Can anyone date this Wilton ?

[doubletroubledan]

Picked this up today . Its probably a 41 , but not sure.

 

[woody 73]

Did you first try sweet talk followed by roses, and last get his/her phone number ?

 

[Oldtuleguy]

I find if start with a little shoulder massage, then some schnapps....

 

[Roberts210]

Candy is dandy, but liquor is quicker.

If you pull the dynamic jaw all the way out you will be able to see a date stamped on the slide.

 

[doubletroubledan]

there is no date on the slide. That is why i believe it is an early one.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

interesting

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Go to the Stickie at the top of the vintage forum. Find the 'Wilton vise dating' thread in the Index. Click on it. Go to page 53, post #1045. Click on the link provided in that post. It's an excellent succinct summary of information scattered throughout the thread on how to ID the four early pre-date stamp Wilton models.

 

[doubletroubledan]

I have gone through at least 20 of the 54 pages and none like it have been found. I have also looked at hundreds of google images and many more on Ebay.
The only one like it is from the Fox/Jet article .
https://jet.fotcnc.com/articles/wilton-history.html

I am pretty good at research and this one has me stumped so far.
That is why i asked.

 

[Fierljeppen]

Your Wilton machinist vise is an early version, but not from 1941. The only model Wilton advertised in 1941, was a 4-inch model weighing 37 lbs, including the swivel base, which would have had the acorn swivel nuts.

There's more of that style out there than you may realize.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

I have gone through at least 20 of the 54 pages and none like it have been found. I have also looked at hundreds of google images and many more on Ebay.
The only one like it is from the Fox/Jet article .
https://jet.fotcnc.com/articles/wilton-history.html

I am pretty good at research and this one has me stumped so far.
That is why i asked.

Between the main vise thread up on the General board and the Wilton Vise Dating thread on this board, at least a dozen vises made between 1941 and 1/1945 have been posted here on GJ. The first one that shows up on the Wilton Vise Dating thread can be found on page 6, post #103. But I recommend you follow the directions I gave you above, repeated here again below. It talks through the features of the four early (1941-1945) models. The PAT PENDS/PAT PENS with the looping line were the earliest. Yours, like the rendering in the article you posted, came later, just before they started stamping the mfg'ing date on the slide key.

Go to the Stickie at the top of the vintage forum. Find the 'Wilton vise dating' thread in the Index. Click on it. Go to page 53, post #1045. Click on the link provided in that post. It's an excellent succinct summary of information scattered throughout the thread on how to ID the four early pre-date stamp Wilton models.

 

[doubletroubledan]

I appreciate all the information you have given me. The vise is a 4.5 inch jaw 55 pounds. So as far as i can tell , most likely it was produced during the war , and probably 1944-1945.
Hopefully someone can narrow it down even more .
Restoration starts soon.

 

[Shiftless]

What level of restoration are you planning?
I see a fair amount of original paint on that vise.
Are you going to put it to work or will it be sitting on a shelf looking good?
Consider just cleaning it to see how much paint is under that dirt and then applying boiled linseed oil. “It’s only original once”

I have a 4 incher from that era that had ugly paint. I stripped it and applied a custom color matched paint. Sorry... no pic right now of the finished product. It’s a kind of dirty light sage green color.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

I see a fair amount of original paint on that vise.

Some of us don't repaint even when there's an unfair amount of original 'hospital green' paint left after carefully removing the fugly coats (like the babysh*t brown on this 1-46) often found on top of these beauts.

 

[exmaxima1]

I agree with the data—- that looks like a mid 40s model to me.

 

[Shiftless]

Here is a pic comparing the paint color I had mixed up to match what I found on an original early Chicago era vise (on the 3HD in front) with the Rustoleum Satin Sage paint on the 350 to the right.

Very close to my eye but slightly “dirtier” on the front one.

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[Private Lugnutz]

I've seen your comparison shots before. It's the best match I have seen.

 

[Shiftless]

I've seen your comparison shots before. It's the best match I have seen.

Thanks
I would still rather have an old one with original paint even 50%

 

[doubletroubledan]

I can try to leave it be. we'll see when i get it cleaned up how it looks .

 

[TailGunner3000]

Not likely WWII. Wilton vises from that era still had the "pat pending" casting.

 

[TailGunner3000]

there is no date on the slide. That is why i believe it is an early one.

Did you remove the key and look in the slot? Early models were stamped there.

 

[doubletroubledan]

I am not sure how to remove the key . it is in there pretty tight .