Campbell-Hausfeld FL1000

[jfelbab]

Anyone have any info on this single stage compressor? Operation and maintenance info?

I just got it from my dad who never used it. It's like brand new. I changed the oil with Mobile1 10w30. It has a 3 gallon tank and runs continuously. No gages. It develops a good amount of air pressure.

Any suggestions on how to maintain it or should I just plan on getting something newer?

Tnx,
Jim

 

[kartracer55]

1 suggesetion.... Drain that oil and Use compressor oil. My eaton manual, as well as many people I know stress how important it is to use a designated compressor oil. Something to due with the pressure and how the oil molecules react. Automotive oil is horribly for your compressor. Ill post up a link to a thread I found on this on another board.

Jim

 

[jfelbab]

1 suggesetion.... Drain that oil and Use compressor oil. My eaton manual, as well as many people I know stress how important it is to use a designated compressor oil. Something to due with the pressure and how the oil molecules react. Automotive oil is horribly for your compressor. Ill post up a link to a thread I found on this on another board.

Jim

Thanks for the response.

I found this on the Campbell-Hausfeld web site in a PDF doc labeled single-stage portable operating manual. This is kind of a generic manual.

Use SAE 30 industrial grade air compressor oil or full synthetic motor oil like Mobile 1 10W30.

They go on to warn against using regular dino motor oil as the additives can cause valve deposits and reduce pump life so I thought Mobile 1 would be acceptable. Then again this compressor, while virtually unused, is old and may not be able to handle synthetic oil.

My larger concerns are the lack of gages and the cheesy sponge used for an air filter. I'm not sure it's worth putting much money into it as newer technology oil-less compressors are so inexpensive. I see I can get some gages and a regulator pretty cheap though. I do like how quiet this model is.

I really only need a compressor for airing up tires and as an air gun for cleaning. I suspect I really want an oil-less for use as an air gun.

 

[iiibdsiil]

Everything I've heard has been you don't want an oil-less compressor.

 

[kartracer55]

Well oiless compressors are cheap to make, so they sell them cheaper. You wont find any oiless compressors in a big shop. They cant put out the air that a oiled compressor can, and they are VERY loud.

If this is an old compressor, Id keep it. Chances are its built much better than the lower end models of today. You also dont need to use synthetic. I believ you can get castor compressor oil.

Jim

 

[l_bilyk]

jfelbab, oil-less compressors are complete junk. They spin much faster, resulting in more noise and shorter lifetimes

I think the best oil to use is campbell compressor oil. It's what i use in mine. I heard about the deposits thing but i'm not sure whether i believe it. One thing you DON'T want to do is use motor oil in air tools.

 

[l_bilyk]

Also, you can get a mini regulator with guage for about 15 dollars. It should bolt on without a problem

 

[kartracer55]

Just make sure it can handle the CFM your compressor puts out, and that the input/output is no smaller than 1/4.

Heres an oil thread...
http://www.shopfloortalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70&highlight=compressor+oil

The guy giving the info is an industrial chemical engineer (or something like that) and he insists that if you cnat find compressor oil, you can use ATF.

Jim

 

[jfelbab]

Thanks for all the great info guys.

 

[Matt Harwood]

Was your mention of a "3 gallon" tank a typo? If not, 3 gallons is a portable compressor for running air nailers and other low-demand tools on a worksite. It won't do anything in a garage except maybe fill tires. You probably can't run a grinder or impact wrench with it. If you need it for running tools, invest in the biggest compressor you can possibly afford--even my 80 gallon, 7.5 HP unit runs pretty much continuously when I use a die grinder or DA sander.

My 2-stage compressor's manual also recommends Mobil 1, which is what I've used for three years without a problem, and I run my compressor HARD.

 

[kartracer55]

Was your mention of a "3 gallon" tank a typo? If not, 3 gallons is a portable compressor for running air nailers and other low-demand tools on a worksite. It won't do anything in a garage except maybe fill tires. You probably can't run a grinder or impact wrench with it. If you need it for running tools, invest in the biggest compressor you can possibly afford--even my 80 gallon, 7.5 HP unit runs pretty much continuously when I use a die grinder or DA sander.

My 2-stage compressor's manual also recommends Mobil 1, which is what I've used for three years without a problem, and I run my compressor HARD.

Good point. The first time I read his post I didnt reallypick up on any implications of him using it for anything other than this.

As for your compressor, What kind is it? A true 7.5 hp compressor should have no problem running a grinder... my 5 will run one continuously without cycling all that often.

Jim

 

[Matt Harwood]

I have a Husky unit, and I doubt their claim of 7.5 HP. It's probably closer to 4. It's rated at 15+ CFM @ 90 PSI, but I doubt that number, too. If I'm grinding with a cutoff wheel or die grinder for any extended period, it'll keep up without much trouble, but it runs almost continuously. Next time I'll buy a real compressor instead of trying to do it on the cheap with a Home Depot special...

 

[kartracer55]

Matt, 15 cfm is still alot of air, but not quite as much as a true 7.5 hp should be making. What size breaker does it run on?

Jim

 

[Matt Harwood]

It draws 22-23 amps according to the label on the motor, but it's on a 30-amp breaker. That isn't enough for a true 7.5 hp motor. Whatever it is, it's getting all the power it needs.

I'm not complaining--for $800 it's a hell of a compressor--but I know that it isn't putting out what the label claims. Plus die grinders and the like are air hogs--their ratings (as I learned on this very forum) are typically for a 25% duty cycle. I'm running them at 100% for minutes at a time. It probably takes a lot of compressor to keep up with that.

 

[kartracer55]

You have a 5 hp compressor... My compressor is a 5 and draws 24amps.

As for air tools, you need to look at Cfm @ full load. The numbers that say "5cfm" and "4cfm" are BS, because The tool will only run on a compressor thart puts of 4 or 5 cfm for less than a minute, and then you will be fighting a downhill battle while the compressor to plays catchup.

Jim

 

[Jay H 237]

I have a 26 gallon CH compressor that I've used Mobil Rarus 427 air compressor oil in since I got it 10 years ago. The manual recommends a SAE 30 oil which is what the Rarus 427 is. I've been buying it through Grainger although MSC, McMaster-Carr and other places probably carry it also.

One of these days I'll upgrade though. When I first bought it I didn't have many air tools, and even though it was more compressor that I needed at the time I decided to buy the biggest one on wheels I could find. Now with all the air tools I've bought over the past few years I realize how underpowered it is now.
I have to take many "coffee breaks" when I use my sandblaster!

 

[kartracer55]

Well, when/if you decide to upgrade, just give us your budget and well give you input as to the ebst abng for your buck.



Jim

 

[l_bilyk]

It draws 22-23 amps according to the label on the motor, but it's on a 30-amp breaker. That isn't enough for a true 7.5 hp motor. Whatever it is, it's getting all the power it needs.

I'm not complaining--for $800 it's a hell of a compressor--but I know that it isn't putting out what the label claims. Plus die grinders and the like are air hogs--their ratings (as I learned on this very forum) are typically for a 25% duty cycle. I'm running them at 100% for minutes at a time. It probably takes a lot of compressor to keep up with that.

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