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speedoo51

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I want to add a car port to the front of my garage..Attached to garage and extending out 20' and being 24' wide..I would like to have a support posts at the two outside corners..What can I use for a 24' span to support the roofing? I get snow here so snow load involved.. Lams, I-beam? Pic shows basic lay out figuring on light truss on 16" center, would like to not have columns at end like in pic but at out most corners..
 

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You want posts at the outer corners, so that leaves you with little or no cantilever. That solves a lot of problems.
My first stop would be the local code office. If they require a stamped plan, you need a design professional (architect or engineer) to design, draw and stamp it. They you and the code office will have the details and your problem is solved. I spent about 10 years in a county code office reviewing plans, issuing permits and inspecting construction. I would not issue a permit for that span without a stamped plan.
If no stamped plans are required, a good lumber yard can have their laminated beam supplier take the sketch and design the beam to support your roof. I built one that was 14 feet out and 24 feet wide with only two corner posts at the outside corners. It took three 14" tall by 1 3/4" thick microlam beams fastened together to support the roof framing members. It has been 25 years and it is still straight. We have 35 lbs. square foot snow load. I had lots of help to carry those microlams around the house and put them in place.
With a big beam and framing above, it will not be as slender as you sketched it at the end away from the existing structure.
 
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I would discuss this with an architect before nailing up roof lines that may make that place look like a shelter erected with reefer boxes.
 
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speedoo51

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You want posts at the outer corners, so that leaves you with little or no cantilever. That solves a lot of problems.
My first stop would be the local code office. If they require a stamped plan, you need a design professional (architect or engineer) to design, draw and stamp it. They you and the code office will have the details and your problem is solved. I spent about 10 years in a county code office reviewing plans, issuing permits and inspecting construction. I would not issue a permit for that span without a stamped plan.
If no stamped plans are required, a good lumber yard can have their laminated beam supplier take the sketch and design the beam to support your roof. I built one that was 14 feet out and 24 feet wide with only two corner posts at the outside corners. It took three 14" tall by 1 3/4" thick microlam beams fastened together to support the roof framing members. It has been 25 years and it is still straight. We have 35 lbs. square foot snow load. I had lots of help to carry those microlams around the house and put them in place.
With a big beam and framing above, it will not be as slender as you sketched it at the end away from the existing structure.

You have given me a lot of insight..I wanted to get an idea of beam required and at 14" that would be the about max I'd want to see, so you had to use three so I may be at four or more! Last time I hired an architect cost me a lot of money for something I couldn't use..A suggestion has been made to use steel, I have thought of that but need an example to reference an architect to so I get what I want..I wanted to match the pitch of the other roof in front of house so that makes 80" diff. can't handle that..
 
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kursplat

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inside the garage seems to be taller than 7'. only mentioned the car port height because seems like i'm always wishing i had more room than i originally thought would be enough
 

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then why is the inside taller than 7'? :)

Ever have a delivery done by UPS, Fedex or a contractor that is doing other work. I suggest that go higher at the front a minimum of 8' or better. Some of the SUV's and pickups are right at the limit of 7' and those are the 2WD ones. 4WD and even if your garage doors are 7' you can still park it under the carport. When I had the carport built between my steel pole building and house I had it at 10'. I do park my pickup truck in the carport a lot of the time in the carport.
 
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speedoo51

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I understand the height concerns and it would not be hard to up it a foot..Its really great to have thoughts and other points of view..
 

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Inspection departments around here let the homeowner submit hand drawings and do the work as long as it meets code. So, if you are going to do the work, don’t hire an architect as they only draw up the plans. Do that yourself. Hire a civil engineer to do the calculations, talk to them, have a conversation about what options are available to do what you want to do.

When I built my workshop, I used generic plans from a kit plan from a local building supply. I took those to the civil engineer and they reviewed the plan, created a concrete foundation plan, and stamped the drawings. I submitted that to the county. It was like $250 for the engineering.

Architects draw the design, engineers do the calculations. The inspection dept wants to see the engineer stamp which essentially means the calculations have been done. An astute architect would work with a engineer or through experience kind of know what you can and can’t do, but architects are more on the design side. An architect could draw something that can’t be feasibly built, but it looks great on paper. The engineer has to work out the stress level in the structural members. Anything can be done, given enough time and money. It an issue of what is reasonable/feasible. The engineer will help with that.
 
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speedoo51

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gearhead1: I checked at the town hall when I first thought of the car port venture and they said that I don't need a permit but they want to see the plans..So thanks for the info..When I built my garage addition I had an Architect draw up plans..What a god awfull rendition [2700.00] of what I wanted but I got the permit..I changed so much but every time I had it inspected it passed with colors..So you are right I really don't need an Architect and I will look for a civil engineer..
 
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