Cable tv, Internet, security to 50’ away detached garage?

[naturalgas]

Guys & Gals, I’m ready to run low voltage to my new Garage 50’ from basement to inside garage. I have 3 one inch conduits buried that I just pulled string through. I will need 110’ of coax cable to get to other side of basement for cable tv hookup and a little less for Internet. My question is what should I use and where should I buy it? Also any other lines I should run. I want to run everything for now and future once so I can get my Sheetrock up. I have no clue when it to this stuff. Also I’m mounting a tv on wall above where wiring comes into garage so I’m thinking is there one box I can put all wiring into and close wall or do I need several boxes for each application. Thanks in advance. NG.


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[dogdog]

maybe 2 coax (1 for backup) 2 (cat5E or cat6) and 2 of those multi strand alarm wires or general purpose wire, in case you want to control something over something remotely?

 

[75gmck25]

You need to buy outdoor rated coax and network cable, since buried conduit is still considered a wet location.

I would run 2 RG-58 (or similar) COAX cables. The reasoning is that you normally need one cable for inbound (from cable company, antenna, etc.), and may need one (or more) for outbound to another device. For example you could run a camera in the garage and feed the output back to a security system in the house.
The cable components in many structured media boxes are just multi-port splitters. Since I doubt you plan to put a lot of TVs in your garage, you may not need any device to split out cable. However, you may need an amplifier on the house end if you have a long run of cable.

I would run a minimum of 2 cat5 or cat6 cables for your network. Wi-fi might work to your garage, but streaming or running backups is much better over a wired connection. In the garage I would use a network module (has multiple RG-11 jacks, looks similar to phone company punch-down module) to cover any connection needs in the garage. Most modules start out with 6 jacks, which is probably more than you need.

You will also need a network switch (better than a router) in the garage, if you have multiple connections. Wired switches are quite cheap these days, but I would use a wireless switch with four hard-wire connections to cover both wired and wireless. Some switches allow you configure them to separate streaming data (watching Netflix or Amazon Prime?) from your other network traffic, using virtual LANs (VLANs) or by using Quality of Service (QoS) settings for certain ports.

Its also a good idea to pull one cat5 or cat6 cable for a telephone connection, just in case you need it later. In the meantime, there are more and more devices that can distribute signal over cat5/6, so you may find other uses for it. For example, AT&T uVerse can send your cable signal over cat5.

You may want to look at the structured media panels from Leviton (and other companies). Some are preconfigured with phone/internet/cable components, while others are just a shell that allows you to add the wiring components.



Bruce

 

[wyliesdiesels]

Typically you would use RG6 for the coax. However, 110' is pretty long so i would go with RG-8 or -11.

Definitely use outdoor rated wire.

And yes a couple of CAT5e or 6 cables.

 

[wyliesdiesels]

I would run 2 RG-58 (or similar) COAX cables. The reasoning is that you normally need one cable for inbound (from cable company, antenna, etc.), and may need one (or more) for outbound to another device. For example you could run a camera in the garage and feed the output back to a security system in the house.

RG-58 is the wrong type of cable for cable TV or CCTV. It is 50ohm and used for RF transmission typically on microwave radios.

For cable TV, you would use RG-6 at a minimum though OPs length is pretty long and may need larger cable.

RG-58 will not work for CCTV cams either. Analog coax cams use RG-59 and typically diamese is ran because it has power and coax all on one cable.

 

[Blk88GT]

A couple CAT5s and whatever your TV setup needs will suffice. You can get CAT5 at Home Depot, Menards, Lowes etc.

Rather than put another switch in the garage, I have a managed gigabit switch in the house and ran an access point out in the shop. A couple boxes and keystone jacks and you're good to go.

It really depends how far you want to take it and what your needs/budget are. I've used the "retail" type stuff for years but got tired of having to reset them and have them flake out after 2-3 years. I run all Ubiquiti hardware now.

 

[Miss the Pontiacs]

maybe 2 coax (1 for backup) 2 (cat5E or cat6) and 2 of those multi strand alarm wires or general purpose wire, in case you want to control something over something remotely?

Good suggestion. Would be a good idea to make these direct burial cables as well. I would add a few strands of single mode fibre, you never know what the future will bring. The strands don’t have to be terminated. If you want you can check out Lanshack for terminated fibre. Only problem with preterminated ends is then you have to choose between a multitude of combinations for connectors.
To purchase find a telco guy he would know where to locate a subcontractor who would be able to supply you the materials.
I purchase most of my materials from Wesco or Nedco but there is a host of electrical/data suppliers to choose from.

 

[Falcon67]

I went through all that to pull RG6 about 120' when we had Dish to place a Joey in the shop. No problems, fine signal. We've since told Cable/Sat to take their equipment and go home. It's all streaming now, so all I need in the shop is the Chromecast, a cat 5 cable and a wifi AP.

 

[75gmck25]

Glad someone quickly caught my error about using RG-58. I've been doing both cable and RF work, and it just happened to be the first spec that came to mind.

Bruce

 

[wyliesdiesels]

Glad someone quickly caught my error about using RG-58. I've been doing both cable and RF work, and it just happened to be the first spec that came to mind.

Bruce

Yeah in addition to electrical and low voltage, I also work on microwave radios- mostly low power some high power.

Have ran quite a bit of LMR400 in my day.

 

[naturalgas]

Thanks guys, so I need R8 coax 2 runs, and Cat6 3 runs and I’ll run telephone wiring I already have left over from house build.


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[wyliesdiesels]

You need min RG6.

Also, all the wire should be direct burial rated since conduits get water in them.

I doubt the phone wire ran inside your house is direct burial rated.

BTW you can run an analog phone/POTS line on CAT6.