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Can anyone reccomend a (basic) thermostat that actually works??

fourbyford

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We've been in our house for a few years now... basic forced air heat in the main portion of the house with a "programmable" thermostat. Long story short, this thing has a mind of it's own. It is using the "default" setbacks... heat (70°) from 6 - 8 am... drop to 62°... heat to 70° for 2 hours in the evening (6 - 8?? ...dont remember the times)... back down to 62° overnight. (when we first moved in I created a custom program but it was very similar to the default so, to simplify my life, I've just gone with the default program)
Anyways... to the problem... the furnace runs intermittently because of the thermostat.
A few mornings, the furnace will come on at 6, heat until reaching 70°, then shut down. Most times, it comes on at 7 (or so), heats for a few minutes, and then shuts down. Sometimes it will come back on shortly and heat to 70°... sometimes not. I've changed the batteries... twice... looked at the contacts... can't see any obvious problems. I want to replace it but realize that new thermostats can be expensive. I dont mind laying out the cash but, when I do, I want to make sure the one I buy will actually work.
In my previous house, I bought a non-programable thermostat... it worked ok as long as the heat was set to at least 68 degrees... any lower and the furnace would continually cycle on and off. I like the house cool when I sleep... that wasn't possible with that thermostat. (In fact, I had 2 of a similar type... thought the first one was defective so I replaced it with the same result)
In the current house, I simply want a thermostat that works. We're home pretty much all-day every-day... I dont need to control the furnace with my cell phone... not at all interested in the "internet of things"... dont mind doing the "set-backs" myself... just want a thermostat that works. If I could find one, I'd probably install an older one that contained the vial of mercury... although even owning one of those now is probably a federal offense ??
Sorry for the long post... just trying to get something that works!
 
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Go honeywell or go home.

Otherwise, I wonder if your problem could be related to thermostat placement. It's not near a hearing vent or anything that could result in inaccurate readings is it?
 
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ForceFed... in the current house there is a heat duct in the vicinity of the 'stat but the system worked well the first several years we were here... the velocity of the air coming from the vent is minimal and I dont think it has much, if any, effect... the problem has been getting worse this heating season
 
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Felicita... thanks for the info... I've always favored Honeywell products in the past... these days, it's hard to know which specific product to buy... too many companies have "sold their names" to underperforming manufacturers with the highest bid
 
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I have always had great luck with the round style, honey well make .we have lived in our house for 32 years and have had to replace the thermostat 2 times. both have been with the round style .
 

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Not an expert on thermostats, but I have installed hundreds of Honeywells as an electrician wiring new HVAC units for the local HVAC contractor.
 

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The H/W round with mercury bulb is a T87F - with a Q539J or A sub-base. (One is for gas heat, the other is for electric heat/heat pump). Not the most accurate and has a glass bulb of mercury but it is very sensitive to heat and doesn't have any digital circuitry to get damaged with an EMP.
I've got one or two in cold storage just in case my home stat fries on the weekend and I need a reliable stat to keep the Mrs. comfortable.

Robertshaw made a similar basic stat with a magnetic switch instead of mercury, and White Rogers rectangular merc stat was nearly as popular.
 
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Hey Rburke... thanks for your input!

Bonneyman... thanks for the p/n's... I wasn't aware you could even buy these any longer... it was my understanding they were totally eliminated by the EPA years ago. I'm definitely looking for some!!
 

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Some thermostats have a setting for the type of furnace, which affects how much they cycle on and off. eg: If it is set for an electric furnace, it'll cycle off and on more often than if set for a gas furnace.

One of my thermostats came out-of-the-box in "adaptive mode", and was cycling in as little as 30 seconds. The "gas" setting fixed that.
 
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Hey Moto... thanks for the info... I'll double check settings. When we first moved in the house, the furnace worked pretty well... usually dependable...
We live pretty much in the sticks and usually have a few power outages during a normal winter... dont know if an outage caused a power spike that may have affected circuitry... maybe it's just getting old... dunno, but I need to get something figured out!
 
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as I read your post it reminded me of my tstat. When the power went off the clock did also so it would lose track of time. I believe the furnace guy replaced the unit with a battery backup. If the power goes out might check its little clock.
 

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I have always had great luck with the round style, honey well make .we have lived in our house for 32 years and have had to replace the thermostat 2 times. both have been with the round style .

The T87 just isn't the same as it used to be. They changed it to eliminate the mercury.

For "simple" T-stats I have had very good luck with TH4110/5100s. The 4110 is a single stage H/C programmable. The 5110 is single stage H/C non-programmable.

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First, I am no huge fan of programmable stats for homes anyway. JMO though....

We have the Honeywell "Focuspro" 5000 thermostat now for five years, no issues. It controls our now 15 year old natural gas furnace and 5 year old central Ac unit, and it has never failed us.

Simple and basic to operate. Battery operated. A good unit IMO. .


https://www.amazon.com/Honeywell-TH5110D1006-Non-Programmable-Thermostat-Heat/dp/B000GGPMO2/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1549028937&sr=8-7&keywords=honeywell+pro+focus
 

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I'm assuming you are trying to run a simple one stage furnace ?

I second to make sure it's beck on default and you have it sent court for the type of furnace so the anticipator is factored correctly.

Also -- do some research .... large setback don't always result in the saving people think.
 

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First, I am no huge fan of programmable stats for homes anyway. JMO though....

We have the Honeywell "Focuspro" 5000 thermostat now for five years, no issues. It controls our now 15 year old natural gas furnace and 5 year old central Ac unit, and it has never failed us.

Simple and basic to operate. Battery operated. A good unit IMO. .


https://www.amazon.com/Honeywell-TH5110D1006-Non-Programmable-Thermostat-Heat/dp/B000GGPMO2/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1549028937&sr=8-7&keywords=honeywell+pro+focus

That's the one I recommend, too.

Tommy
 

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Hey Rburke... thanks for your input!

Bonneyman... thanks for the p/n's... I wasn't aware you could even buy these any longer... it was my understanding they were totally eliminated by the EPA years ago. I'm definitely looking for some!!

Those older numbered stats are no longer made. The EPA made mercury stats "bad". But you may be able to find some NOS or an ebay seller.
I just pulled the numbers out of my head, as when you've been doing A/C as long as I have certain things stick - whether you want them to or not. :lol_hitti

Though they aren't as great as when they first started out in 2002, Braeburn makes some decent entry-level stats that won't break the bank.
 
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Those older numbered stats are no longer made. The EPA made mercury stats "bad". But you may be able to find some NOS or an ebay seller.
I just pulled the numbers out of my head, as when you've been doing A/C as long as I have certain things stick - whether you want them to or not. [emoji38]_hitti
I've been doing more research... ran across a White Roger's mechanical that, one place in the description, says "mercury free"... in another place lists a glass enclosed mercury capsule (or words to that effect)... at less than $30, I'm tempted to give that one a try. I also found some old-school Honeywells (mercury) on ebay... think I'm gonna take the belt-and-suspenders approach and get a couple of those as well. Neither the W/R nor the Honeywell (obviously) require a battery back-up so, in my mind, that's a plus. I'm leaning towards using the W/R because it includes switches for heat/cool (cooling coming to our house soon??) and a switch to control the blower... if I decide I dont like it, I'll just install a HW and not be out much...
Thanks again for your input!!

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If you get an "old" T87, you can get a sub base that allows control of the fan and has a Heat/Off/Cool switch. You will have to adjust the heat anticipator, which is something the other two stats I listed won't require.

Tommy
 
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I use one of these guys in the garage. Very simple and easy to configure/use. It is programmable, but that is actually desirable for me.

Honeywell RTH2300B1012/E1 5-2 Day Programmable Thermostat
Its about $30.
 
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