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I was at Napa today buying a belt for my truck and see that they just started carrying the carlyle name which maybe only for napa. They are Taiwan made which I thought was good, seems better quality from there, and the wrenches were long pattern that I looked at and the chrome was very nice and had a deep sheen to it unlike a lot of foreign and american made tools where the chrome is distorted with some chroming blems.

Has anyone purchased these or had any experience with these. I was going to buy there screwdriver set but figured I spent enough the last few weeks on tools.
 
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I saw the screwdriver set today when our rep came around. They felt cheap and looked cheap but I didnt try them. Who knows could be good, the gw ones arent bad and I had assumed they would **** too in the beginning.
 
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Evidently it's a new house brand for NAPA.

The website says they're launching this month.

http://carlyletools.org/

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Instead of listening to speculation by people who haven't actually used the tools.... i decided to buy a bunch of it myself and find out.

I have two 3/8" ratchets, a set of metric flare wrenches, a 6mm-24mm full polish metric combo wrench set, and a 25-32mm 1/2" deep 6pt socket set on the way, with plans to buy MUCH more of it in the coming months.
 
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I was just checking this video out. Looks like the Carlyle ratchets are made like the new Cornwell 72 ratchets. The ratchet head looks like the old Dura Last/ Snap On ratchets with a Cornwell 72 lock for the guts. Look at. :13 in video.
 
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concealer404 said:
Instead of listening to speculation by people who haven't actually used the tools.... i decided to buy a bunch of it myself and find out.

I have two 3/8" ratchets, a set of metric flare wrenches, a 6mm-24mm full polish metric combo wrench set, and a 25-32mm 1/2" deep 6pt socket set on the way, with plans to buy MUCH more of it in the coming months.
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what do ya think so far? I'm liking what I'm seeing so far
 
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awesome, post some pics as well. I want them to get the website up so that I can scroll through there tools.

The wrenches has a nice look, and an interesting open end.
 
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FWIW, those that are worried that the catalog looks incomplete... it is.

There's a second "wave" coming Jan 1.
 
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I just came from my NAPA dealer. No Carlyle tools yet. Just Evercraft on the tool board. Also no gearWrench to be found either.
 
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yeah i just looked through the whole catalog...looked really impressive. but then looked at a few things online its too rich for my blood of doing basic repair stuff. probably gonna be an awesome tool though
 
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I spoke to the gentleman that owns the local Napa today, He feels the prices are a little to high also and thinks that they may have to do a pricing adjustment in the future. I like what I'm seeing personally, they have just about everything.

Also, he told me that the Carlyle tool brand is based off of Carlyle Fraser, the man that started napa. He said they are pushing to be a better brand then Craftsman and as good as tool truck quality. Everything that I messed with felt good in the hand and had a nice balance to it. I'm going to be purchasing some in the future. The fact that the warranty is lifetime and good at any Napa is good with me also.
 
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just a comparison i put up in the other thread of "similiar" items(take that with a grain of salt...i know coo and tooth count are different but overall these are competing items)
these prices were taken from companies website(except gearwrench was the price right now i found on sears.com)
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im just going off the site.
3/8 100 tooth $66 bucks
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3/8 80 tooth $98
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3/8 matco 88 tooth $102
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3/8 gearwrench (will be 84 teeth soon if not already) $46
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I wouldn't necessarily say that. For someone like me without a doubt. Cheaper outlay, high enough teeth that it really doesn't matter, and can exchange at advanced or sears. But for a pro that has napa bringing parts to the shop already these are a great deal and pretty innovative with the 90 and 100 tooth on the roto's. Only downfall is resale if you ever got in a jam down the road or something. But you can't go buying tools cause of resale plus you would lose at least what the difference in price most likely
 
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as for ratchets, Wright and Armstrong both have USA made 3/8 at under $40. just sayin'
 
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I think the long pattern combo wrenches look nice,especially with the flank drive plus knock off on the open end.Knowing Napa on prices before,I'd say the tools will not be that cheap but I will be looking into the wrenches.I can't wait to see them in person,my local store doesn't have them in yet.
 
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I stopped by a NAPA store over lunch. They had some Carlyle wrench sets, socket sets, a screwdriver set, and a pliers set. No open stock, so I couldn't examine anything except the wrenches, which were in a plastic rack inside a plastic bag. The chrome was flawless, but the tarted-up open end is kind of overkill in my opinion. There were no prices on anything so I had to yell out the part numbers to the counter guy and he typed them into his computer. The SAE wrench set was $130. A SAE 3/8" deep socket set (sockets only, no ratchet) was $50. For tools made in Taiwan those prices seemed a bit high to me so I passed. Maybe if they go on sale later, I'll try some.

The counter man said all the NAPA Professional tools were on sale for half price. I picked up a couple of open stock screwdrivers (the ones with the yellow and blue handles made in Germany by Witte, I think), thinking they would be half price, but they weren't. The sets were, but the store had none in stock.

The counter man was surprised when I pointed out the "Made in Taiwan" on the Carlyle packaging. He said he assumed they were made in the US.
 
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1982fxr said:
as for ratchets, Wright and Armstrong both have USA made 3/8 at under $40. just sayin'
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Got a link for the 3/8" cushion grip long 90 tooth Armstrong or Wright ratchet for under $40? I'd be interested in seeing that. :)
 
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cascivic said:
just a comparison i put up in the other thread of "similiar" items(take that with a grain of salt...i know coo and tooth count are different but overall these are competing items)
these prices were taken from companies website(except gearwrench was the price right now i found on sears.com)
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Thanks for doing the research, i was curious about that. :)

However, if i must be nit-picky, only one (maybe two of those) are "long" ratchets.

That said, i'm pretty psyched that the Carlyle ratchet is 60-70% the price of the truck tools, and something that i can actually easily get in person myself. :D
 
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concealer404 said:
Thanks for doing the research, i was curious about that. :)

However, if i must be nit-picky, only one (maybe two of those) are "long" ratchets.

That said, i'm pretty psyched that the Carlyle ratchet is 60-70% the price of the truck tools, and something that i can actually easily get in person myself. :D
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none of the ones i compared are long

gearwrench 9.5"
snappy 9 9/16"
matco 8"
carlyle 9.562"
 
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none of the ones i compared are long

gearwrench 9.5"
snappy 9 9/16"
matco 8"
carlyle 9.562"
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Sorry, carry on then. :)

Pictures looked misleading. I'll report on what i think about the ratchet when i have it in my hand in the next day or two. :rocker:
 
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Is it just me or do they look like Duralast tools? I could be wrong, but I see a strong resemblance.
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Just you so far, but we can add Duralast to the list of things people think has been rebranded for the Carlyle brand without having seen them in person or really established what factories they're coming from. :lol_hitti

According to the propaganda distributed internally, they were Napa-designed, and are not rebadges. As to the true validity of that statement across the entire line, i can't say.
 
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concealer404 said:
Just you so far, but we can add Duralast to the list of things people think has been rebranded for the Carlyle brand without having seen them in person or really established what factories they're coming from. :lol_hitti

According to the propaganda distributed internally, they were Napa-designed, and are not rebadges. As to the true validity of that statement across the entire line, i can't say.
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Well, if I'm wrong, it wouldn't be the first time. We'll see when someone becomes the guinea pig and buys some and posts about it, it's hard to really tell from the pictures. Someone is making them, they're not just appearing! :bounce:
 
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Well, if I'm wrong, it wouldn't be the first time. We'll see when someone becomes the guinea pig and buys some and posts about it, it's hard to really tell from the pictures. Someone is making them, they're not just appearing! :bounce:
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Yes, someone is making them.... Taiwan factories are making Napa's designs. ;) Yes, they have copied some things about some tools, and some things about others. I have it on good authority they spent months skirting patents.

There's another thread right now that someone started who bought some.

I also have a fairly substantial first order with them. "An insider" tells me that my order has all been picked saved for my ratchets because of the holiday at the Indy distribution center/warehouse. ;)

Ordering a full set of Metric 6pt deep/shallow sockets in all drives, some pliers, and screwdrivers next week. :thumbup:
 
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I bought a few Carlyle items today. Pictures are in the new NAPA tool line thread. After taking the ratchet apart, I'm not sure if they're cloning other brands, or it's that they make the tools for the other brands. At any rate, I'll putz around at work with what I have for now to see if the line has potential.
 
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Aww I hate to see that... at least for me what I think is "good" is finding American made products, but each their own.
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I'm into to many manufacturing facilities to be on the American made band wagon. I buy a lot of Taiwan stuff. I don't see quality in American made. Besides I'm a heavy researcher before I buy big ticker items if foreign has the best feedback I go foreign if American made has best feedback I buy American.

Honestly though, I bet no one can honestly say that without American tools they would not be able to do there job. I've never heard someone say that they weren't able to finish a job because there tools were foreign made. American or foreign they al do the same job and they all fail in different manners.
 
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