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Can you source cable from markings on cover? (RS-232)

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Anyone know the OEM source for this RS-232 cable? Is there a way to decode the makers of these?

300v 22AWG FT1 COPARTNER

E119932-C 9U AWM 2464 80c

LL84201 CSA AWM

I know the 300 volts and 22 wire guage, and the CSA is a standard, but wasn't sure about the rest of it.
 

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The mfg of the cable assembly is there in your description "COPARTNER". Are you looking for the mfg of the wire cable core? The p/n to search for is "E119932" but not many hits. What specifically are you looking for?
 

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Anyone know the OEM source for this RS-232 cable? Is there a way to decode the makers of these?

300v 22AWG FT1 COPARTNER

E119932-C 9U AWM 2464 80c

LL84201 CSA AWM

I know the 300 volts and 22 wire guage, and the CSA is a standard, but wasn't sure about the rest of it.

Not sure what you are looking for but that looks like a standard RS-232 cable to me with DB-25 connectors. I can not see if one is male and the other end female. Depending on application they can have transmit/receive pins reversed end to end. This can be checked with an ohm meter.
 
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What I was looking for is that the compaby from whom I bought the cable claimed to make them up specifically, for a specific application. But I kinda/sorta called BS on this when I got to thinking about it, and wondered if these were actually manufactured in large runs. Just wanted to verify or find out if there was an OEM source, what the "cost" was -- just do my due diligence to make sure I wasn't getting taken (too badly)....
 

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the cable looks cast/mold in means manufactured in a batches (not your normal hand crimp jobs), not likely something custom, unless they order very large batches specific for their uses. very rare case that is true.


Just google DB25 to DB25 pin-outs only 2 or 3 possible configurations.

check if it is a crossover modem cable
http://www.bb-elec.com/Images/modemcrossdb25.aspx

or just something straight through db25 to db-25 extension.
http://www.blogelectronica.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/rs232-pinout-db25-dte-db25-dce.gif

or something else.... then all you have to do is match that description. Either case once you figured out the pinout from one end to the other end, you can find and match the type of DB-25 to DB-25 cable you have.....

Unless they embedded something in between the connectors.
 

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I had a gadget that had a parallel port on it, the manufacturer of said product sold a really expensive adapter that allowed it to be used with USB. They said it was the only one they found that worked with the equipment consistently. They were right, I must have tried four adapters, and then I still had to spend the $125 on theirs. Maybe what they mean is something like that?
 

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I had a gadget that had a parallel port on it, the manufacturer of said product sold a really expensive adapter that allowed it to be used with USB. They said it was the only one they found that worked with the equipment consistently. They were right, I must have tried four adapters, and then I still had to spend the $125 on theirs. Maybe what they mean is something like that?

Dunno your specific case, but the "custom" cable of those sort are still just a lesser know standard to others, but still a standard pinout. There are not too many people manufacture their own custom cables for the applications, usually they will map and do it at the devices. Not 100% sure.

I have this VW dongle that is older db9 serial days but wanted to use it with the newer laptops, I posted at their sponsored forum and asked, their engineer were being vague and offer no help other than to try a specific usb to serial that is $50 or more that may or may not work, or get a new dongle from them... It was later that found out through a different project that there were nothing special about their cable. just that it was a lesser known standard on RS232 chips, means their USB to serial chip have an extra RS232 chip to invert the signals.... I did confirm that and make that dongle worked flawlessly on usb by just buying a $10 usb to serial dongle with an RS232 chip. either case the story is that there are only few standards pin outs, the vendor wants you to buy their cables and probably won't help you find a cheaper source for it,,, consider it as trade secret of some sort.
 
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That could be a similar idea, I just could not find one that worked. Maybe this is what the OP is running into.
 

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I say if it is for a business, just deal with it and pay the cost to not have to deal with this minor worries. probably the OP's intention was to find out if his vendor is charging him ridiculous amount for a cable. see if he have been taken advantage of. But just a pic of that cable won't do any good. it could have been any of the configurations without a pin out mapped for the cable or type of devices it is used on.


The answer is no you can't source by just the marking on the cable, but you can probably source it from knowing the pin outs.
 
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Anyone know the OEM source for this RS-232 cable? Is there a way to decode the makers of these?

300v 22AWG FT1 COPARTNER

E119932-C 9U AWM 2464 80c

LL84201 CSA AWM

I know the 300 volts and 22 wire guage, and the CSA is a standard, but wasn't sure about the rest of it.

The E119932 is a UL file number. It belongs to the mfr of the cable itself and details the construction of the cable. Copartner Technology Corp made the cable. AWM is appliance wire material formula 2464 and is suitable for use up to 80 degrees c.

Unfortunately this information does not tell you who manufactured the assembly. You probably need to check online like on cables to go.com and see if you can find a replacement.
 
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I say if it is for a business, just deal with it and pay the cost to not have to deal with this minor worries.

agreed.

probably the OP's intention was to find out if his vendor is charging him ridiculous amount for a cable. see if he have been taken advantage of.

Yep.

Thanks for everyone who contributed to this thread. Some great info. I'll look further into (if I have the time!) It's a 25 pin male to female. I did notice it was molded and not hand-crimped, so that's what originally led me to believe it wasn't "custom" made -- the company went into detail about the fact that it was.

That said, if it doesn't give problems for another 5 years, it's worth it I suppose.:)
 

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the e119932 is a ul file number...

Copartner Technology Corp
far east century park, 4th fl
16 chien pa rd
chung ho city, taipei hsien taiwan

And yeah, that's just the cable manufacturer, not necessarily the assembly mfr.
 
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I'd love to have a quarter for every RS-232 cable I've assembled over the years. So many pins crimped.......

As others have said, it's likely a standard crossover, straight-thru, or null-modem (not likely).

Very easy to use a continuity tester to confirm the pinouts. If it was truly a one-off pinout, they would likely have a proprietary label or identification on it.

The wire itself is pretty inconsequential.
 
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