Carlyle at NAPA Pricing...

[Jtels85]

Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed the prices of Carlyle Tools appear to have been marked down? I’m not talking sale prices either. The regular price of most of their items seems to be cheaper.

For example, the 24 piece long combination wrench set used to be $259. Now it’s $169.36. #CWL1219M

Ratchets seem cheaper too... sale price totals are always listed in green, these are not, they’re black... indicating regular price.

Am I missing something or am I on to something? Help me out here.

 

[drtyler]

Does the price change depending on which store you have set?

 

[Mr_B]

Main issue with carlyle was always prices bit too steep so maybe they figured that too at last ...
If they kept prices down and kept more stock and expanded range a bit they could of been killing other mid range brands .

 

[Yarpo]

Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed the prices of Carlyle Tools appear to have been marked down? I’m not talking sale prices either. The regular price of most of their items seems to be cheaper.

For example, the 24 piece long combination wrench set used to be $259. Now it’s $169.36. #CWL1219M

Ratchets seem cheaper too... sale price totals are always listed in green, these are not, they’re black... indicating regular price.

Am I missing something or am I on to something? Help me out here.

That model number shows 259 for me online at the moment.

 

[dmaxfireman]

Hopefully you are on to something, I'm looking to get a 6pt ratcheting wrench set RWFL612M

 

[APS2000]

Did a little investigating. Had to find a store. Thanks for the tip. Just bought it. Free shipping but had to pay the tax.

 

[APS2000]

BTW the SAE is CWL1218 $175.89

 

[APS2000]

Hopefully you are on to something, I'm looking to get a 6pt ratcheting wrench set RWFL612M

$239 is published price. I see it for $161.07. Last Real Deal flyer had it for $121.99

 

[Jtels85]

Shows up for me and the price isn’t marked green to indicate a sale. I’m also not logged into the site.

But even the ratchets are way cheaper than they used to be. So I don’t know.

 

[APS2000]

^ The site used your phone location. See the store area code?

 

[Jtels85]

^ The site used your phone location. See the store area code?

Ah, I do now! When I logged in, same price.

 

[Jtels85]

BTW the SAE is CWL1218 $175.89

I have the metric set. That’s a really good deal on the SAE. I have metric wrench sets out the ***. My only SAE set are USA Craftsman raised panels. I don’t use SAE often, but they would be nice to have. I may order them tomorrow (Pay day)

 

[APS2000]

Save that store location for future reference. You might be able to get some good deals until it's nerfed.

 

[APS2000]

I have the metric set. That’s a really good deal on the SAE. I have metric wrench sets out the ***. My only SAE set are USA Craftsman raised panels. I don’t use SAE often, but they would be nice to have. I may order them tomorrow (Pay day)

Same here. I have USA craftsman too.

The comparable ChannelLocks are part number SNNSL17. Last year cheapest I found was $107.86. Current pricing is around $120. Its a 17 pcs set. I'm not sure which one is excluded compared to the Carlyle.

 

[Jrems]

Anyone have a problem buying carlyle stuff? i dont think theres a single napa in my state that stocks anything

 

[PR1Gneon]

Maybe they realized their products are china quality.

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[Skin]

Maybe they realized their products are china quality.

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[APS2000]

Anyone have a problem buying carlyle stuff? i dont think theres a single napa in my state that stocks anything

Pick another store location perhaps, another state?

I just placed my order online but it was in the same state. I don't think you would have any problem ordering as long as you have an account and the store offers delivery.

 

[Jtels85]

Maybe they realized their products are china quality.

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Interesting statement. I’d put most of my Carlyle tools up against Snap On, Matco, SK, Cornwell... and they would do the tough jobs and hold up just a well, at 1/2 the price.

 

[Zewnten]

I don't know that I could say Carlyle is comparable to the tool trucks and I'm no tool truck fan boy. I find Carlyle's quality control to be very lacking. I had a set the SAE anti slip wrenches and one of the largest wrenches was missing half it's chrome. Ithought fine, I'll warranty it but no Napa, at least my Napa, made a big hassle out of it; wanted me to return the whole set before they would order a replacement, same when I broke the long locking 3/8's ratchet they wanted to give me credit for what I bought it at and charge me the difference. Do they both turn a bolt, yes but my Snap On's weigh half what the Carlyle's did and when I bought them used of the truck were about the same price as the Carlyle's.

 

[Yarpo]

I don't know that I could say Carlyle is comparable to the tool trucks and I'm no tool truck fan boy. I find Carlyle's quality control to be very lacking. I had a set the SAE anti slip wrenches and one of the largest wrenches was missing half it's chrome. Ithought fine, I'll warranty it but no Napa, at least my Napa, made a big hassle out of it; wanted me to return the whole set before they would order a replacement, same when I broke the long locking 3/8's ratchet they wanted to give me credit for what I bought it at and charge me the difference. Do they both turn a bolt, yes but my Snap On's weigh half what the Carlyle's did and when I bought them used of the truck were about the same price as the Carlyle's.

Not sure I would either. I like my Carlyle tools and the ones I got (and kept) are excellent at the price point.

However I too had a miserable experience with Napa and the warranty due to a QC issue. Somebodies returns got sent back to Carlyle, and then sent to me. The tools were heavily used, rusted and one of the ratchets locked up. It's funny because everyone always tells you how easy and great a companies warranty is...until it isn't.

 

[BDT/NWMN]

I'd also recommend Carlyle for an easily accessible cheaper tool with decent quality, but wouldn't put them at tool truck quality at all.

I buy them when I need something NOW, and they work. But, they are definitely asian meciocre quality, not top end at all.

This is also ""somewhat"" My thought on NAPA's Carlyle tool line. Run of the mill Asian tools built to fill a contract with NAPA. I couldn't force Myself to pay those NAPA prices, and the NAPA store is not nearby and convenient. In My case, the nearest one is a 40 mile round trip. Tools not in stock in the store could be easily ordered online, and either shipped to the store or My home.

But; at this point; I order NAME BRAND tools from multiple online sources, with a far better selection and prices. I have recently bought Tekton, Sunex, Gear Wrench, Shankly, and other "cheapo" tools to fill in some tool voids. I have often done this when I cannot justify Proto or Snap-on purchases.

I haven't mentioned Harbor Freight. I am satisfied with My HF impact sockets; which were bought either in the store, or ordered online for a $7.50 shipping charge... Not that I have any interest in a purchase; but Harbor Freight's new ICON line is supposedly going to be face to face competition with NAPA's Carlyle line. This competition ""may"" be the reason for some of the Carlyle price reductions that have been mentioned.

Carlyle tools may well be the choice for many GJ Members.. But, for Me personally, I have no need or desire to buy any.

 

[BK13]

Anyone have a problem buying carlyle stuff? i dont think theres a single napa in my state that stocks anything

Most of the stores around me carry a decent selection of Carlyle stuff and were only too happy to order in the weird stuff that I usually wanted.

 

[bwringer]

Here in Indy, we're lucky -- the Napa down near the airport is actually a storefront hanging off the front of a regional warehouse.

They have a pretty complete display of Carlyle tools on the wall, and they stock damn near EVERYTHING. If it's not hanging on the wall, ask to look it up and odds are good they'll be able to pull it from the warehouse in a few minutes. Plus, it's open extended hours seven days a week. That place has saved the day for me several times.

Advance/Carquest also has the same sort of storefront/warehouse out on the west side.

They don't really advertise this stuff, but poke around a little at the auto parts stores in your area and you can sometimes figure out where stuff is coming from and save yourself some time.

And yeah, most of the Carlyle stuff is upper-tier Asian stuff, mostly made in Taiwan. Great tools generally but you can often find the same Taiwanese tools a lot cheaper under other brand names. It goes on sale fairly frequently, anyway.

Napa does have a lower-tier Chinese tool line for the bargain hunters. Carlyle is a distinct cut above.

 

[dnschmidt]

I think it depends upon where you live. In Phoenix there is no issue whatsoever with Carlyle. NAPA has a huge statewide distribution center here and it's next day everything from any NAPA store in the neighborhood. HF's ICON stuff is going to change the game a lot. If it's as good as Fedwrench says it is they are going to be a threat to everyone. HF haters can start whining now.

The upscale movement of Harbor Freight is one of the many reasons I stopped my TOPTUL adventure. If it's as good as TOPTUL and available at Harbor Freight then the game's over was my way of looking at it.

 

[Mr_B]

Interesting statement. I’d put most of my Carlyle tools up against Snap On, Matco, SK, Cornwell... and they would do the tough jobs and hold up just a well, at 1/2 the price.

Yeh select tools are certainly on par with some of the truck brands and at flyer deal prices very good value .
Like all brands, just pick what they do well and you do well

 

[Rabid Badger]

Carlyle tools are ridiculously overpriced. Their combo wrenches aren't any better than Tekton and are almost 3x the cost. They have the extra grip feature on the open end, but if a bolt is being stubborn I'll just break it loose with the box end and not worry about marring every fastener I touch.

Their ratchets are a marginal improvement over Pittsburgh Pro. That is, when they aren't the exact same product:

https://www.harborfreight.com/38-in-drive-indexable-head-ratchet-62316.html

https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/CHQR38SP

Now I'm not saying they're bad tools. I love my extra long 1/2 ratchet. But I paid $41 for it, not $144.

 

[Handyandy23]

Carlyle tools are ridiculously overpriced. Their combo wrenches aren't any better than Tekton and are almost 3x the cost. They have the extra grip feature on the open end, but if a bolt is being stubborn I'll just break it loose with the box end and not worry about marring every fastener I touch.

Their ratchets are a marginal improvement over Pittsburgh Pro. That is, when they aren't the exact same product:

https://www.harborfreight.com/38-in-drive-indexable-head-ratchet-62316.html

https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/CHQR38SP

Now I'm not saying they're bad tools. I love my extra long 1/2 ratchet. But I paid $41 for it, not $144.

I'd agree that Tekton at a higher price is an accurate statement. Up here in Canada we have "Ultra Pro" instead of Carlyle branding in NAPA, and I've played with the tools, and they seem to just be good import quality at a ballooned price.

The tools seem nice enough, and I'd have no problem buying them at a good price, but even on sale the flex head ratchets (I think 90T?) were around $60-$75 CDN each. I got a very similar set of ratchets that are very nice quality from Tekton for half that price or less.

 

[rtz]

20% off code:

https://www.napaonline.com/en/get-s...lCoupon_VolumeDIY_FB&utm_content=VolumeDIY_FB

 

[APS2000]

20% off code:

https://www.napaonline.com/en/get-s...lCoupon_VolumeDIY_FB&utm_content=VolumeDIY_FB

Thank you! I applied it to my order.

 

[bubinga]

That model number shows 259 for me online at the moment.

Hopefully you are on to something, I'm looking to get a 6pt ratcheting wrench set RWFL612M

Did a little investigating. Had to find a store. Thanks for the tip. Just bought it. Free shipping but had to pay the tax.

One store was $259.00, but another store with in 15 miles is $169.36.
So you'd have to shop around.
https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/CHQCWL1219M?ref=MA==

 

[Wamsutta]

Nevermind the privately owned franchises. Go to a NAPA corporate distribution center if you want Carlyle. The customer service is always better at corporate.

 

[M6erfan]

Yeah, the franchises are hit or miss. I have two near me, one is OK the other is great.

 

[JR 42]

Finally! My local, probably corporate store used to run Carlyle pricing at around 40% off list every so often, and seemed to have given up in the last two years, but are doing so again. I think it might be the last NAPA in Seattle...

The problem with NAPA and Carlyle is that it's very store dependant- some folks get same- day service, so the price seems reasonable compared to truck brands. Others, not so much.

 

[Tallpilot]

I have a good amount of Napa stores around me. They have a decent amount of onesie twosie Carlyle tools. They are also willing to order anything for me. One thing that bothers me is that sometimes They want to charge me extra to order something. I have said no every time this issue came up. I remember trying to order a 22-24 offset double box end wrench, and they wanted to charge me over the website price. That pissed me off.

I have some Carlyle mid-length chrome sockets, chrome swivel sockets, and metric offset double box end wrenches. They are really nice. They were not particularly cheap, even at Real Deal prices. I have zero regrets about buying them.

That's the way my store is. Anything that has to come from out of the state has shipping charges higher than the website. Sometimes I talk them into just getting it from the normal warehouse order (that takes several weeks) so I don't have to pay shipping.

What I don't understand is why they have tools on the website that can't be ordered online. That's not a very good business model for 2019.

 

[Jtels85]

I guess we can agree to disagree. I’ve used my buddy’s Dual 80’s working on his SRT4, I wasn’t that impressed.

I have a complete set of MAC Axis ratchets and while they’re nice and really good quality, I just prefer my Power 90 Carlyle’s. I trust them a lot more than my MAC’s. Same principle applies with my Carlyle long pattern wrenches. I think they’re better quality than my MAC Precision Torque Set. I’m sure both would hold up to significant abuse, both are made in Taiwan, but Carlyle has some tools that in my opinion are rather competitive with tool truck brands. Hell, Carlyle screwdrivers are pretty damn solid tools.

 

[65k10]

Weren’t the Carlyle screwdrivers made by Witte at some point?

I think the Witte made screwdrivers were just called Napa Professional or something like that.

 

[kythri]

I wish that I had bought that set.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NAPA-8-PC-Professional-Combination-Screwdriver-Set-NHT-DW-108/112770291014