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I just got T mobile 5G Gateway home internet. My only option was Hughes safelight before. I want to get wi fi cameras that will work with T mobile 5G Gateway internet. I contacted Nest, Bling, and Arlo to see if they are compatible and waiting for replies. I'm hoping someone her has T mobile that can help out. Thanks
 
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Are there any data caps? That's usually the one limitation if using wifi cameras and wanting to access them away from your property. But most cameras are very flexible in what the camera sends to the internet, and when.

Aside from that, there's no reason any of those cameras would not work with T-Mobile home internet.
 
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Are there any data caps? That's usually the one limitation if using wifi cameras and wanting to access them away from your property. But most cameras are very flexible in what the camera sends to the internet, and when.

Aside from that, there's no reason any of those cameras would not work with T-Mobile home internet.
T Mobile is 5G and most work on 2.4. I found out that Nest is 5G and 2.4, so it should work. I'll order from Amazon on Cyber Monday.
My T-Mobile is unlimited, fast, and cheap ! The Hughes satellite was limited ,slow, and $110 a month. T-Mobile is only $30 since I have my phones with them. Thank you.
 

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T Mobile is 5G and most work on 2.4. I found out that Nest is 5G and 2.4, so it should work. I'll order from Amazon on Cyber Monday.

I think you are confusing and mixing terms. Wi-Fi radios operate on different frequencies. For awhile people used letter designations like B, G, N, etc. Then it become more common to see 2.4ghz or 5ghz. Most recently 6 and 6E is the latest and greatest. Each band offers different advantages. For instance 2.4ghz is going to be slower (about 100mb max) but often has an extended signal range. 5ghz is faster (about 400mb) but typically doesn’t have as large a coverage footprint. So sometimes when going through walls, long distances, etc then a 2.4ghz is preferred because it’s more stable vs faster. And depending on the device you may not need maximum speeds. As point of reference 6E is getting close to 1gb wireless speeds in optimal conditions.

But again, these are the radios that allow devices to communicate with each other.

The 5G that T-Mobile offers is referring to speed. How much speed is up for debate but generally it’s what I classify as high speed. I have T-Mobile phone service and under 5G is also 5G UC (which means ultra coverage). The latter is faster than the base 5G. To my knowledge T-Mobile doesn’t charge for UC, it’s more of like you are closer to the hub and get a stronger/faster signal.

For reference, I have 1gb fiber up/down at my house. It currently feeds to an older Eero wireless system that I dislike. The Eero’s are only capable of max 5ghz speeds, so around 400-500mb max in real world wireless. I understand marketing hype says faster but it’s just that….marketing. So while my ISP pushes me 1gb service the most I can get through my Eeros on wireless is roughly half.

Now the Eero allows me to setup a Wi-Fi network based on the 5ghz or 2.4ghz bands. I typically keep my less secure devices and guests on the 2.4ghz network. Some devices such as video streaming I keep on the 5ghz network for increased speeds (less buffering). To get my max 1gb speed I currently have to use a hard wired connection. And while many of my devices are 6/6E capable, their speeds are throttled by the Eero 5ghz ceiling. They make new Eeros that are 6/6E capable but I dislike and going a different route with a more sophisticated setup.

For fun, I ran some speed tests at my house. Where I am located wireless strength isn’t great and using my 1gb fiber connection I pulled about 200mb down and up. I switched to my cell service (T-Mobile 5G UC) and pulled about 335mb down but only about 3mb up. The fastest cell service I ever got was when I lived out of state in a large metro with Verizon’s version of 5G UC on the iPhone 12 Pro Max. It pulled over 1gb down in the parking lot of Chipotle while we were picking up dinner. That was crazy fast and the best speed test I ever got. In that area I got others that were 800-900mb consistently but that wasn’t typical for Verizon as a whole as their normal 5G was around 500mb or so.

Hopefully this provides some clarity. Big takeaway is T-Mobile 5G is line speed. The 5ghz and 2.4ghz of each device you are worried about is talking about radio frequencies. You can run a 2.4ghz radio on T-Mobile 5G service; however, as described above the max speed will be less than if that device had a 5ghz radio. However the advantage may be increased coverage range.
 

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Excellent explanation above by nolimits76 ^

The east way to think of it is 3G/4G/5G in cellular terms refers to 'generations' rather than frequencies. Plus each generation has specific frequency ranges within the RF spectrum. Most 5G ranges are in the higher freqs, thus higher bandwidth (faster transfer).

The 'g' in Wi-Fi networks refers to actual frequencies in gigahertz, like 2.4 and 5 as explained above.
 

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+1 on the explanations given above. I think what Wandrur mentioned is a clear, concise way of putting it.

5G cell service is confusingly similar sounding to 5.0 ghz wifi, but they are totally unrelated in terms of this question. It's like Delta Faucets vs Delta Airlines; same name, different things.

Are all these cameras going to be close to your house/router?
 

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What router are you using at your house to distribute the T-Mobile signal?
It's built into the T-Mobile gadget.

You get a gadget from T-Mo on your doorstep, stick it in a window where it can slurp up 5G (YMMV, of course; you have to live in a place with a decent 5G cell signal), and it spits out Wifi. You configure the gadget and its router functions using an app on your phone.

And yes, it can do both 5GHz and 2.4Ghz at the same time. I have an older 2.4GHz camera that connects just fine, but the rest of my gadgets are 5GHz.

It also has ethernet ports on the back; my TV is plugged in directly because it's a cheap TV and its wifi is sketchy. You could also use your own router if you really wanted to.

I'm quite happy with mine, and I'm getting better speed than cable for a flat $50/month unlimited, vs $200 for Comcrap.
 
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I have 10 Blink cameras between my house and shop and using T-Mobile Home Internet. It runs the cameras just fine.
 
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What router are you using at your house to distribute the T-Mobile signal?
T-mobile provides the 5G gateway with WIFI router built in. I have mine jacked into a Google mesh system for better WIFI distribution in a big house. Around here we get around 240mb down on the T-Mobile home internet. My nephew gets closer to 400mb at his home. That's tested over the WIFI.
 
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Thank you all for your responses. You guys are better the the manufactures I contacted.
No router required as was mentioned.
 

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Sounds like you got what you needed. But I did want to take a quick second to follow up on the router. It sounds like the T-Mobile gateway has dual functionality in the fact it can decipher the signal from the mothership and then also do wired and wireless routing.

I had a similar setup when I was on cable internet. My experience has been that can be good or bad depending on the specific device they provide you. It definitely saves some bucks but probably has select features.

If you find yourself needing more options you can always convert their gizmo to decode only and use a different router. Depending what router you can get pretty complex in your setup. I won’t bore you with too much geek speak but I mention it because some of the combo devices don’t offer different bands/frequencies which is easily fixable by using the right router.

Please post back once you get setup to let us know how it turned out!
 
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Sounds like you got what you needed. But I did want to take a quick second to follow up on the router. It sounds like the T-Mobile gateway has dual functionality in the fact it can decipher the signal from the mothership and then also do wired and wireless routing.

I had a similar setup when I was on cable internet. My experience has been that can be good or bad depending on the specific device they provide you. It definitely saves some bucks but probably has select features.

If you find yourself needing more options you can always convert their gizmo to decode only and use a different router. Depending what router you can get pretty complex in your setup. I won’t bore you with too much geek speak but I mention it because some of the combo devices don’t offer different bands/frequencies which is easily fixable by using the right router.

Please post back once you get setup to let us know how it turned out!
I ordered the Nest camera and will arrive Wednesday. I'm gonna get it setup and I will still have time to take advantage of the Cyber Monday sale. The Hughes satellite was terrible but that is all that is avaiable, I'm in a rural area. It was slow, weather affected, and $110.00 a month.
T Mobile has been amazingly fast, unlimited, and only $30.00 a month since we have their phone plan too.
This Gateway device is wireless and plugs into a 110 outlet, no cables, and nothing outside. It works all over the house and on all devices.
We are really spoiled now. I will update when it's setup.
 

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I’ve had friends with satellite internet and I know their experience was horrible and similar to yours. I can’t really recall anyone liking them truthfully but as pointed out it’s better than nothing.

I can see how this would be an upgrade.

With a more reliable connection you may find yourself needing advanced options. When/if that happens there are options, just ask.

In regards to the Nest cameras I will be interested in your feedback. The previous owners of our home left a combo doorbell and camera unit. I was surprised at how much I like that feature and looking to expand our camera system as well although I’m leaning more towards Ubiquiti solutions as I have a more complex setup with pfSense at the head and Ubiquiti switches, AP’s, etc behind it.

The one dislike I had with my Nest camera was that functionality during the free trial was great. But the free version makes it almost not worthwhile. The subscription isn’t high cost but annoying if I am willing to self host drive space for footage, etc.
 

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I ordered the Nest camera and will arrive Wednesday. I'm gonna get it setup and I will still have time to take advantage of the Cyber Monday sale. The Hughes satellite was terrible but that is all that is avaiable, I'm in a rural area. It was slow, weather affected, and $110.00 a month.
T Mobile has been amazingly fast, unlimited, and only $30.00 a month since we have their phone plan too.
This Gateway device is wireless and plugs into a 110 outlet, no cables, and nothing outside. It works all over the house and on all devices.
We are really spoiled now. I will update when it's setup.

We're the same way, with no other options except satellite internet. We used Sprint/T-Mobile phone hotspots for the last 3-4 years before our area finally receiving TMHI. It's been a great option for us, and we regularly get 500 Mb/s down.
 
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I received the Nest indoor wired camera today. Wasn't bad at all getting everything setup on our two phones. The video is really clear as they mentioned, sounds good, great coverage, and works with my T Mobile 5G Gateway internet. I ordered the Nest battery doorbell camera tonight. Today is suppose to be the last day of their sale so I bought it. It will be perfect to view front door, garage , and driveway. Thanks again for your input fellas .
 
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