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Bodj Built

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Picture doesn't show up. Says it's adult content lol. Gotta quit posting pictures of yer nuts!

I thought that was pretty funny joke until I tried to see the photo...Bodj was not kidding...still pretty funny. It probably got flagged due to the name given to the photo by the OP.
 

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Here's the adult content pic you kids weren't allowed to see:

EDIT: Oh wait, looks like Frede162 is double posting the same thread around the forum, no need to answer here.
 
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Here, this might be easier

Here's the adult content pic you kids weren't allowed to see:

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Thanks man. As you can see it's been brazed with what looks to be brass.
 
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Here's the adult content pic you kids weren't allowed to see:

EDIT: Oh wait, looks like Frede162 is double posting the same thread around the forum, no need to answer here.

I asked if anyone can "make" one on the other forum. Is that not permitted?
 

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If it has been brazed before, it will need brazing again. Welding over a previously brazed joint will likely crack or not even hold. I'd prefer silver brazing, but I don't know how that will hold on the old brass. Perhaps try melting it all off if that even works?
 
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If it has been brazed before, it will need brazing again. Welding over a previously brazed joint will likely crack or not even hold. I'd prefer silver brazing, but I don't know how that will hold on the old brass. Perhaps try melting it all off if that even works?

It looks like there's enough original cast iron to grind the brass off and start over but not sure.....I haven't welded anything since high school.
 

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I would cut off the connecting web halves and braze/tig braze another flat piece in there.. looks like you could make it thicker if you did that. Not a strong design.
 

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I'd clean up and braze again. As has been pointed out, it cannot be welded when it was previously brazed. Add side plates too (bolted or silver soldered), if there is clearance room.
 
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Welded back together?

No. Because there is brass/bronze brazing filler in there right now.

It can probably be brazed back together. Reinforcement on the 'rib' would be dependent on how much side clearance there is in the vise cavity where the parts move.

Brazing can be as strong as cast the cast iron, but if you crank on the vise you WILL break it. Again. Since the original cast iron broke and then the braze repair broke.

No more cheater pipe extensions on the vise handle or bashing the vise handle with a weighted blunt object (like a BFH :lol_hitti ).
 

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I would really look and making a new one.
Buy the “coupling nut” that fits you threads and the rest is easy
 

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Can't see the pics, all I can see when I click on the link is adult content...

I think Fireball tools on youtube channel have something on brazing back broken vise before when this topic was popular ,, about 2 years ago. maybe check him out...
 

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FYI for future reference, cast iron can be welded. That is nothing new, and is done all the time.

As others mentioned in this case, it already has been brazed so welding isn’t going to work too great.

What I would do is tack weld a piece on each end that holds it in the right location. Then grind out the brazed material. Then weld together. If the gap is too big, cut/grind a piece of steel to fit in the gap.

Some might say it won’t work, but it will. A friend of mine, about 80 now, owned an automotive machine shop for 30 years. He’d fix old cast iron intakes and heads on old stuff you can’t buy a replacement part for. One day a guy comes in with a Massey tractor where the engine is a 3cyl diesel, made for Massey by one of the Japanese companies (I think Iseki). The block is cast iron is ‘ventilated’ from the connecting rod letting go. He buys the entire tractor for next to nothing. He gets it apart and hot tanked the block, he cuts a piece of cardboard to the shape of the hole, and cuts/grinds a piece of steel to fit. He heats the block with a torch, then he welds the steel piece in with his MIG welder with plain steel wire. He grinds it smooth, bores the cylinders, puts it back,in the hot tank, assembles the engine and it runs fine. He uses the tractor and the landscaper/lawn care guy comes in months later with something else to get repaired and ends up buying the tractor back! True story.
 
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Thanks for all the responses. I've learned a lot from this thread. I sent the nut out to be re-brazed yesterday.

I'll be happy to have that vise working again. As said, I'm a woodworker but use metal on occasion....yesterday was an occasion as I was fabricating a metal strap. With the vise out of commission, and not wanting to destroy the maple jaws in my woodworking vise, I decided to hand hold the strap while drilling it.
Gut said bad....didn't listen. When the bit penetrated it grabbed and spun the piece which ripped off part of my thumbnail. A relatively minor yet painful act of stupidity on my part....lol
 

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Surprisingly "Self-Infliction" isn't the educator one might think! You will likely do the same thing again, most of us have and self loathe again for not learning/knowing better. :shocking: So I'll take the fifth here forward, my ego can't take the repeated abuse. :eek: Thankfully it wasn't worse. Good deal that you found someone to give that part the required "Love"!:beer: Scarred and damaged Harry!:lol_hitti Let the healing begin.
 

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A few more pics of the repair. Beveled and welded one side, flipped it over, background to sound metal and welded opposite side. TIG brazed with ERCuSi-A wire, 2 passes on each side. The previous repair appeared to be gas welded with low fuming bronze, but did not penetrate very deep.
 

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A few more pics of the repair. Beveled and welded one side, flipped it over, background to sound metal and welded opposite side. TIG brazed with ERCuSi-A wire, 2 passes on each side. The previous repair appeared to be gas welded with low fuming bronze, but did not penetrate very deep.

Many thanks to "welder4956" for the great weld.....it's rock solid. I'm happy to have the vise back up and running in my shop. The vise has a great a lineage as it belonged to my wife's grandfather Larry. I never met him but I'm told he was a great man....and a veteran that fought in WWII. Here's a photo of Sgt Larry Solomon and his wife Mary.

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PIERCE just welded a Parker vise nut for another member and posted a lot of detail about how he did it over on the vise repair 101 thread and here's the link. look back at about the last 2 weeks posts for the posts about it. it's not fixing the same break cause the parker nut exploded and he put it back together. all you have to do is probably braze that piece back together or make a new base to weld to the nut that seems ok.

here's the link to the 101 thread: https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=252830
 
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