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peth

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My parents didn't buy me a car but I did get to learn on the 84 F150 farm truck. They bought my brother and sister a 97 Lumina to learn on and drive. Its really held up, and has survived several fender benders. Many of my friends had GM W platform cars through high school and university and they really held to the abuse and neglect. Lots of these cars in any price range.
 
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mulepackin

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I got my dtr. a 95 Toyota Turcel with 70K on it. Great mileage, easy to get to everything and work on. We had a 94 Sable for our older dtr. (now at college, and doesn't drive). The Sable was a maintanence headache.
 

SC-Eric

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After all its transportation for them and who cares about looking good?
christ my first vehicle was a VW bug.

That was my first car... I worked... saved money... and paid for it!

My kids are still young (3,7,11)... Anyway, under NO circumstances will I purchase a car for any of them. My plan is to allow them to work, save money, and buy what they can afford! I'm of the opinion that children are mature enough to drive when they are mature enough to demonstrate enough self discipline to save money! Anyway, we each have to figure out what is best for OUR kids... they're all different. Anyway, I've got at least 5 years to change my mind... lol... But... I don't think I will!
 

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Toyota Tercels were the bare bones of the Toyota cars and very reliable. Too bad they discontinued in in 95 or 96.
Older Taurus prior to 2000 were known for early failure of forward piston in AX4S/4N ******; it would fail and leave you on the road with no warning.

I've worked on plenty of these in my shop over the years...The older Ford Taurus' would tend to drain your wallet very quickly...
 

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Honda Civic... easy to work on, good on gas, never break down..

Jeep TJ.... they can bump into curbs and cars, with little to no damage:)
 

Palf

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I got my daughter a 96 Bonneville, 3.8L...nothing special. She has been using it for a little over 3 years now and it has been a good solid car. 165,000 and going strong. She is putting about 420 miles a week onit commuting to college and averages 25is in mixed town/highway driving. It will still give a consistent 29 on highway cruises. To me any of the GM;s with the 3.8 engine is a great combo for them to start with.
 

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Call your insurance man to recommend models that are inexpensive to insure. Some cars are expensive to insure because they are involved in a lot of wrecks(I do not call them accidents because they are not accidental) or are costly to repair. A heavier car will protect the kids better. And for God's sake give them as much practice in bad road conditions and keep them off the cell phone. Just my $.02 learned from personal experience.
 

gesoffen

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I'll add my opinions to the sounding board here..

1) I agree with the "let them work to buy it" crowd. The kids will appreciate a car that they have their own time and money invested in much more than a "gimme". Of course, since you'll be the monetary backup, insurer and overall responsible adult, provide guidelines and advice for the purchase. Just because it is their money, don't let them get whatever they want - set some basic rules.

2) Go for the newest car that money can buy. They newer the car, the more sophisticated the active and passive safety features. While no formal studies have been conducted, there have been several informal studies that show newer cars with better safety equipment and designs fare far better than older cars regardless of comparative size.

3) I'd avoid large, ungainly cars. I learned from sailing, that the smaller, more fleet of foot the "vehicle" is, the more you learn from control input and corrections. By this same principle, I'd require a manual transmission too. A lot easier to teach a new driver to drive manual.

4) Above and beyond everything else. regardless of what car you purchase, make sure you set $700 - $1000 aside/ per kid for enrollment into a teen driving clinic and car control clinic. These clinics should be mandatory for all new drivers (and are great refreshers for the experienced drivers too). They teach these kids all the basics (look through the turn, brake before turning, etc.) plus the life savers like skid control, accident avoidance, etc. These clinics generally run about $250 a piece but I'd recommend having them participate in one or both before they are given unrestricted driving privileges and again after a few thousand miles of experience. In many cases, insurance companies offer a discount to "graduates" and your kids will come away with a true appreciation for the dangers of everyday driving plus the tools required to survive those dangers.
 

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I got my daughter a 96 Bonneville, 3.8L...nothing special. She has been using it for a little over 3 years now and it has been a good solid car. 165,000 and going strong. She is putting about 420 miles a week onit commuting to college and averages 25is in mixed town/highway driving. It will still give a consistent 29 on highway cruises. To me any of the GM;s with the 3.8 engine is a great combo for them to start with.

I agree, 3.8 is good engine. Problem area is where EGR pipe passes under plastic upper air plenumn; heat from EGR will burn hole in factory plenumn and cause coolant to gradually dump into engine and trash it out big time. Key an eye on this if it has not been replaced by upgraded OEM or aftermarket part. 100% failure rate on these.
Since you already have 165k on this, it probably has already been replaced; still keep eye on engine oil to make sure it dones not have coolant contamination.
I've done alot of these in my shop:bounce:
 
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Yotaforce

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I like the VW bug. I keep showing my kids some pictures of custom bugs online trying to convince them that they can be cool little cars. I also told them that they could get a job and buy their own car and I would buy the VW back to turn into a drag car.
 

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my choice would be a toyota pick-up and here's why:
1) kids beat the heck out of thier first vehicle. Toy pick-up's are nigh indestructable, and even with a goodly bit of damage, they're still worth something when the kid goes to trade it in on his/her next car
2) the 4 banger's are slow. slow is good for a kid. they're also thrifty; 28-30 mpg on a 2wd is not uncommon.
3) safety. nothing beats a full frame vehicle for imact resistance. a toy pick up is tough enough to take a serious hit, but it's light enough that if your kid screws-up, he/she doesn't flatten a minvan full of nuns. I personally hate when parents give thier kids the keys to the vista cruiser. It's like giving them a sledgehammer to swing at whatever gets in thier way. while it's nice to make sure your kid is safe, show some responsibility for other people on the road, too. case point: I knew a kid who in high school plowed his used caprice into a smaller car and killed the infant in the back seat and paralyed the mother. he NEVER got over it.
4) the great thing about a pick-up is that it really only seats two. you can squeeze two in the back of an extra-cab, but it's a short trip last resort. if your kid gets in an accident, this obviously limits his/her and your liability when it comes to additional passenters.
5) whatever you get, make sure it's a 96+ model with second gen airbags.. I'd rather have no airbags than a first generation airbag.
 

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I'd require a manual transmission too. A lot easier to teach a new driver to drive manual.

I agree that every person should be able to drive a car with a manual ****** the cars are normally cheaper to buy. Also its a lot cheaper to replace a clutch then it is to rebuild a automatic ******.

I don't know if its best to have a maunal ****** for their first car. My second car was a manual ****** just so I had some time driving before I had to pay attention to shifting
 

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I vote for a 4 cylinder Mustang. My daughter's car is the green one in front of mine. Then when they want to go fast and have experience, it will hold a 460 based stroker big block. :beer: And the insurance company will go by the VIN and think it is a 4 banger forever.

I agree, my 1st car a a 93 four banger, I still have the car my husband has taken it over now and put a v8 in it, I stopped driving it because it was have electrical problems, but it had 220,000 miles on it. Very dependable.
 

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I agree, my 1st car a a 93 four banger, I still have the car my husband has taken it over now and put a v8 in it, I stopped driving it because it was have electrical problems, but it had 220,000 miles on it. Very dependable.

Looks like a great daily driver to the grocery store and the like! :lol_hitti
 

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I would get my kid a Miata if he wasn't getting my current driver in four years. It's a '98 VW GTI with the VR6 engine. Bright yellow, and stick shift of course; if my kids are going to drive they're going to drive stick!

He'd probably be better off in the Miata. Enough power but not too much, excellent handling, easy to work on, and good on gas. A two seater looks cool and he can't haul all his friends around. Kids seem to drive worse when there is a whole bunch in the car.
 

pmpski_1

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I was thinking about getting my daughter an old car for her 12th birthday. Something that needs bodywork, an engine, and some other work. If she wants to drive by her 16th birthday she'll need to get to work. I'm thinking that if she puts her blood sweat and tears into it she won't go out and wreck it.

That being said, even though I love the old cars I'm starting to appreciate modern safety features.
 

davestlouis

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I have 4 86-87 BMW E28-body cars, 528e's and a 535i. My kids can all drive manual transmissions, and the 528e's are great: I have not spent over $1000 on one yet, they are easy to work on and get 27-28 MPG in normal driving. They are slow enough to not invite racing and whatnot and they take a hit well, as I've found out on several occasions. They do need more tinkering than an Asian car, but I don't mind that.
 

itb76

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...That being said, even though I love the old cars I'm starting to appreciate modern safety features.
I like that they start all the time! When I learned to drive (early '80s) a lot of cars didn't start in cold weather, and mileage over 100,000 was considered quite high.
 

CaptinCrash

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My opion get them something with frame rails my dad is a bigger car advocate He put me in a 87 f250 diesel when i asked him why he said he knew i could survive just about any crash i got into and i couldn't speed thats what he did and thats what I'll do with my child
 

NWOhioChevyGuy

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I agree with working and buying your own philosophy but I will more than likely have a Chevy Silverado with around 200K miles on it when they start driving. Two daughters now 12 & 13, we live in the country and a extended cab 4x4 truck will do all they need and it will be safe. Also will allow them to do "chores" for Mom & Dad as needed.

As far as the kids tearing up the car, if they own it they can do what they want and bear the brunt of their actions.

If they drive your car, then you make the rules and if they break the rules or the car they either fix it or loose the ride.

Teaching moments are everywhere in every day life, use them wisely and you and your kids will win.
 
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