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c. 1925 Hol-Set Mfg Corp wrench kit

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As originally reported in the Garage Sale thread, linked here, I found a c. 1925 Hol-Set Manufacturing Corporation (Rochester, NY) socket wrench kit at a flea market last Friday.

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It was so rusty, I could not even identify it at the flea market, and I had never seen anything like it before, so I had no idea what it was. El cheapo sockets stored on their own L-wrench, yes. Heavy duty sockets on a speeder, and a hex drive speeder to boot, with its own hanging hook, no.

I have a thing for self-contained kits, and this kit was way too cool to leave behind. Believe it or not, in a year of some pretty nice finds (e.g., fin-de-siècle jeweler’s desk, Onli-1 socket set, Civil War era combination tack hammer-screwdriver-pry tool, etc), this might be one of my favorites.

In doing some basic Google Books and Newspapers.com research, I discovered that Hol-Set was in operation at 81 Mt. Hope Avenue in Rochester, NY, in the mid to late 1920’s, advertising most heavily 1924 through 1927. I also discovered that Alloy Artifacts has an example in their collection. Link here. While their example is cleaner than mine, it’s less complete, missing three (3) of the seven (7) sockets and a valve grinding attachment.

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My example is also incomplete, apparently, as an ad I found in the 7 May 1924 edition of the Hamilton (Ohio) Evening Journal indicated that it also came with an L-handle, which seems counter-intuitive to me given the self-storage features of the kit and the self-evidentiary and completely unsurprising fact that it’s missing.

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Alloy Artifacts says they have a general hardware catalog that indicates the set also came with a universal joint, but one is not shown in the ad I found above, and I fail to see how it would fit on the shank (there is not enough space between the end and the bend in the swing to put one more piece on this shank), unless it, too, was separate.

The sockets on this kit would not budge. They were so frozen with rust to each other and the shank of the speeder that after soaking in penetrating oil I still had to use a little force with a blunt chisel, hammer, and pipe wrench to separate them and get them moving down the shank. The shank and some of the sockets still need some finishing work, but the kit is at least presentable.

Despite their condition, I don’t think this set was ever used. There are no signs of use on the drive edges of the sockets, the service openings of the sockets, or the drive end of the speeder. I think it was purchased and sat in a damp place in a garage. For being nearly a hundred years old, it looks great if I do say so myself.

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It’s a 1/2-inch hex drive kit. The speeder is 19” long and made from 1/2-inch round stock steel with the last 10-1/2 inches machined into a hex drive shape. The door knob type cap on the end rotates. The end under the cap is welded onto the shank. The sockets – as marked, 1-2, 9-16, 5-8, 11-16, 3-4, 7-8 and 15-16 (extra deep) – are heavy duty, very well made, machined, and chamfered. The knurling is the deepest knurling I have ever encountered on sockets, reminding me almost of a rasp, and that includes all the major mfgrs. Everything is dark natural steel.

The only piece that is a little mysterious is that forked thing. AA seems to think it’s related to the hook, but I’m not buying that. It doesn’t fit inside of it or stabilize it. In fact, the way they’re showing it puts the hook in a weird position, instead of swinging freely, as the hole is intended, where hanging would be awkward. And, the ad shows the hook swinging freely, with the other piece at the bottom near the speeder’s drive end.

This seems like a reach, but I honestly thought it might be the valve lapper. Valve grinder attachments in that era were very crude and simple, just pieces of thin pressed steel or sheet metal cut into different shapes and pinned to a special socket for turning. But I have my reservations about that as well. Thoughts welcome.

See thumbnails for additional photos, including close-ups, as well as some 'Before' pics.
 

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Wow, super cool find! I really enjoy your pictures, research, and finding old advertisements. Well documented posts like yours make GJ fascinating to read.
Do you think the L-handle and universal joint might be stamped with the company name? We all need to know what to look for, in case we stumble upon your missing kit parts. :thumbup:
 
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very cool find, I'm very surprised that it is so complete.
Thanks, Sam. Me too!

Very cool, I miss being in Abq, NM and going to all the flea market/thrift stores. :(
Thanks, dreamer. May you get your flea fix on in 2018! :)

The forked piece is for leveraging valve springs so you can remove keepers on side valve engines.
Hmm. I'm liking that, RJ. It's certainly shaped like a lifter or keeper inserter. But why is it hex shaped? You wouldn't turn it. And how would you turn the missing lapper attachment?
EDIT: Disregard those questions. It's hex shaped merely for storage on the end of the shank. I think you might have solved it.
 

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Thanks, Sam. Me too!


Thanks, dreamer. May you get your flea fix on in 2018! :)


Hmm. I'm liking that, RJ. It's certainly shaped like a lifter or keeper inserter. But why is it hex shaped? You wouldn't turn it. And how would you turn the missing lapper attachment?
EDIT: Disregard those questions. It's hex shaped merely for storage on the end of the shank. I think you might have solved it.

you sure? you'd need leverage some how. Using the speed handle would do it or the missing hex L piece. The hook might be used in the procedure compressing and holding that spring to mess with valve and keeper. I believe there's "perfect handle" spring compressor that uses small chain with hook.

Some where around here i got some of those hex sockets…. i scratch my head wondering what the hell, when i run across them.. then put back into the oblivion here.
 
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Yeah that (the missing L handle) would work. I just wasn't understanding how you'd use it on the end of the speeder, which would make the speeder unavailable for lapping. But it's only kept on the end of the speeder when stored.
 

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Yeah, I couldn't have left that either. Just something about unique or antique tools that need an appreciative home.

You did well! :thumbup:
 

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I believe you'd use the speeder with fork to remove keepers, retainer, spring, and inspect valve. Take fork off, put missing lap spinner on and lap valve, reverse to complete.
 
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I got nothin'.

Looking at the current listings for "Hol-Set" on Ebay, my best guess would be that the 15/16" deep-well was intended for spark plugs. Just a wild guess.

On the knurling: That R.F. Sedgley set that I started a new thread on a couple days ago seemed to have fairly aggressive knurling on the sockets. ( https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=378656 )
Maybe it's just the old "power of suggestion" thing at work, though.

Looks like selling prices are all over the place. A solo speeder (with no sockets) fetched $31.98 (incl. shipping) a year and a half ago: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-HO...ench-No-Sockets-Early-1920s-OLD-/182138573341

Great research. Something else to keep my eye out for.
 

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You're making me wish the danged lapper wasnt missing! :)

I believe the lapper probably was tossed long ago as aftermarket grinder/lapper sets abounded everywhere. The 1 with your set would only fit 1 size, whereas there were plenty different pin spreads for all the valves out there. Most mechanics i'd think went to suction cup or oscillator hand crank lappers. My guess yours was sized for model t ford. good luck with your project.
 
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Looking at the current listings for "Hol-Set" on Ebay...
Ha. I never even thought of looking there! Well, that was deflating. EDIT: Apparently these aren't as uncommon as I would've thought.

The 1 with your set would only fit 1 size, whereas there were plenty different pin spreads for all the valves out there.
Yup, unless it had a few different configurations on each side of the attachment. I've seen and found those before. Most of the classic hand grinders (Duro, Zim, etc) came with multiple attachments. But yes, the older sockets sets - those that included a valve grinder attachment, usually had one size.
 
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I did. First one that comes up. I see that none of them have the hanging hook and only one of them has the valve helper tool, so even if it's not quite as rare as I would've thought, I guess I can console myself with it being more complete and about 90% cheaper! :)
 
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Thanks to the keen eye of GJ member Otg and the generosity of collecting spirit from GJ member jc2043 (John), I now have the missing knuckle joint for my HOL-SET set. :pimpflash
 

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