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PhilJohn

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So, I will be putting in heat for my 40X40x16, fully insulated walls and ceiling. I decided to go with a Forced Air Heating LP Unit. I am thinking a large industrial type shop/ceiling fan would help circulate the hot air among other additional benefits, and would generally just look pretty damn cool too.

I've done some research and it seems they are relatively cheap, or outrageously expensive, and reviews for each unit seems to be all over the map.

Does anyone have any experience with this sort of set up, or recommendations on a model/brand that they have used/like?

Any suggestions would be gratefully appreciated. Thank you in advance.

Phil from Minnesota.
 
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At that height a tube heater would be ideal. They're more comfortable than forced air heat in my opinion, they run a lot cheaper too. Also would eliminate the need for ceiling fans in the winter.

They are very common in this area for a reason.
 
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PhilJohn

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At that height a tube heater would be ideal. They're more comfortable than forced air heat in my opinion, they run a lot cheaper too. Also would eliminate the need for ceiling fans in the winter.

They are very common in this area for a reason.

I have 2 contractors coming Tuesday for bids. Ill be sure to ask about that. Thanks.
 

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My experience is that if you can mount the fan on a down-rod it seems to help a lot with circulation vs. putting it tight to the ceiling.

Even the 50-60" versions from a home centre will put move a lot of air and save a couple of G for other expenditures over the B.A.F.
 
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PhilJohn

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I've narrowed it down to a heat pump or mini split. Would love to have some AC in the summers.

I like the mini split because its ductless and efficient, the low temp models have me interested but the drawback is I live in Central Minnesota and I just don't know if that system would keep up. I wont be out there everyday but would like to keep it at around 45 degree's, 65 degrees on most weekends.

I like the heat pump because it again offers AC, drawbacks are ductwork, maintenance. Maybe efficiency concerns and cost of running the system.

I don't like the idea of I.R because I don't want cold spots in the shop.

Ugh. I would like to make up my mind and do the research before the HVAC guy comes and tries to sell me something that benefits his pocket book but not necessarily me.
 

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I've narrowed it down to a heat pump or mini split. Would love to have some AC in the summers.

I like the mini split because its ductless and efficient, the low temp models have me interested but the drawback is I live in Central Minnesota and I just don't know if that system would keep up. I wont be out there everyday but would like to keep it at around 45 degree's, 65 degrees on most weekends.

I like the heat pump because it again offers AC, drawbacks are ductwork, maintenance. Maybe efficiency concerns and cost of running the system.

I don't like the idea of I.R because I don't want cold spots in the shop.

Ugh. I would like to make up my mind and do the research before the HVAC guy comes and tries to sell me something that benefits his pocket book but not necessarily me.
Why would you need ductwork? I have a heat pump in the curner of my shop. The only duct on it goes straight up and points it across the building. You can see it in the back left corner of this picture from when we moved in.
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I installed one of these smack in the middle of our 23 ft. x 23 ft. garage: Westinghouse Lighting 7861400 Industrial 56-Inch Three-Blade Indoor Ceiling Fan, Brushed Nickel with Brushed Nickel Steel Blades

Had to do a bit of balancing of the blades as it had what I felt to be an unacceptable amount of wobble.

It makes a tremendous difference in the effectiveness of the propane torpedo heater I use in cold weather.

It does not have reverse. It's push down only.

One of the things I like about it is the speed control is old school: Simply a multi-tapped transformer and rotary switch. No electronics or circuit-board-mounted bubble switches to fail.
 

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Rather than re-writing everything, I'll just direct you to my build thread. Lots of good info in there. My forced air hanging furnace is in the NW corner, pointing to the door on the E wall, just like my HVAC guy said to mount it.
Phil, if you're near by, you're more than welcome to come and check out my setup. I'm in Dayton.
 

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Fans in my opinion are great for making a lot of spaces comfortable. Have them in every room of my house. Not sure if I can put them in garage yet. Issues I have is losing height and more importantly for me is helicoptering. Drives me insane for some reason. With my leds I think it would happen no matter what fan I install.
This is when you get shadows from the fan with light behind it.



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My quonset type shop is 18' at the peak, and 2500 sq. feet. I put in two of those industrial fans you see in any warehouse type building. Made a big difference but, what you want to do is put it on a speed controller. You'll find a speed that pushes the heat down, without making it too drafty at the floor level.
 
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PhilJohn

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Rather than re-writing everything, I'll just direct you to my build thread. Lots of good info in there. My forced air hanging furnace is in the NW corner, pointing to the door on the E wall, just like my HVAC guy said to mount it.
Phil, if you're near by, you're more than welcome to come and check out my setup. I'm in Dayton.

Wow your shop turned out awesome.
 

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In our home office, several year ago, we ordered and installed an Emerson Electric ceiling fan I purchased from Grainger, it came with a full function remote: reverses, speed control, turns the builtin overhead light on and off.
It was more expensive than the fans sold in HD & Lowes, but IMHO well worth the money.
 

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I installed one of these smack in the middle of our 23 ft. x 23 ft. garage: Westinghouse Lighting 7861400 Industrial 56-Inch Three-Blade Indoor Ceiling Fan, Brushed Nickel with Brushed Nickel Steel Blades

Had to do a bit of balancing of the blades as it had what I felt to be an unacceptable amount of wobble.

It makes a tremendous difference in the effectiveness of the propane torpedo heater I use in cold weather.

It does not have reverse. It's push down only.

One of the things I like about it is the speed control is old school: Simply a multi-tapped transformer and rotary switch. No electronics or circuit-board-mounted bubble switches to fail.
Just installed mine this past weekend love it!
 

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you need to do a heat load and understand how heat pump work --- and don't work.

You will need some excess capacity to get your temps from 45-65 -- especially with a full shop.

Fans can be a help or not. In a cold shop and a high capacity single point heat source -- like a torpedo heater. The fan is a help .. because the heat is going straight up -- all the heat is at the ceiling. This is not the case in a maintained space or especially radiant -- here a fan will be counter productive.

Heat pumps are most effective for maintaining temps -- they are sized that way and using them oversized often throws them off in AC.

What's you electric rate
 
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PhilJohn

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Thanks for all the great feedback

Decided on 2 Wall-mounted ceiling fans in back. 80,000 LP BTU Heating Unit with wifi thermosat. Nothing too fancy but should get the job done.

I'm on vacation at the end of the month so start then. Excited.
 

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Thanks for all the great feedback

Decided on 2 Wall-mounted ceiling fans in back. 80,000 LP BTU Heating Unit with wifi thermosat. Nothing too fancy but should get the job done.

I'm on vacation at the end of the month so start then. Excited.
As you should be.

Where abouts are you? I'm in Dayton.
 

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https://trianglefans.com/ best fans made. Since 1948. They make all kinds of fans. We use one of their whole house fans. Their stuff compared to the big box store fans is like the difference between cast pot metal, and forged steel.
 
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