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Can you change a tire?

Ford12508

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I took some stupid quiz thing as a joke a few minutes ago. Apparently I shouldn't change my tire if I ever break down.

Here is one of the questions. I would like you guys to answer it and I will give the answer in about an hour if I remember, or tomorrow when I wake up.

True or False? A tire lever(Lug Wrench) is essentially a large hammer
 
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MalibuLX3

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I would hope that would be false, but you then again I'm seen many people not have any clue when it comes to changing a tire...
 

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false , surely
Actually over here they don't recommend you change your tyre if it blows on a road since there has been a few deaths with people being run over by passing cars whilst changing the tyre.It is recommended now that people just cough up for a tow truck so changing a tyre could be a dying art??
 

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Spare tires are the disappearing thing, pretty soon nobody will carry a spare, just tow to a shop and fix or replace the tire.

Spare tire well in my 928 was made for a Vrederstein collapsed tire that hasn't been made in two decades, some 30 year old ones still inflate ok though, but many owners don't bother to carry one.
 

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Everyone keeps talking about the "dangers" of roadside repair. In certain areas there might be no other option, but what is wrong with limping over to the exit and changing in a parking lot?

I had a tire on my car hauler blow out while loaded. I never even noticed it until some guy forced me to the shoulder to tell me. I had apparently drove 5 miles like that, and then drove another 5 miles to the tire store.

Changed plenty in gas station, truck stop, or fast food parking lots. In general, I notice passenger car tires seem to be lasting much longer these days? Can't say the same for OTR tires, although I noticed I have changed less this summer than this past winter, which is quite odd.
 

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Taking a guess you don't have $500 wheels and $300 tires. I don't either, but running on a flat wrecks most tires.

OTOH nobody mentioned it so far, but if I pick up a nail or something, I'm inclined to plug it while its still on the car and re-inflate.
 

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Taking a guess you don't have $500 wheels and $300 tires. I don't either, but running on a flat wrecks most tires.

OTOH nobody mentioned it so far, but if I pick up a nail or something, I'm inclined to plug it while its still on the car and re-inflate.

It was $1000+/- to reshoe the ol pony last time I drove like an idiot and bent a rim. Couldn't find an "original" and didn't want to drive around on mismatches, so it was time for a new set of 4. Rears were kinda worn and factory rims looked hideous, so the choice wasn't too painful. Discount wanted $500 just for the 2 rear tires. Nothing so drastic or exotic, just 17s, the same diameter originally equipped.

If I get some kind of flat while driving down the highway (that's where the danger and rim risk is) chances are the tire is junk anyways. Good chance the rim got thrashed in the process whether it is towed, pulled off to the shoulder, or limped to the next exit.

If the area is so primitive that there is no exit for the next 30 miles, well chances are there is relatively little traffic anyways.
 

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Everyone keeps talking about the "dangers" of roadside repair. In certain areas there might be no other option, but what is wrong with limping over to the exit and changing in a parking lot?


Agreed, sometimes there is no other option. One of the few blowouts I've ever had was on an unfamiliar section of highway near Philly - mass confusions of exit ramps / bridges with hardly any shoulder space. I had no idea how far I might have to limp along and I figured we'd get run over by the 80mph traffic anyway, so we made the choice to jump out and change it fast. My wife jumped out and watched traffic while I did the fastest tire change of my life.
The difference is that the "average" automobile driver is not like us. Most of them are clueless. When something goes worng, they stop the dang car where ever it stops and then procede to work on it - while thier **** hangs out in the travel lane as car go zipping past at full speed.
The other side of this is those same clueless incdividuals who don't have the sense to see a disabled vehicles on the shoulder and move over a lane to give some safe distance. We had a local towing guy killed a couple years ago who had been doing roadside assistance forever - some jack-hole drifted across the white line where he was on the shoulder and cleaned him off as he got out of his truck.
 

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Spare tires are the disappearing thing, pretty soon nobody will carry a spare, just tow to a shop and fix or replace the tire.

Spare tire well in my 928 was made for a Vrederstein collapsed tire that hasn't been made in two decades, some 30 year old ones still inflate ok though, but many owners don't bother to carry one.

Those things are amazing, I have two of them in my cars. I brought one in to work (tire manufacturing) to demo and we were all quite impressed. Pretty unusual construction.

By the OP posting this, it must be true, but I wonder what the reasoning was. And where the survey was.
 

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I took some stupid quiz thing as a joke a few minutes ago. Apparently I shouldn't change my tire if I ever break down.

Here is one of the questions. I would like you guys to answer it and I will give the answer in about an hour if I remember, or tomorrow when I wake up.

True or False? A tire lever(Lug Wrench) is essentially a large hammer

Anything heavy or hard can be, and probably has been used as a hammer, either out of necessity or out of anger, maybe even humor. But primary use, no, a lug wrench is not a hammer. A lug wrench is used to remove the lug nuts and center cap if equipped with the flat end.

False - if other questions in the quiz were straight laced technical.

True - if other questions in the quiz leaned towards comedy.



Edit: oop, missed it by 5min.
 
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Stuart in MN

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There are several terms being used here - tire iron, tire lever, lug wrench. A wrench is a wrench, the iron or lever is used for mounting tires. These days, probably only bicyclists, or maybe some motorcyclists, are familiar with them
 

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There are several terms being used here - tire iron, tire lever, lug wrench. A wrench is a wrench, the iron or lever is used for mounting tires. These days, probably only bicyclists, or maybe some motorcyclists, are familiar with them


Can you expand on these a little more please?
 

Bruce Lancaster

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In traditional usage a tire iron is a lever, usually with slightly spooned tip, made for prying the tire on and off the wheel...for old/specialized uses it might also have a tip for disengaging split rims or locking rings. There are specialized shapes for starting the process of breaking the bead area of tires away from the wheel rim...a job that has become much harder in the last few decades due to rust from salt and steel belted tires that are very hard to move.
In the traditional usage, the thing now called a tire iron by most people, the thing that comes in the trunk with the apare, is properly a lug wrench...sometimes the handle is formed as a lever tool, but that generally has to do with removing hubcaps, not tires from rims, and the thing is quite obviously a wrench in form and function.
I think 99% of the people I know would call their lug wrench a tire iron, that usage has pretty well taken over...
Tire irons (except, as noted above, for bikes) are pretty much gone from most people's lives...modern tires are quite difficult to R&R with one, and of course an aluminum wheel would be pretty well chewed up by the things. This is actually a huge social change...to illustrate, every Ford sold through 1948 came with a tire iron (entirely distinct from its lug wrench!) in the standard toolkit. Ordinary people often knew how to dismount a tire and patch a tube, pretty much as bicyclists do now, and it was not uncommon to dismount a tire using a couple of irons and leaving wheel bolted to car as the support...but tires were bigger rim size/smaller carcass back then and much flexier in bead area, so they were not very hard to remove.
Flat tires as a normal life experience started fading away in the late '60's/early '70's in my experience. Now they are considered a disaster, not something you fix and go with.
 

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I can change a tire. However, I had a blowout on the freeway going to work 6 months ago. As I pull off to the shoulder of the freeway and begin to inspect the damage, up pulls a Freeway Service Patrol truck.
Here in southern California, it is a free service offered to motorists. They patrol the freeways looking for stranded motorists and either tow them off the freeway or if out of gas or blown tire, get them on their way.
Didn't even have a chance to get the spare out before he pulled up. 5 minutes later, I was on my way. Got to stay clean, too.
A rare example of tax payer money going to good use in California.
 

Stuart in MN

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Can you expand on these a little more please?


Tire iron, used for mounting or demounting tires:

Standard_Tire_Iron.jpg


Lug Wrench:
T6lugwrench.jpg

People often incorrectly call a lug wrench a tire iron.
 

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Modern tires are amazing.

I've got five operating cars/trucks and can't remember the last highway flat I had.

I do check the tire pressures regularly. If any one tire is down more than a pound or two, I find out why. Usually, it has FOD, often still in situ, having run that way so long it has worn the head of the nail or screw. I pull the tire/wheel and take it in to be repaired and rebalanced.

At least once a week, I see a vehicle going along obliviously with a flat or nearly flat tire. I make every effort to get his/her attention and signal the problem. Often, the result is the driver tries to escape/evade the maniac who is waving at him/her. No good deed goes unpunished.

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Bruce Lancaster

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"Modern tires are amazing..."

I can remeber when I first got radials for our heap, maybe mid-70's...
Tires gave good service for 40,000 miles, not far from twice the old type...due to poverty, I once ran some beyond that until large amounts of steel belting showed...no failures.
Again in that period of kids and poverty, I made a desperate, probably almost criminal, repair on a radial after something I ran over made a 3" slash in the sidewall...no tire place could touch a repair that risky, and I could barely afford the repair supplies I needed, much less another tire. I tore the thing off of its wheel myself, a backbreaking job with a 14 incher, hand tools, and rusted steel wheels, improvised a repair holding together or at least covering the big rip, and stuffed in a tube...another no-no for tubeless radials.
That sucker ran till the tread was gone 40,000 miles later, and never needed any air added...
 

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Do you mean change a flat - yes I can or dismount a tire from the wheel and replace it - yes I can. As far as spare tires I removed the Mickey Mouse spare from my car and replaced it with a real full size wheel and tire (BTW, the rim is part of the wheel not the whole wheel as a lot of people refer to it as). I also carry a tire plugging kit and a 12V air compressor. It's a case of if you have it you'll never need it, if you don't have it you'll need it I guess (I've never needed any of it, but you never know - just watch, after posting this I'll have 5 flats tomorrow!)
 

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Just for anyone wondering, the answer is TRUE a tire iron is like a hammer. It gave no reasoning.

I don't know what idiot wrote that test but in the real world a lug wrench is neither a tire iron or a hammer. A tire iron is not a hammer either. Also contrary to popular opinion in this thread tire irons are not limited to bicycle use these days. They are still used a lot in tire shops especially the ones in my area that do a lot of agricultural and construction tire work. The ones used in tire shops do not look like the one pictured however, the ends are wide flat and curved and are also known as "tire spoons".
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