Can you ID these pliers

[TheSasquatch]

Have had these pliers my whole life, inherited them from my grandfather. He was an TWA aircraft sheetmetal mechanic and later an inspector. While he had some snapon and other higher end tools a majority of them were cheap offshore tools. I always assumed these were of the latter. But after receiving a pair on vintage snapon slip joint pliers for Christmas from my father these bare a striking resemblance but are larger. Unfortunately they are ground where the branding would be and are unmarked elsewhere so I’m not sure. Pictured are them as well as a photo with the snapon in it. Will get a better pic of the known snapons tomorrow at work.

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[Oldtuleguy]

Don't look like snap on

 

[TheSasquatch]

Don't look like snap on

See that’s what I had thought until I got my vintage chrome and red handled ones this year. With exception of the back curve of the front handle the shape is very similar.


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[Oldtuleguy]

I think those look more like blue point. Same shape as the snap on but thinner handles, and chrome instead of black finish. Even then I don't think the bluepoint version had that extra curve in the handle.

 

[disston]

Often called water pump pliers or slip joint pliers there are variations on the slip joint feature.

 

[Mintgrun]

Channellock uses that adjustment mechanism, or at least one that is similar.
nowadays their handles are blue.

Crescent uses it too. Their handles are red.
that'd be my guess...

 

[four.cycle]

The plated pair of tongue-and-groove pliers (fourth from bottom in the third photo) look like they could be Wilde G271P or G271Z - the handles are different down toward the bottom end, though.



(and here: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Wilde-Tong...able-T-G-Zinc-Finish-Made-in-USA/142623356282 )

The pair in the first image are not forged the same way as Wilde. (look closely)

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Channellock has been using a rivet for the fastener for quite a long time. They did originally use a nut and bolt fastener, but it's been some time. This 1983 advertisement touts their "Permalock" fastener, which presumably is the rivet.
They've also sported blue handles for a long time.



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So you can most likely eliminate Channellock and Wilde for the pair in the first image.
It looks to me like you've got four different brands of tongue-and-groove pliers there.
Other possibilities could be Crescent, Snap-on, or..... ??

Sure they're all US made?

 

[TheSasquatch]

The plated pair of tongue-and-groove pliers (fourth from bottom in the third photo) look like they could be Wilde G271P or G271Z - the handles are different down toward the bottom end, though.







(and here: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Wilde-Tong...able-T-G-Zinc-Finish-Made-in-USA/142623356282 )



The pair in the first image are not forged the same way as Wilde. (look closely)



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Channellock has been using a rivet for the fastener for quite a long time. They did originally use a nut and bolt fastener, but it's been some time. This 1983 advertisement touts their "Permalock" fastener, which presumably is the rivet.

They've also sported blue handles for a long time.







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So you can most likely eliminate Channellock and Wilde for the pair in the first image.

It looks to me like you've got four different brands of tongue-and-groove pliers there.

Other possibilities could be Crescent, Snap-on, or..... ??



Sure they're all US made?

Every pair of pliers in the 3rd image are snapon. I pretty much only buy snapon and they were a Christmas gift from my father this year. The chrome handled pair in that pic is the first time I had seen snapons that were chrome and not black. That’s why I’m thinking these may be snapons as well because of the way they are shaped and the feel is very similar.


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[Mintgrun]

I guess someone ground off the maker's name, when they removed a previous owner's name.

Is that a plastic washer under the nut?
That is a unique feature that should narrow the maker options.

 

[TheSasquatch]

I guess someone ground off the maker's name, when they removed a previous owner's name.

Is that a plastic washer under the nut?
That is a unique feature that should narrow the maker options.

No it’s not under the nut, it’s a garden hose sealing washer that’s found it’s way on the nut from being in the around the house hand box. Just haven’t ever taken it off.


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[TheSasquatch]

Here are the 2 next to each other, very similar handle material. As well as the manufacturing is very similar but the shape is different. Was really wanting them to be but unfortunately I don’t think so. Would really like to know the maker though.


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