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You haven't tested what I consider to be the most useful ratchets of them all and that's the impacting air ratchet. They are powerful, small and fit places the cordless can't and best of all don't break your wrist. I know SPAir makes these, as I have two of them, and Harbor Freight either still does or use to make one. Our mutual friends at Astro (your employer) make these as well.
 
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Back in the 1970s, the 3/8" drive air ratchet and butterfly impact wrench were my constant go-to tools. With a double swivel connector and lightweight hoses, you could get an awful lot of disassembly and assembly jobs done quickly. Add a 1/2" impact wrench, and you were pretty much set to go. I loved the noise and the feel of those pneumatic tools.
 

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You haven't tested what I consider to be the most useful ratchets of them all and that's the impacting air ratchet. They are powerful, small and fit places the cordless can't and best of all don't break your wrist. I know SPAir makes these, as I have two of them, and Harbor Freight either still does or use to make one. Our mutual friends at Astro (your employer) make these as well.

Forgive the ignorance all the way around, but I've never heard of a "impacting air ratchet". Impact wrenches and ratchets sure, even right angle impacts, but never a true air ratchet that has an impact mechanism.

Speaking of which, it's always been a grip of mine when people complain about ratchet, air or battery, not providing enough torque or lack ability to breakaway bolts/nuts... That is not their purpose, they are ratchets, not impacts.

Also, I was unaware that the TTC works for/at Astro? Is this true or supposed to be some sort of secret? Again, news to me.
 

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Forgive the ignorance all the way around, but I've never heard of a "impacting air ratchet". Impact wrenches and ratchets sure, even right angle impacts, but never a true air ratchet that has an impact mechanism.

Speaking of which, it's always been a grip of mine when people complain about ratchet, air or battery, not providing enough torque or lack ability to breakaway bolts/nuts... That is not their purpose, they are ratchets, not impacts.

Also, I was unaware that the TTC works for/at Astro? Is this true or supposed to be some sort of secret? Again, news to me.
Yeah the SP air and Astro 1128 are examples of air ratchets with impact mechanisms, higher RPM and more torque but a different type of reactionless TQ. HF sells a reactionless too i believe that's basically a similar idea.
But yeah, we weight torque pretty low on importance for ratchets.
It's not a secret that I'm (1/3 of TTC) working in product dev for Astro. Look at the description of any video, or the pinned comments as well. Try to point conflicts of interest in relevant videos, but lucky for us most of the testing doesn't come down to impressions
 
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Yeah the SP air and Astro 1128 are examples of air ratchets with impact mechanisms, higher RPM and more torque but a different type of reactionless TQ. HF sells a reactionless too i believe that's basically a similar idea.
But yeah, we weight torque pretty low on importance for ratchets.
It's not a secret that I'm (1/3 of TTC) working in product dev for Astro. Look at the description of any video, or the pinned comments as well. Try to point conflicts of interest in relevant videos, but lucky for us most of the testing doesn't come down to impressions
I like Astro's ratchets, in spite of their having too small of handle girth for my big hands (me) and Chris having a hatred for comfort grips which would help in that regard, but why haven't you guys come out with flex head, or better yet locking flex head ratchets? That's what most people currently use or at least that's what I primarily use. Non flex head ratchets are so last decade. I find it funny that Astro is the king of flex head impacts but has zero with respect to flex head ratchets.
 
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I like Astro's ratchets, in spite of Chris having a hatred for comfort grips, but why haven't you guys come out with flex head, or better yet locking flex head ratchets? That's what most people currently use or at least that's what I primarily use. Non flex head are so last decade.
I have the Husky reactionless ratchet from HD which in my estimation is the same same as Harbor Freight's and maybe even the Aircat. It's been great, but it seems like the new Dewalt cordless ratchets advertise higher torque than even the reactionless (impacting) ratchets so maybe not the Torque kings anymore.
 

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Yeah the SP air and Astro 1128 are examples of air ratchets with impact mechanisms, higher RPM and more torque but a different type of reactionless TQ. HF sells a reactionless too i believe that's basically a similar idea.
But yeah, we weight torque pretty low on importance for ratchets.
It's not a secret that I'm (1/3 of TTC) working in product dev for Astro. Look at the description of any video, or the pinned comments as well. Try to point conflicts of interest in relevant videos, but lucky for us most of the testing doesn't come down to impressions

Learn something new every day. I've been a mechanic and "tool guy" for 6+ years, and literally the first time I've ever heard of such a thing...

I see in Astro's breakdown there is a hammer mechanism assembly, but interestingly as for the HF version, I fail to see a hammer or what otherwise would cause it to act as an impact.


 

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Learn something new every day. I've been a mechanic and "tool guy" for 6+ years, and literally the first time I've ever heard of such a thing...

I see in Astro's breakdown there is a hammer mechanism assembly, but interestingly as for the HF version, I fail to see a hammer or what otherwise would cause it to act as an impact.


Haven't handled a HF, but parts (in diagram order) 24, 54, 58, 23, 60 & 22 make up what's called a twin pin ball and cam sprung impact mechanism, like what's used in the Aircat 1250K scaled WAY down.
 

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I have the Husky reactionless ratchet from HD which in my estimation is the same same as Harbor Freight's and maybe even the Aircat. It's been great, but it seems like the new Dewalt cordless ratchets advertise higher torque than even the reactionless (impacting) ratchets so maybe not the Torque kings anymore.
I never thought of reactionless ratchets as being torque kings. They just save your knuckles.
 
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For their size they have fairly good torque (say 50 ft-lb). But their major advantage, and to me it is a major advantage, is that they don't mash your hands against stuff like conventional air ratchets do and strong cordless ratchets might. Size to weight and power are extremely good.
 

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I never thought of reactionless ratchets as being torque kings. They just save your knuckles.
Yes, but whether it was the goal or not, the impacting models did have the highest torque numbers for a while. I realize it's really not about torque with air ratchets but thr fact that every company advertised their torque specs and there seems to be an ongoing game of one-upmanship so it clearly matters to somebody.
 
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