Car Guy Garage linkable T8s

[Squirlz]

Work starts on our 28x40 next week. 11' walls with scissor trusses. I'm interested in these lights:

$214 for each set of 4. I'm thinking 4 sets. A separate switched plug for each would add versatility. Thoughts or ideas? Thanks in advance. I've learned so much in a short time here.

 

[Stuart in MN]

Do you have a make, model, part number, or a web link? They look nice but it's difficult to comment without more information.

 

[Squirlz]

Sure, here's the product listing

http://www.carguygarage.com/quadruplelongli.html

 

[mrb]

interesting, but i highly doubt that product is UL listed, and i also question if installation as shown is nec compliant.

 

[kbs2244]

It doesn’t look like anything you couldn’t do with Wiremold.

But if it new construction, why not do it right?

A $1000.00 should buy you some good wiring.

 

[ratdoggy]

I was looking at them in Menards last year. The last time I was in there they didn't have them. They were pricey. But on the other hand they were a neat idea.
BTW there are 4 lights for $216

 

[Norcal]

I see the wiring between the fixtures as violating NEC 400.8(1) and (4).

400.8 Uses Not Permitted. Unless specifically permitted
in 400.7, flexible cords and cables shall not be used for the
following:
(1) As a substitute for the fixed wiring of a structure
(2) Where run through holes in walls, structural ceilings,
suspended ceilings, dropped ceilings, or floors
(3) Where run through doorways, windows, or similar
openings
(4) Where attached to building surfaces
Exception to (4): Flexible cord and cable shall be permitted
to be attached to building surfaces in accordance with the
provisions of 368.56(B)
(5) Where concealed by walls, floors, or ceilings or located
above suspended or dropped ceilings
(6) Where installed in raceways, except as otherwise permitted
in this Code
(7) Where subject to physical damage


The exception to #4 does not apply here as it pertains to busway.


This a copy & paste from the 2008 NEC, which is unchanged from the 2002 & 2005 editions.

 

[swaterbenny]

I see the wiring between the fixtures as violating NEC 400.8(1) and (4).

400.8 Uses Not Permitted. Unless specifically permitted
in 400.7, flexible cords and cables shall not be used for the
following:
(1) As a substitute for the fixed wiring of a structure
(2) Where run through holes in walls, structural ceilings,
suspended ceilings, dropped ceilings, or floors
(3) Where run through doorways, windows, or similar
openings
(4) Where attached to building surfaces
Exception to (4): Flexible cord and cable shall be permitted
to be attached to building surfaces in accordance with the
provisions of 368.56(B)
(5) Where concealed by walls, floors, or ceilings or located
above suspended or dropped ceilings
(6) Where installed in raceways, except as otherwise permitted
in this Code
(7) Where subject to physical damage


The exception to #4 does not apply here as it pertains to busway.


This a copy & paste from the 2008 NEC, which is unchanged from the 2002 & 2005 editions.

The way I see the product is that the cord is not attached it simply lays under a plastic cover, which is attached, but not a raceway.

Ben

 

[Norcal]

The way I see the product is that the cord is not attached it simply lays under a plastic cover, which is attached, but not a raceway.

Ben

It would be a stretch to not call it a raceway.

 

[mrb]

has someone emailed the seller to see if the product is listed? i would be suprised if it is.

 

[mrb]

It would be a stretch to not call it a raceway.

yeah, and this is clearly an instance of the cord being used as a substitute for fixed premesis wiring.

 

[djb2]

There isn't any code problem with a regular outlet feeding a detachable power cord for this type of lighting, nor with having both IEC C13 and C14 connectors on the lighting.

You commonly see this type of chained lighting under kitchen counters using IEC C5+C6 or C7+C8 connections.

I could see an inspector requiring a single hard-wired permanent lighting fixture in order to consider this plug-in lighting. But it would be stretch to disallow this lighting when other surface mounted or hanging plug-in shop lights are unquestionably allowed as the primary and permanent lighting.

The situation would be completely different with recessed or built-in lighting.

Oh, and make certain to always call that channel a "trim cover" not a "raceway" so as to not raise the issue. Covered wiring is the most likely aspect to be a problem.