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can it be built for 20k

jumperc

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im looking to build a pole barn behind my house for my hobby shop...
i only have 20k to complete it.. can you build a 36x60x12 with a concrete floor and have lights in it.. i have 4 bids from 12k to 17k for just the barn with no doors.. rob bilt is lowest bid right now at 12.. so can i buy 2 garage doors, have concrete pured and put lights in it for 8k.. everybody around my area says (no way)... what does everbody think? i live just north of saint louis...
 
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IDASHO

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Well, for starters....

A 36x60, assuming you are going with just a 4" thick slab, is going to be around 24 cubic yards of concrete just for the slab. Add footings and imperfections in grade, you will be pushing 28-30 yards.

Last time I poured concrete it was right about $100 a yard delivered.

Thats 3k just in mud.

No steel.
no form materials.
No labor.

Add in steel, forms, and labor, and you will be in the $6-$8k ballpark, just for the slab.
 

rodnok1

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It would be close for sure. Probably going to eat 90% of that 8k up in concrete/prep and grading. Electrical varies so much depending on utility company and what local requirements are.
 
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jumperc

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i already have the electric panel, all the breakers ect, and just redid electric in the house so now i have 200 amp service and have a 100 amp disconnect set up for shop.. im affrid to start and give barn place deposit cause if i run out of money then im screwed.. cant work in the dark with no doors on the building.. is concrete somthing that can be done with a couple freinds on a saturday? have no exp with concrete work
 

35mastr

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Sub it out on the concrete. Unless your freinds are any type of masons. You will end up with a huge mess.
 

nehog

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My slab cost me about 10K. The building was 24K. Other stuff was about another 10K. And it ain't fancy, either (basic wiring, no water/sewer, no heat, but insulated).

Add to that labor if you got'a pay someone to (help) put it up, and see where you are?
 

mkbrower

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My building is a 40X40X12 and I have about 20K in it right now without doors. I figure 3 10X10 insulated doors at around 4K. The only thing I didn't do myself was the grading, the concrete, and the roof. My wife has it broke down in a spreadsheet if interested.

Mark
 

Aberdale

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I'd say your dreaming to think you can get a building that size with a poured floor and electric for $20k unless you get a heck of a deal on materials and do all the labor yourself. It's pretty easy to get a lowball quote, but by the time the job is finished, the contractor will find a way to add some profit in somehow, often 20-50% higher than the quote. Either that or he will cut corners to try and make some money. We all have been there.

I'm not saying don't do it, I'm just saying that you should expect the building to come in in the $25-30K range with doors, concrete, and electric.

I had a 120x40x14 built with two 12'x12' doors, one man door, and dirt floor for $24K. A 6" concrete floor would add $14k. Size wize, this is an apples to oranges comparison, but I built my barn 3 years ago, and I doubt if materials have gotten any cheaper.
 

chief ben

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The Wife & I Built this 26 X 50 with 6 inch concret floor in 1994 for $5,000.oo
We did all the work, and saved a lot of Money, I know everything has went up
But some of the money some of you guy's are talking about spending on building a shop or garage BLOWES MY MIND,
Now With That Said,, I Know a Lot of you Guys Work a full time Job and can't do the work your self, and you have the money to have it built,
BUT, GET A LOT OF People To Bid On The JOB,
And Get Everything In A Contract, NO Word Of Mouth Deal, NO HAND Shake.
And Inspect the Job Every Day,
And if you see something you don't like, Say So Right Then,
And Ask your Wife to Help you Keep tract of what is going on,
and if she is not Happy, You Won't Be Happy,
If you think I'm Wrong about This, Just Ask Her, LOL
And Do It Right The First Time, And You Will Be Happy For Ever.
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mad57

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TRy pioneer pole buildings, gonna be close with concrete but just might be doable, even if you just put up the building and do the crete later at least you started it, I WOULD NOT DO CONCRETE MY SELF WITH BUDDIES!!! i DID BUT MY BUDS ARE MASONS. if your ground is pretty level you should be ok but im sure youll need fill somewhere, if you do the elec yourself and only want the basics sure why not sounds like you have most parts allready... call pioneer and get a quote why not start somewhere... also winters creepinng in so hot water charge on crete is in effect:( another $200 let us know how you make out get a contract and every thing in writing, i used pioneer and they were pros from start to finish.
 

larry_g

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If you look at my build the materials, engineering, and permit delivered to the site was just shy of 15k. I did all the site work leveling and pushout. The flooring was in the 4k range as I remember. Again I did the prep work and bought the steel. The 4k was mud and finish work, with a small amount of forming. I paid out some 8k to have the building erected. With electrical and the loft added in I'm about 30k into the building. So look at what I got in the build thread listed below.

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Just for comparison pricing: I just had a 30 x 40 x 5" slab poured last month, and the concrete came from your hometown. Mat'l., labor, finished glass smooth, and joints sawed, the final bill was $4200.

If you decide to move forward PM me and I'll put you in touch with the guy.. He did NICE work.
 

galute

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I just built this 30x50 with 12 foot lean to across the front. 12 foot sidewalls, one 10x12 overhead door, one man door, 4 inches concrete thru out. Only thing I touched was I did all the dirt work. Everything else was turn key for a little over 17k. Without the lean to it was gonna be about 13k. I've got to finish the inside and add electric and insulation. So I would think what you are wanting to do is doable if you shop around.

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mad57

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another note when you add over hangs and ridge vents and gable ends it starts to add up, also insulate doors compared to a reg door theres a diffrence. hope this helps.
 

Donnda

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My 24 X 48 X 10 Pole barn shop was built last week in 3 days. They poured the floor today (Monday) My property has quite a slope to it so we had to carve out almost 4 feet of dirt to the rear of the building. The building has no windows one insulated man door, one 9 X 12 Martin noninsulated garage door.Total for the building as stated above was $17,100

I have no electricity yet but have contracted it @ $1023 to the breaker box (nothing inside) I paid the cement guy $400 extra to put in a apron by borh doors.

I will have to fir out the inside, install my elec wiring, insulate, cover the walls with? put in a couple of windows.

During the several months of planning I found that on a pole building if you do walls at 12 foot increments it will be the cheapest square foot cost. ie: if one wall is 30 ft long the resulting square foot cost will be more expensive than a 36 ft wall.

Oh BTW cement is $124 a yard delivered here in Montana

So build your post and pole building with what you can afford and add stuff to it as you can afford it. I have about $18,500 in mine and will work at wireing insulation etc as I can.
Donn
 

DIRTY DEEDS

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I'm currently building a 36x50 with a 14 ft. wall my frame work is up and I have all components to finish . will be pouring my floor this weekend 5" thick . Since I live on a hill I had to build a 3 ft. retaining wall about 75 ft. long with ties. and back fill with about 100 tons of dirt to make my space .I do everything myself with help from friends. when I'm done ,I should come in around 16,000 complete. will post pics. when I'm done... so yes ,it can be done..
 
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