CAT6 direct bury cmx cable - 500' minimum?

[Shovelhead]

First time shopper for this and I don't know much about it, but looking for direct bury CAT6. Anything under 500' looks like a terminated length? Custom as they say....
Where can I source a 250' or 100' roll of CAT6 direct bury? Good cable, not junk.
Thanks

 

[BrandonV]

For direct burial of twisted pair I would go with CommScope 1572A.

eBay is a good place to find people selling the cable outside of a standard 1000' or 3000' reel.

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I usually suggest conduit for this sort of install. You would still want to run a direct burial or gel filled cable in the conduit but it will permit futureproofing and prevent physical damage. The ideal situation would be to run fiber with media converters. Fiber eliminates concerns about lightning.

 

[Miss the Pontiacs]

If you know any electricians, they in turn will know some structured wire guys. Some even have their own supply. I used to do structured wire, with all the materials I still have i had to do some horse trading with another guy I knew. I ran 3 Cat 6’s to my garage at the lake.

 

[Shovelhead]

Thanks.
Fiber not out of the question but I’d be lost trying to figure out what gear to buy to make it hold hands with the CAT6 once in the house and shop.
I am just to the point of getting a little understanding of how this network stuff works, with the connecting of the cable from modem to switch with POE ports and then to device locations.

Will be running 2-3 cables from modem location in house closet up through the attic and out through the garage wall underground in a 1” conduit to my shop.

 

[BrandonV]

Fiber optic is pretty easy to work with and honestly is a lot cheaper and more reliable than twisted pair for a home network.

A pair of media converters & modules will cost you around $80.

Outdoor rated fiber optic cable would cost you around $150 (for 250ft). You purchase these pre-terminated.

After that it's plug & play without any need to configure anything. Feel free to PM me if you have more questions.

 

[tyromeo55]

In conduit, a run of the mill duplex fiber patch cable will last a LONG time. I wouldn't dare charge for doing this but have seen a lot worse in the field. That being said... Exactly how long a piece do you need? I probably have some gel filled DB6 tail pieces in the shop. I dont get on here often so message me if I dont quickly respond to the thread

 

[Kpaige]

I did a moca system from the house to the garage. Takes the signal off your router converts it to run through R8 coax then goes to another router in the garage and converts it back. Found for longer runs it’s a stronger signal.

 

[Innovate1]

You should really consider fiber. I lost some network and networked TV equipment in a lightening storm before going to fiber. I ran 1" conduit and had no problem pulling fiber through. I bent some long sweeps because I was doing that for power at the same time but not really needed. Conduit also leaves you with options for upgrades later. Details of what I used is here:
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/threads/100amp-to-shop-and-a-cat-6-wire.503467/post-9801327
Hookup is easy. Just hook a network cable to the converter at each end.

 

[Shovelhead]

Thanks men. And really appreciate the offer from tyromeo55.
Pretty sure I‘ve decided on fiber.
A couple folks on here have and are helping me out via PM.

How temperature sensitive are the gizmos you connect the fiber to that allows you to transition to the CAT6?
Can I make that transition and mount the equipment inside the garage wall, or should I run the fiber all the way from inside my shop underground in to the house garage and on to the closet where my modem and other ethernet switch will live?
Making the transition from fiber to ethernet in the garage would save on the run, runs, of fiber and allow more room in the closet.
Thanks

And I’ll gladly accept recommendations on brands and where y’all would buy all this equipment and cable.
I don’t want frugal to equal cheap, but I’m also not a wealthy man by todays standard.
Building a new house is financially shocking compared to the one we built in 1988.

 

[Shovelhead]

I should add that my main breaker panel for the house will be located in the garage one 16” stud bay from where my Comm cabling will enter via the 1” pvc.
I will also be crossing over/above my main service entrance from my xfmr pole to my meter on the shop.
That service is nearly 3’ deep in 2” pvc.

 

[Innovate1]

Thanks men. And really appreciate the offer from tyromeo55.
Pretty sure I‘ve decided on fiber.
A couple folks on here have and are helping me out via PM.

How temperature sensitive are the gizmos you connect the fiber to that allows you to transition to the CAT6?
Can I make that transition and mount the equipment inside the garage wall, or should I run the fiber all the way from inside my shop underground in to the house garage and on to the closet where my modem and other ethernet switch will live?
Making the transition from fiber to ethernet in the garage would save on the run, runs, of fiber and allow more room in the closet.
Thanks

And I’ll gladly accept recommendations on brands and where y’all would buy all this equipment and cable.
I don’t want frugal to equal cheap, but I’m also not a wealthy man by todays standard.
Building a new house is financially shocking compared to the one we built in 1988.

I wouldn't be too worried about that. They need to be protected from the weather (rain/snow/etc) but inside an unconditioned building shouldn't be an issue. I would change as soon as practical inside the building on each end.

 

[Shovelhead]

Thanks