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Busted off a f'n "easyout" any suggestions

Muggzy

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Here's a pic of the situation:
Second one from the left on the bottom row

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liliysdad

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If you have a GOOD center punch, sometimes they will shatter, and you can get them out. Short of that, I would probably weld a nut to that bolt, and try to back the whole mess out of there.
 

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Looks like the head of the allen bolt sticks out a good bit from the manifold, I would take a dremel or cutoff wheel and cut a slot in both the bolt and the easy out, then use a good heavy flat bladed screwdriver (I have a big old snap on screwdriver with a hex on it that has come in really handy for things like this before) or possibly one of the impact screwdrivers to back it out.

You can also weld a nut to it as mentioned above, sometimes the heat from the welder or the cutoff wheel, and the subsequent cooling down can free up stuck bolts like that.
 

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Kroil the piss out of it, and then apply heat with either a heat gun, or propane torch, as this may allow the penetrating oil to work.
 
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"Easy Out"... I've never seen one single tool more inappropriately named.

X3 the damn things rarely ever work for me either. The slot with the Dremel worked and rather than risk it happening again, I just drilled the head off the other screw that was stuck. Thanks

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A 50/50 solution of ATF and acetone is twice as effective (or therabouts) than Kroil. It's pretty incredible stuff.

Welding around that brass manifold may be a little tricky. I would try to grind a slot as mentioned and use one of those stuck bolt screw drivers that you hit with a hammer (called an "impact" driver but not necessarily the same thing as a ratcheting impact driver). Those hammer drivers get a lot of inward force to keep the flathead engaged. Resort to welding if that doesn't get it.

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"Easy Out"... I've never seen one single tool more inappropriately named.

:+1: I have a bunch of them, picked up a coffee can full years ago at a garage sale. Either I am doing it wrong or they are totally useless. :dunno:

My usual method for broken screw/drill/ what ever it may be removal is...

-Pliers if enough protrudes
-Dremel a slot or grind out the offending piece
-Left handed drill bit on top or standard drill bit from the back (usually with luck I can get the old threads to spin right out)
-Weld a nut on and then use a wrench or socket

Good luck BTDT many a times over, I feel your pain. :beer:

They should call them Easy Breaks.

:lol: About the only thing they seem good for is increasing my level of frustration ~10 fold. :mad:
 
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stupid easy outs. Looks like the pump from a pressure washer?? I would try the kroil for a few days before I welded a nut. Looks like a pain in the a$$ position.
 

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You can get screwdriver bits that are 3/8 or 1/2 inch drive, and put an extension/ratchet on them for maximum torque.
 

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If you do apply heat, make sure you pull the valves out of the fluid end of that pump.

I would use a carbide burr on a dremel tool to remove material on the head of the bolt. Once you remove enough, the extractor should come out easily. Then simply drill the rest of the head off the bolt.
 

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Just a tip. I can see u rounded off another one of those allen screws. I usually will hammer in a torx bit into rounded allen screws. Work great and wont break off like an easy out. Just grind a slot into the bolt and use a impact driver.
 
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When we would bust off an easy out in a screw on the aircraft we would use a pencil grinder and a burr bit to grind them out. You can usually get them a point where you can use a scribe to pop them out of the fastener. You have enough of that one left you may be able to grind it a bit and then tap it out with a chisel.

These are a great easy out and Sears sells them rebranded with the Craftsman name. They are fairly stout and the helical design is a lot better than the standard easy out, imho.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000H6PM32/?tag=atomicindus08-20
 

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I broke the first one I used. Then threw the case in the tool box hoping to never see them again.

We used *tons* of them, total replaced all of the old style easy outs we had more or less. If you use them how they are meant to be used I have not had any troubles with them. Like any easy out though you have bad batches, we tossed a ton of Makitas we got in the shop once because all of the helical ridges were rolling right back within one use. Just got a bad batch ...
 

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A lot depends on what the fastener is you are trying to remove. The only sure fire solution is just to have someone else do it :) !
 

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I've drilled them out with carbide tipped drills then used a square drive screw extractor to remove the bolt (after vibrating in Liquid Wrench by tapping the bolt head). I only use the square type screw removers. They are not shinny like the easy outs and I haven't broken one ever. If I remember correctly, they sometimes bend a little but don't shatter.
 

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On the new screws, a little of the silver Anti-seize on the first few threads, will make removal easier next time.
 

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i had one break off on a flywheel bolt. i was able to get a tiny dremel stone and grind on it untill i could take a magnet and remove it.
 

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I've had easy outs break, I've drilled them out but it was ridiculous, broke a few bits as well like someone else mentioned.

I to would would first try grinding a slot for a big flatblade or hand impact, I've had that work a few times real nicely, otherwise weld a nut to it will usually work well.
 

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I broke the first one I used. Then threw the case in the tool box hoping to never see them again.

Same here, they have no place in a garage except maybe a trim screw or something.

Should be able to chip the easy out outa there I would think.

Easy outs are a joke, I remove broken bolts for a living (feels that way sometimes) and the irwin multi spline extractors are the best thing I've used hands down. I have yet to break one or see any of the other guys break them, incredible the torque they take. They're perfect for stripped out Allen heads just like you have there.

Problem with not so easy outs, as I call them, say you drill a hole in a broke bolt in something threaded. Seems to me the easy out wedges expanding the bolt making it that much tighter to get out. The Irwin's grip much better and don't expand it as bad.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0006NF5W4/?tag=atomicindus08-20
 

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x 3 on grind a slot and then use an impact driver.

Grind a slot
Been there done that.
I have had good luck grinding a slot then hitting it with a flat chisel in the slot in a counter clockwise direction to spin it out. This keeps from tearing up your screwdrivers.

Also on the other bolts that have not been loosened yet. Take a small round punch that will fit inside the hex head and give them several good taps to shock the threads. This will aid in them breaking loose.
 
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