Can someone help me identify this lathe?

[jaber]

A good friend of mine said it looks like a Barnes. It appears to function properly but I only had time to unload it and leave for Christmas. I'd really like to know what it is and find some literature on it.
Thanks,
John

 

[tombell572]

Small pictures make it difficult. Lettering at top of thread chart looks like (?) & N QUICK CHANGE. The hand wheel on the left side of the apron could indicate a British machine. It's usually located on the right side of the apron on American lathes.

Tom B.

 

[RoninB4]

Perhaps a little digging on lathes.uk would provide some photos/drawings to help you. It's always appreciated when you try to do the research yourself before asking for the help/time of others, especially for your first post. Would be glad to help afterwards. The photos aren't very good.

 

[Stubby1743]

The photos open up to full screen for me, but I can't help with the manufacturer.

 

[Oregon rock crusher]

I'm not sure what it is but I would look at the Ohio area lathe builders. Cincinnati, Cleaveland, and Sidney area companies were prolific and often shared design features. Some clues....The way the Headstock bearing towers are tied together straight across level with a swell to accommodate the largest pulley is Sidney like. Most vintage lathe castings tying the towers are lower closer to the chuck.

Also the rounded guard on the end of the headstock is similar. The rounded oval top of the compound tool rest is also consistent with many lathes from the area. Leg shape and tailstock features match as well. There are many less well known manufacturers from the area to sort through though. Just some observations. Ed.

 

[jaber]

Small pictures make it difficult. Lettering at top of thread chart looks like (?) & N QUICK CHANGE. The hand wheel on the left side of the apron could indicate a British machine. It's usually located on the right side of the apron on American lathes.

Tom B.

Thanks for the reply Tom! When I get home I will take better pictures and clean up the tag and look for more identifying numbers.
Merry Christmas

 

[jaber]

Perhaps a little digging on lathes.uk would provide some photos/drawings to help you. It's always appreciated when you try to do the research yourself before asking for the help/time of others, especially for your first post. Would be glad to help afterwards. The photos aren't very good.

RoninB4, sorry I certainly didn't mean to inconvenience anyone. I can assure you I came to this forum after searching considerably for information.
Regards

 

[jaber]

I'm not sure what it is but I would look at the Ohio area lathe builders. Cincinnati, Cleaveland, and Sidney area companies were prolific and often shared design features. Some clues....The way the Headstock bearing towers are tied together straight across level with a swell to accommodate the largest pulley is Sidney like. Most vintage lathe castings tying the towers are lower closer to the chuck.

Also the rounded guard on the end of the headstock is similar. The rounded oval top of the compound tool rest is also consistent with many lathes from the area. Leg shape and tailstock features match as well. There are many less well known manufacturers from the area to sort through though. Just some observations. Ed.

Thanks for the reply Ed! I'll be home tomorrow and will look for numbers around the chuck.

 

[BombShelter]

That motor looks really beefy, is that a sanding disc on the side?

You can post photos any time for me, I love the old stuff.

 

[682bear]

... The hand wheel on the left side of the apron could indicate a British machine. It's usually located on the right side of the apron on American lathes.

Tom B.

I think you have that backwards...

-Bear

 

[leg17]

Believe me I am NOT trying to run you off. But...
There is a group that is very much into this stuff.
You might have some success there.

Antique Machinery and History

Discuss antique machinery and the history of manufacturers >> moderator Greg Menke

www.practicalmachinist.com

But do come back and stay a while. Might find something interesting.

 

[tombell572]

Bear--you are correct. No excuse other than a brain fart, thanks. The usual location of the hand wheel for carriage travel on British lathes in at the right side of the apron.

I think you have that backwards...

-Bear

 

[jaber]

I got home and cleaned things up a bit, scratched the paint off on the far rt side. Tag shows it's a Monarch 9"&11" quick change. It's stamped INSPECTED BY CARL CLARK. There's a K 385 next to the inspector. I'm still not sure what model it is.

 

[Oregon rock crusher]

There is a bit of information on the OWWM website for early Monarchs. The company was reformed as Monarch Machine co in 1916. I expect your lathe would date to the late teens or early 20's. This link has some info. http://www.vintagemachinery.org/mfgindex/imagedetail.aspx?id=17625 . The Lathes UK site may have more. Here is a pic of a short bed Monarch very similar to your lathe. I have a 1918 17" Heavy pattern Sidney lathe with factory riser blocks which shares many design features. Ed.

 

[jaber]

Thank you for the reply and link! It was very helpful. I appreciate your time.