you are just dumb enough to think you 'won'. In reality all you've done its show that you like at argue on the web and accuse others while proudly showing your own ignorance.

I guess when I wrestle with a pig I shouldn't be surprised that I got muddy.

 

[General Geoff]

So anyway, I guess Brymen makes a pretty good meter that, as long as I'm not an idiot with it, should last a long time.

To get a Fluke with the same features it's going to be at least twice as expensive new, and even used it will be more than a new Brymen. I'm not too concerned about warranty.

Thanks for the input guys.

 

[Infinia]

The bm869s I'm looking at is a 500,000 count meter and should easily do most of that, though the spec sheet says it will only measure frequency up to 200 kHz

Buy what you really need. Are you doing high precision or AC signal work? Put the money towards other gear. Have a big test eq. budget? Stick with the market leaders, hard lessons can be time consuming on the time budget to get work done.

On the other hand (not the OP) If your a pro level, buy a real tool , it's not all specs and function feature set put down on a piece of paper , there are many other intangibles at play. For many its hard to argue against an upper tier tool from an industry proven leader. Is worth paying 50% more than a Brymen? no question in my mind,.
Remember look at who is selling what and take that into good account in your decision. Don't Take the biased reviews from folks that are YouTube/Internet sales people, look at their link$ ...they seem sincere but are they? haha

 

[Citation]

Op, story about the thread derail. Some just have to attack others for having different opinions and some of us are dumb enough to try to teach them.