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Budget Air Setup

akfj40

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I am trying to get an air set up for painting. I need this done fast.


Here is my plan
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I need to use as little copper as possible.

I only have a 28 gallon compressor that I will use to paint my car.

I am trying to do this for $100 or less :bounce:

Any problems with my drawing?

Thanks
 
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I really can't see anything wrong with it.

I would suggest using a large trunk line - like maybe 3/4" and use 1/2" for the drops. The reason for this is to slow the air speed and allow more time for cooling which is the only way you are going to get any water out of the air - especially if your system is only 20' long. You might even want to come out of your tank with a 25' hose submersed in a bucket of cool water before going into your trunk line.

You can never have dry enough air for painting.

Scott
 

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Just curious, I can't really tell which way the pipes are angled. Once you make the riser from the A/C I am pretty sure that you need to angle the horizontal run downhill towards your drop leg and the ball valves.

Don't skimp when it comes to components. I think you will be sorry. I have a really nice quality coalesing filter (the filter is the size of a roll of toilet paper) and air line that is dedicated to painting. it's a seperate rig that I plug into the wall when I am ready to paint. This is in addition to a filter on the gun itself.

Rick
 

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I don't think you can get there for $100.

Your taps off your upper horizontal should come off the top, not the bottom.
You don't need the upper ball valves.
 
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akfj40

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1320stang said:
I don't think you can get there for $100.

Your taps off your upper horizontal should come off the top, not the bottom.
You don't need the upper ball valves.

My compressor doesn't have auto drain.

Should I slope towards the compressor or the second drop on the right similar to the drawing from the filter website?

Maybe I should use long horizontals and shorter drops? Similar to this setup but sloping to my second drop?
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I know the $100 budget is a stretch, but that is what I am shooting for.

I don't want to go into the copper vs. black pipe debate, but will black pipe being cheaper, would that be the route? With both the copper or black pipe route, I will have to buy some tools (e.g. torch) but I don't have a pipe threader.

Another question is my filter, Sharpe 606A. Would I be better off with the Motorguard and some bulb filters? I like the 606A vs. F88 because of the regulator. I also plan on using some bulb filters after the 606A.

Thanks for the help
 
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akfj40

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Another thought....

I haven't priced copper or black pipe for a couple months. Anyone know the current prices? Although I am not sure I really want to waste the money on black pipe. My hardware stores that sell them are a good 2hrs. away (living in the boondox)

Thanks again.
 
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akfj40

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1320stang said:
Your taps off your upper horizontal should come off the top, not the bottom.

This is what I was planning on do. Is that what you are talking about?
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That last pic, yes.

A 10' stick of 3/4" is about $30.

I wasn't clear on what you had besides the compressor. Is it regulated? Do you have any filters?

I don't like that Sharpe filter, someone on here had problems with it as I recall, DeVilbiss has one that looks like it as well, both look cheap to me, Chinese or something. That dessicant system is probably $300-$400 by itself.
I've got about $100 in my 3/4" Norgren regulator and filter I bought off Ebay and I don't have a lick of copper yet.

If it's something to get you by for a while, I'd go with black iron pipe in pre-cut sticks, but if you're wanting to add to it later....
 
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akfj40

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This will be something to get by with... I just need it now to finish painting.


I am not using Sharpe's dessicant system. I was going with the 606A. I thought it was good after talking with Len over at Autobodystore.com

I'm not too sure though. I'll look into the filter you bought.


Now that I have done copper research, any setups with black iron pipe? I didn't see many on this board.

Can I do the same setup as the illustration I drew above?

Thanks for all the help
 

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An inexpensive way to do it is to buy a 50 or 100 (better) foot 1/2" or larger air hose instead of the copper or iron. It's much quicker to install, the long length can be immersed in a tub of ice water if you're worried about wet air that your filter might not catch. And yes, you can skip the two upper ball valves, but I would put one before your regulator.

Your bigger problem for painting a car will be the size of the air cap on your gun you're going to use. My best gun uses almost 5 times the air that my smallest (full size) sprayer does. The smallest one works great, but for slower applications of smaller projects.
 
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