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Carpentry question. Need door help

brihvac

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I have a question about door seals. My house was built in 1941. My porch door and my front door have the old style copper seals that go around the inside of the jam. My wife hates the way it sticks and bangs when you open the door. We priced a new porch door and front door. The porch door was $2K for just the door and the front is $2500 just for the door. The ONLY issue she has with these doors is the sticking and banging, other than that the doors are beautiful. I just don't see paying over $4K just for some banging. I know I can shave the door down so it does not stick, but it is still gonna make the banging sound from the copper seal. Is there any way to rip the copper seals out and use some other seal? I don't want that cheap stick on foam.
 
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lightn95

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the copper only really keeps out any driving rain.it has no insulation value to it like the foam weather strip. does your door get driving rain or is there a porch over it. if it NEVER gets driving rain, youll be fine pulling it off.
 

BlindViper

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the copper only really keeps out any driving rain.it has no insulation value to it like the foam weather strip. does your door get driving rain or is there a porch over it. if it NEVER gets driving rain, youll be fine pulling it off.

I have never seen a weather striping brass, copper, or foam add to the R value of a home. Weather stripping is used to stop air flow and thus stop heat/cool lose.

So the door is wood? If so you can plane the door down and remove the high spots. If you don't feel up to the task you should be able to find someone to do it. Personally I work for 225$ a day. So you could have it handled very cheaply. Can you take some pictures of the door and door jams so we can help you find a more wife friendly weather strip.
 

spotco2

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Just replace them with something from National Guard Products. They have several different styles of weatherstripping and I'm sure you will find something y'all can agree on.

Look at the Closer Seals. They attach with a metal frame to the door jamb and have a gasket that seals against the door. They are very popular in commercial applications but I've installed a lot on residential doors.

http://www.ngp.com/ngp/gasketing/
 
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Engineer61

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Actually a well fitted copper seal becomes air-tight and prevents any airflow around the door just as well as any of the rubber or foam seals. My front door is difficult to open & close because of how tight the air seal is on both the front door and the outside security door, when you try to open either door the increase in volume lowers the air pressure between the doors, when you try to close a door the decreasing volume traps air resulting in higher pressure between the doors. Yes, the air quickly leaks out, but not fast enough to make opening or closing the doors easy.
 
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brihvac

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I have never seen a weather striping brass, copper, or foam add to the R value of a home. Weather stripping is used to stop air flow and thus stop heat/cool lose.

So the door is wood? If so you can plane the door down and remove the high spots. If you don't feel up to the task you should be able to find someone to do it. Personally I work for 225$ a day. So you could have it handled very cheaply. Can you take some pictures of the door and door jams so we can help you find a more wife friendly weather strip.

If you were closer, I would have you here for a few days. I have a few small jobs I don't want to tackle by myself.

Oh, I was overruled on the front door. Ordered it. Hard to go against her since I just bought a new Harley
 

K'ledgeBldr

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Spring Bronze is still the best door sealer around- if you can find it. Then getting someone who knows how to install it properly is another thing!

The con- when it gets damaged the best repair is full piece replacement (see above). That's why spline foam core door sealer has become the norm. Doesn't last near as long as spring bronze but is easily replaceable.
 
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