After having my building a little over a year now I think I’ve decided I’d like to put a ceiling in, for heating and air purposes. i see two options here, 1.) frame out the inside and build a ceiling on top of the walls. 2.) use the hanging frame type system with the compressed fiber boards, like you see in office buildings. Option 1, isn’t going to happen for several reasons. Anybody got any other ideas?
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Ceiling in “Carolina carport” type building.
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Daniel Dudley
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I'd maybe get some 2" foam and put it up under the metal framing. The foil faced stuff will also reflect heat back out
speedracerfx
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In mine, I'm going to be putting 2" foam board between the metal framing, then using corrugated PVC roof panels for the ceiling (attached directly to the metal framing). Cheap and easy.
im talking about putting a ceiling at the top of the walls. That way Im not having to heat and cool the whole area above the walls and under the roof. I guess the area that would be considered the attic In a house
speedracerfx
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As am I. My ceiling will be the bottom of the trusses, not the underside of the roof.
readhead
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I sell a version of a tube steel building and I can assure you that there was no collateral load designed into your structure. The buildings I sell have the option for additional load but generally the square tube buildings do not.
You should talk to the building company about your plans and get their opinion before you proceed.
The buildings of this type that we have finished for an owner required the ceiling to be completely self supported and not attached to the roof structure. Move forward with care.
You should talk to the building company about your plans and get their opinion before you proceed.
The buildings of this type that we have finished for an owner required the ceiling to be completely self supported and not attached to the roof structure. Move forward with care.
Zeke
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A T-bar ceiling is your best bet if the above is the case. However, even those have some weight so you might have to build in some under roof trusses to hang the wires from. The wires don't have to go straight up, you can take several of them to a central point. In fact, in CA we have to do that for horizontal stabilization. The angled wires are used as well as the vertical ones here. It depends on how much else is going into the ceiling like recessed lights and the weight of all the insulation.I sell a version of a tube steel building and I can assure you that there was no collateral load designed into your structure. The buildings I sell have the option for additional load but generally the square tube buildings do not.
You should talk to the building company about your plans and get their opinion before you proceed.
The buildings of this type that we have finished for an owner required the ceiling to be completely self supported and not attached to the roof structure. Move forward with care.
Just a T-bar ceiling by itself might fly. Do as the quote above says and contact the mf'r. BTW, I have found over the years that installation companies can do these for not much more than the material as they buy the stuff in bulk. Small a technical jobs. not so much.
Wrench97
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I have used spray foam on one about 20 years ago, it's still standing.
I was Aware that the building wasn’t meant to be load bearing, but you don’t think it will even support the type of system mentioned below your comment that hangs from wires? That’s what I had in mind. I thought surely it could handle that. It’s got to be Able to handle a snow load on the roof, would this load it a different way? Seems like it would all be the same.I sell a version of a tube steel building and I can assure you that there was no collateral load designed into your structure. The buildings I sell have the option for additional load but generally the square tube buildings do not.
You should talk to the building company about your plans and get their opinion before you proceed.
The buildings of this type that we have finished for an owner required the ceiling to be completely self supported and not attached to the roof structure. Move forward with care.
ive found that as soon as the salesman I bought from got paid, he was done. I haven’t called but the guy won’t answer emails anymore.
what is it exactly that makes this type building not able to handle a load ? Is it bcecause the tube will buckle or the bottom piece will crush? I did get 4 extra trusses and 12 gauge tube If that matters .
readhead
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Was your snow load figured as ground snow or roof live load? Makes a difference.
Collateral load is the addition dead load that the roof structure can support in addition to the roof live load. I usually add five pounds per square foot collateral load to all my buildings for reasons just like this.
Your current roof can hold itself and a certain amount of snow. If you have a large snow event you may be in trouble.
Insulation in the building makes a difference. In a heated, insulated building the snow will not melt and come off as fast. In a heated, uninsulated building the snow will melt and come off fast. There are several scenarios but you get the picture. All of these circumstances should be considered in the design of the building.
Tube steel buildings are designed to be inexpensive shelters. Nothing wrong with that. There are companies that can design a tube steel building to perform better than others but they will cost more.
As to your original question, all I can suggest is to be cautious and deliberate about what you decide to do.
Collateral load is the addition dead load that the roof structure can support in addition to the roof live load. I usually add five pounds per square foot collateral load to all my buildings for reasons just like this.
Your current roof can hold itself and a certain amount of snow. If you have a large snow event you may be in trouble.
Insulation in the building makes a difference. In a heated, insulated building the snow will not melt and come off as fast. In a heated, uninsulated building the snow will melt and come off fast. There are several scenarios but you get the picture. All of these circumstances should be considered in the design of the building.
Tube steel buildings are designed to be inexpensive shelters. Nothing wrong with that. There are companies that can design a tube steel building to perform better than others but they will cost more.
As to your original question, all I can suggest is to be cautious and deliberate about what you decide to do.