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All it says is replace with malor 161-193 under cover which is start capacitor also has no tool plate am I better off making my own or making one.
 

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Definitely not a Baldor. The wheel guard is stamped metal and not cast iron like most old school US made quality grinders. I would say it's more recent, between 60's - late 80's, maybe 90's. It could be from Taiwan or US, it's probably a nice grinder but I would immediately remove those well used and banged up looking stone wheel before turning it on again. You definitely do not want those breaking apart while on, its a safety hazard.
It looks like that grinder would make a good buffer/flap wheel/wire wheel...etc machine once you remove the right wheel guard. I forget who use to make them but google vintage Stanley grinders, it sort looks like one. Also check out Walker Turner grinders also similar but both mentioned have heavy cast wheel guards and this one was most likely made after those existed.
 
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I was hoping for Baldor but had my doubts a buddy gave it to me and I rewired it and pulled stones and turned it on has a howl to it probably not worth messing with
 
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That does look a lot like it I will research and see if it’s any good
 

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That's the M-F model 77 in that catalog sheet and it is drastically different: note the cast iron guards (not sheet metal), the way the guards are mounted on rotational sleeves (not fixed to the end bells), and the outboard mounted rests (on horizontal posts). Maybe Kingston-Conley (the maker of the M-F grinder) produced something similar but it isn't like the M-F grinder in that catalog.
 

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It certainly looks like a Stanley to me. But I remember them as having four pins holding the nameplate. this one only shows two. Could it be a rebadge?
 
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It certainly looks like a Stanley to me. But I remember them as having four pins holding the nameplate. this one only shows two. Could it be a rebadge?
That’s what I am starting to look at myself trying to identify it by badge size and location holes to attach etc
 

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Stanley is the same as Millers Falls, and both are rebadged models by Kingston-Conley. But neither look like the OP's grinder except for the motor/base shape. The guards and tool rests are not remotely the same.
 
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Stanley is the same as Millers Falls, and both are rebadged models by Kingston-Conley. But neither look like the OP's grinder except for the motor/base shape. The guards and tool rests are not remotely the same.
I don’t even see that it ever had a tool rest certainly nothing great and the end caps are basically junk
 

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The tool rest (missing) was mounted to the stamped metal wheel guard. In regards to it maybe being a Kingston-Conley, it could be but it would have been one of there most recent versions and not the same quality level as there earlier ones. Also, that base doesn't have the tool rest mounting detail that is on the earlier Kingston-Conley's.

I suggest removing the wheel guard and mounting a 6" 3M Radial Bristle Brush wheel to it, and a wire wheel or buffing wheel. You say it has a whine to it, if its the bearings, then that's an easy fix, just replace them. It's probably a good solid user.
 

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All it says is replace with malor 161-193 under cover which is start capacitor also has no tool plate am I better off making my own or making one.
Are you sure it is a "start" capacitor? If the cap is a lower value, say under 20mfd, it would be a "run" capacitor. Baldor used run caps in most of their better grinders, and I've never seen a start cap on a Baldor yet. Do you hear a CLICK when the grinder spools down that could indicate it is a start cap?
 

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I don't think any grinder ever made used a start capacitor. It would be difficult to get the switch under the end bell and there is really no good reason for one.
 
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