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Building my first shop

River Runner

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Hello,

I have been browsing this board for years and am finally in the position to build my first shop. I have rented both a pole barn style and steel building over the past 8 years. The steel building was comfortable but I didn't like that it didn't have flat walls. The current pole barn style I am in is ok but real old and far from tight.

I am looking to build something around 30x50x14. I got a quote for a fully insulated red iron unit for about $25k, materials only. Not bad but I still have to pour a foundation, slab and erect the structure. I have been pricing out a stick build unit and it seems to be actually cheaper and probably much easier for me to do since I actually have experience with standard residential construction.

My other option is 8" cmu block. My father in law is a retired mason and knows block construction like the back of his hand is willing to lead the project.

My goal is a simple warm shop with little maintenance. I thought that perhaps block would be nice because the interior would be great for welding in and getting grease on. I could just paint it and wash it as needed. But block isn't the warmest. I can't find much information on insulating the exterior of a block building. My thought was as follows, from the inside out, Block, 2" of rigid foam, 2x4's as furring strips over the foam attached with a ramset style tool (I think Hilti makes it) then metal siding. The furring strips would provide a 1.5" air gap between the siding and foam to allow for drainage.

Or just do a 2x6 building with batt insulation and osb instead of drywall inside. Thoughts? Thanks!
 
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My Old Tools

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You can stud wall the inside of a red iron metal building to hang rock or OSB. 24" on center with single top and bottom plate. I did one like that to create a 2 bedroom barn-do-minium. It made a very quiet and efficient building.
 

finn

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Stick built with 2x6” walls and fiberglass bats will be easy, well insulated, and easy to finish the interior walls with steel, osb, or a combination of the two.
 
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matt_i

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2x6 building, insulate under the slab, stick build, vinyl siding/aluminum trim, 30yr architectural shingles, Roxul insulation, get 10" of loose fill in the attic, either storage trusses or "energy heel".

Should be warm and low maintenance.
 

Homerr

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How about a hybrid CMU/stick-built?

Build up CMU wall 4' above your slab and then stick build 10' stud walls on top. The furring like you describe could be wainscot around the building base at the CMU and then step back in at the studs.
 
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River Runner

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Thanks for the input! I have thought about doing a CMU hybrid that goes up about 3-4'. This would helpful with snow melting off vehicles and what not. Is insulating under a slab important without hydronic heat?
 
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