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lightning02

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not sure if this is ok or not....

but has anyone come across any deals for C-clamps??

not looking for those cheap shits that break everytime.
 
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Harbour Freight! They have theirs on sale all the time. I have a ton of them and have NEVER broken one. Believe me I use them hard and have been surprised why some of them HAVEN'T broken. :)
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Yard sales/Estate sales.

Lemme give you some advice- Never pass up old skool US Made clamps at these sales. Talk the seller down if you must.

They ain't making clamps in the US any more. Jorgensen might make a few, but the sales from here on out will force them to throw everything to China to lower the price.

Jorgy C-clamps, pipe clamps, spring clamps and hand screws are the ultimate in those styles of clamps. None better. Last a lifetime and 3 more. But the price for them new is high and climbing.

Who will pay $9 for a 6" C-clamp that is orange and US Made when they can buy 3 of them at HF for the same $9?
 
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Who will pay $9 for a 6" C-clamp that is orange and US Made when they can buy 3 of them at HF for the same $9?

i would pay $9 for a good clamp that will last a lifetime since iv broken so many of them im just sick and tired of it.

i would like a set of 4 tbh. 4in/6in/8in/10 or 12in.
 

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I have a set I bought a while ago, brand is gibralter. Came with 2 each of 4" 6" and 8". They are nice and have held up great. I belive the set came from enco or industrial supply.

Another option is I recently bought 16 strong hand clamps from enco. They are in their hot deal magazine for a good deal and I used a 20% coupon too. They are very sturdy.
 
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yard sales. 99.9% of mine are US made. Pay a buck each. Maybe 2 bucks for the bigger ones. (They will get the evaporust treatment soon enough. Still moving from one shop to another.)
 

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Another vote for yard and estate sales. I've gotten them in near pristine condition to almost solid rust. one of the easiest "restores" going as a Wire wheel works great

Two more brands are Malleable Iron (yes it a brand) and Adjustable (later bought by Jorgenson and still in production and still made in the USA Are is the place if you are willing to buy new)

Larger ones missing the pad on he screw are an easy fix as you can buy new pad from I believe Mcmaster carr...

Other brands: Brownie, Jorgensen, and Stearns.
 

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Hey Outlaw, Some of those 5" Craftsmans I have are stamped "Malleable Iron" on one side....think they were just stamped C-man by them?
 

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Keep an eye out at flea markets and such, too. I found two 4 inch clamps at the local flea/antique market for a couple bucks each. They looked a little rough but cleaned up really nice in little to no time. Just keep your eyes on the lookout.
 

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One more for yard-sale finds. I recently scored a 12" Williams and a 6" Wilton, ~$15 between the two, but I don't mind spending HF retail on a US-made clamp, and that $10 Williams is worth easily 4x that - used, especially with the ***********. Too bad I can't find vises with such frequency!!
 

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C-clamps;
big ones, JH Williams and Bessey...... way below them Armstrong

little ones Cincinnati and Brownie

i have a sprung 10" JH Williams that i tried to straighten in a 25 ton press......I chickened out

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Hey Outlaw, Some of those 5" Craftsmans I have are stamped "Malleable Iron" on one side....think they were just stamped C-man by them?

Depends on the age I think. I have some older Malleable Iron that are good clamps, but I also have some Craftsman that say "Malleable " (No "Iron") but are are not the same standard...
 

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This is what you are looking for:

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(This is about 1/2 my C-clamp collection.)
 

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I've got clamps made by Hargrave, Armstrong, Cincinnati, Williams and Wilton (all second-hand) -- and also a bunch made by Harbor Freight. I can see a definite difference in manufacturing quality, but...

...what have you been doing that's actually breaking the things?

Probably hammering or using as a press with a cheater bar.. HF ones will break about 10 seconds before a US made old clamp but they both break if you abuse them.. :eyecrazy:
 

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I am a converted believer in CL, I picked up a box of antique/vintage Cincinnati clamps for way less than I could even get them from Harbor Freight. They are much nicer than the the discount import clamps I have.
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I am a converted believer in CL, I picked up a box of antique/vintage Cincinnati clamps for way less than I could even get them from Harbor Freight. They are much nicer than the the discount import clamps I have.
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Is there any other brand that makes a handle like that? If not then thats the brand I used that a friend had. Those are some very well build clamps. he wouldn't sell it to me for anything lol
 
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From what Ive been told its a pre-WWII design. I have seen others that have more of a thumb screw style end from that era also. Google image
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I don't use c clamps much, so most of mine are HF, I do however pick up USA made clamps at yard sales and such when the opportunity arises.
 

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The newer drop forged Wilton are good too .... but not as good as the older US made ones I got quite sometime ago ( NOS ).

Made in China if that matters.





 

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I have several dozen C clamps in different sizes, and I probably didn't buy more than a few of them new. It's almost impossible to not find them at garage sales, flea markets, antique stores with old tools, estate sales, etc. They're usually old, USA made, inexpensive, and in various states of condition. They're pretty easy to come by. Someone said earlier in this thread that they're easy to restore, and that's mostly true. The only time I don't buy them is when their frames are really bent or twisted badly. Missing pads are no big deal, as they can be easily replaced. To the OP I'd say that if you're not in a hurry for a specific size that you need now, I'd look out for good used clamps and build your collection over time. You can never have too many clamps.

Jim C.
 
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the ones iv used where junk china ones. they would always break/spit in the middle and leave me hanging with two useless ends lol everytime same things no matter where i bought them or what i did with them.

i wish i could get my hands on a set like in the picture above in the red crate. thoses did the job like it was nothing.

if anyone sees some and wants to grab them for me? i have no problem paying you back.
 

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Is there any other brand that makes a handle like that? If not then thats the brand I used that a friend had. Those are some very well build clamps. he wouldn't sell it to me for anything lol

Stearns, Hargrave others.. Brownie made thumbscrew models in the smaller clamps, may have use wing nut handles on larger.

I suspect those were all early 20th century, as I've NEVER seen one that didn't have old schools styling, and lettering and LOTS of "patina".
 

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Ive stalked ebay to find my larger ones 10"-12" and generally paid about $25 each shipped for new or nearly new Wilton clamps.

Small 6" ones I try to keep around $5 each shipped. Its best to buy them in lots. I dont have time to go to flea markets, estate sales, auctions or garage sales, but would love to if I had the time.

I always tell my mom to buy any clamp she sees while out 'shopping' and I have yet to see one. Either shes doesnt remember or they are not around my area.
 

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not sure if this is ok or not....

but has anyone come across any deals for C-clamps??

not looking for those cheap shits that break everytime.

Well, I'm one of those people that doesn't seem to find the garage sale deals etc. on good US clamps, so I've wound up with a collection of various ones from various stores.

Harbor Freight - Not too great, as I have twisted the frames on all of them. Cheap pricing.
Irwin (From Northern Tool) - A step above the Harbor Freight and a small one at that. Twisted these too. A little more than the HF ones, but not worth it.
Wilton (Imported version) - So far so good. Heavy, strong and no twisting. Cheaper than a US clamp, but still pricey.
Wilton and Hargrove US made - Heavy, strong and no twisting. Inherited these, but I know new they are pricey.
Craftsman (Imported) Ductile Iron - Not as heavy as a Wilton and similar, but they seem pretty solid, several steps above Harbor Freight. No twisting so far and not priced too bad.

I've gotten so I "test" any clamp before I buy it. I screw them down by hand pretty hard and watch to see if the frame twists or the pad wants to deflect/wander off the base. If they do, I skip them.
 

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Sometimes I wonder why useful threads peter out.

If anybody else looks back to this . . .

C-clamps can be made of drop-forged steel (strongest) Cast malleable or ductile iron (quite good and can be straightened if not too big) Common cast iron (breaks) or stamped steel (light duty, but light weight) or Aluminum (very light, strong but brittle in some brands).

In the drop-forged class, there are 4 main kinds: (1) "Heavy Duty" called bridge clamps by many, which are extremely heavy and usually only applicable to heavy steel fabrication and high-force machining. (2) "Standard Duty" These were called 100 style by Williams and Armstrong. They had shallow throats but were quite strong and heavy, with USS screws. (3) "***********" These are the 400 style by W & A that most people think of as forged c-clamps these days. They have acme screws and can still be had easily. There was (is?) (4) an 800 style that was like the 400 style but shallower throat. Any of these are good, if made in the USA by Williams, Armstrong, Wilton, Proto or Jorgensen. The bridge clamps are often overkill and will bend or break things by their weight!

I've also seen an older forged "44" clamp by Hargrave, like the 800 type and an extra-deep version of the 400 style called by some "square throat" with depth = opening.
Wilton super-junior clamps are small forged clamps. Last batch I bought were OK functionally but made in India.

Cast malleable/ductile clamps came in MANY styles. The Carriage clamp style is more robust, still made by Pony but hard to find. Pony makes the "regular" mid-duty cast iron style that is fine for woodwork, too and not terribly expensive and can be found in many hardware stores still. They have several very heavy cast styles for fabrication and machine shop, but other than McM, G-r, Fast-l or old industrial supplies cannot be had new easily.

I like a few aluminum clamps for holding light things together when the weight of a steel or iron clamp might distort the assembly. I've seen these in Exact, C'man and a few other brands, but not new recently.
 

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I have a couple older Wilton's...but I got a lot of mine from Northern Tool when they were clearancing them out. The most stress my clamps will see is pressing a brake caliper back in. I have a press for a reason. C-clamps are made to hold things in place...not to press with.
 

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Another vote for yard and estate sales. I've gotten them in near pristine condition to almost solid rust. one of the easiest "restores" going as a Wire wheel works great

Two more brands are Malleable Iron (yes it a brand) and Adjustable (later bought by Jorgenson and still in production and still made in the USA Are is the place if you are willing to buy new)

Larger ones missing the pad on he screw are an easy fix as you can buy new pad from I believe Mcmaster carr...

Other brands: Brownie, Jorgensen, and Stearns.

I'll have to check Mcmaster-Carr then, since I bought one a couple weeks ago at the flea market that the pad was shop "fixed" by way of replacement with a stack of washers.
 

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I was just at J. Fazzio in south Jersey. They had 18" used 100-style forged clamps for about $35. One was missing a pad. Lots more too. They get these industrial surplus lots from time to time. They also had a 10" or 12" bridge clamp somebody painted yellow polka dots on. I don't really need any more clamps. At this point I'm mostly just "making pairs" of ones I've picked up single over the years.
 

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I barely use C-clamps but they seem to find me. However I was just going through mine earlier oddly enough. Pony, Proto, Adjustable, Unbreakable, Cincinnati Tool and a few random china stamped ones. I can't tell a lick of difference in what their capabilities are. Never put much torque on them. Maybe if I were joining some warped steel that my welding vise grips couldn't manage...but just never have a use for C-clamps. They are cheep and everywhere (old ones) at the local fleamarket here. I think in the last 15 years I have used the 10" a few times as a valve spring compressor and a smaller one to press calipers once or twice and I think once to clamp some parts I was welding.
 

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Another vote for yard and estate sales. I've gotten them in near pristine condition to almost solid rust. one of the easiest "restores" going as a Wire wheel works great

Two more brands are Malleable Iron (yes it a brand) and Adjustable (later bought by Jorgenson and still in production and still made in the USA Are is the place if you are willing to buy new)

Larger ones missing the pad on he screw are an easy fix as you can buy new pad from I believe Mcmaster carr...

Other brands: Brownie, Jorgensen, and Stearns.

Concur

Jorgensen and Cincinnati were the 'standards' in woodworking clamps.

For most metalworking/fabrication, look for the 'medium duty' clamps in the Armstrong, Williams, and Billings makes. (some will be marked 'Proto' or Wilton'....dunno who actually made them)

'Medium duty' industrial grade c-clamps appear 'heavy duty' to woodworkers.

The real 'heavy duty' clamps are much heavier/stronger, and use a wrench square on the pressure screw, not a sliding handle. Unless you are doing heavy steel lifting or fabrication, where their high strength is a necessity, they will be a bit clumsy to use.

Edited......as a generality, light duty clamps suitable for woodworking will have square or acme fast threads on the pressure screw. Medium and heavy duty industrial grade clamps will have a V-thread, almost always standard USS/NC for their thread diameter.

cheers

Carla
 
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