Ceiling Panels

[GAR64]

Well I still haven't started my ceiling but have been researching steel panels. Seems like the 29 gage roofing panels are about $0.80/ft2. I see they also make garage liner panels which are slightly lighter and aren't painted with the same quality but are only about 10 cents a ft2 cheaper. I am thinking that it makes sense to use the regular roofing and have found a contractor who will work reasonably. What brand panels have you guys used and have you had any particular issues? I am thinking that the lowest profile panel looks best. MS Manufacturing Pro Panel seems as good as any. I have decided this job is getting completed this Summer...finally !

 

[Joeys79]

GAR64 - Thanks for the post. I was getting ready to start one because I'm looking at doing the same exact thing. I think MS had a very symmetrical square pattern, but I don't see it on their site any more. I agree the Pro-Panel looks about the lowest profile, 5/8 at the high points. I like the idea of no spackle no paint and a clean look. It might be more $ than some other options, but in the long run I think it's worth it.

Are you doing any insulating above it? It looks like you have space above, but can't tell if it's open from the pic.

By the way - Real nice garage. Cars don't look bad either. Whats covered?

 

[galute]

You sure it's 80 cents a square foot? Should be 80 cents a running foot. Big difference.

 

[Joeys79]

GAR64 got about the same #'s I got, $2.16 - 2.81 a linear foot, and its 3 feet wide. I got the $2.16 at HD, and $2.81 at PC Lumber. GAR's # comes to $2.40 a linear foot.

 

[galute]

I wasn't thinking right when I posted that. The square foot thing threw me off. I did my ceiling last spring. I paid 1.54 a running foot for my metal. My bad. Sorry for the confusion.

 

[NUTTSGT]

If you have any skills at all, hang the metal yourself. Buy or rent a drywall lift to make it easier and have a freind/wife help. If you don't have an impact driver (not impact gun) now is the time to buy one.

Which one to buy ? For the slightly higher cost, I'd buy the one the place has in stock. If you screw a panel up cutting around something, you can easily go get another one. Besides that, the heavier panel will be slightly stronger too.

 

[kbs2244]

Has anybody tries the 2x2, drop in, panels.
You put up a grid and drop the panels into the holes.
Very common in offices and condo kitchens.
Any number of patterns.

 

[GAR64]

Thanks for the replies. The prices I was quoted were between $22 and $ a linear foot for the 3' panels. I am certainly capable of installing but if I can get a decent price, I was going to have it done. I know they can do it faster than I can and I will probably do the walls (drywall) myself. I have learned over the years that saving a few hundred bucks isn't always worth it just because you CAN do it. Believe me, I hear what you are saying... Yes, Joeys79 I am planning on insulating. I do have a room above. I am planning on a vapor barrier and then doing the insulation from above. The oic I posted is a little old...garage is now full with four cars. Yes, I should have built bigger....

 

[NUTTSGT]

Thanks for the replies. The prices I was quoted were between $22 and $ a linear foot for the 3' panels. I am certainly capable of installing but if I can get a decent price, I was going to have it done. I know they can do it faster than I can and I will probably do the walls (drywall) myself. I have learned over the years that saving a few hundred bucks isn't always worth it just because you CAN do it. Believe me, I hear what you are saying... ...

How much were you quoted for a linear foot ?

 

[Joeys79]

Yes GRA64, something got lost in your $ quote.

I was looking on the Metal Sales web site and found those other profiles I mentioned in the industrial section. However, it looks like the lightest gage is 24 and lowest profile is 3/4. Looks like the Pro-Panel may still be the best bet.

I was planning on DIY and picked up the HF drywall hoist for $167 delivered. HD wants $150 to rent for a week, and I know I'll need it for more than a week.

"I should have built bigger" - Famous last words in the land of garages...

 

[GAR64]

Sorry about my screwed up $ quote. I was quoted 2.20 - 2.50 per linear foot on a 3' wide panel, which is 73 cents (liner) to 83 cents (std roofing panel) a square foot. I think I am going with regular 29 gage roofing. I just cant see getting the interior liner which is not only more flimsy but also not painted to the same quality and saving about about a hundred bucks on my 1080 ft2 ceiling.

 

[G-ManBart]

A couple of things to consider....the extra thickness and better painting for the outdoor panels are really just to withstand weather and UV exposure. Neither should be a factor on an interior ceiling. Also, the thicker, heavier panels add more weight to your trusses which may or may not matter.

The pricing you're talking about sounds high to me. I just did the ceiling on the shop side of my barn (24x40) and it ran me $550 for the panels. I needed 26 panels that were 150" long, and they were a touch over $21 per panel.

In hindsight I would have had the panels cut to different lengths and overlapped them in the opposite direction, for a tighter fit, but it was my first attempt.....live and learn.

I used Dura-Panel from Menard's:

https://www.menards.com/main/buildi.../steel-panels/dura-panel/p-2044929-c-5717.htm

This is how I installed them (by myself, but two people would be way easier).




Finished:

 

[GAR64]

Looks nice G Man. I am going to check a few other places before ordering.

 

[stngfever]

I also used the Menards Dura Panels.

Mine are ~10' sections. 100% installed by myself via scaffolding.

Was able to hand carry a panel up a ladder and slide onto top of scaffolding, then stand underneath panel while attaching.

 

[Joeys79]

The interior liner at 24 gage is actually almost twice as thick as the 29. My thought is it's overkill and more expensive. Looks like the Menards is about 28 gage. Their opening one here near me in the fall, it might be worth waiting.

Any recommendations on cutting this stuff? I have some cutouts for electrical boxes and a closet to go around. I was also thinking that any seams could be drilled and pop riveted to pull them together. (I'm just really ****...)

Great looking ceilings guys.

 

[stngfever]

The interior liner at 24 gage is actually almost twice as thick as the 29. My thought is it's overkill and more expensive. Looks like the Menards is about 28 gage. Their opening one here near me in the fall, it might be worth waiting.

Any recommendations on cutting this stuff? I have some cutouts for electrical boxes and a closet to go around. I was also thinking that any seams could be drilled and pop riveted to pull them together. (I'm just really ****...)

Great looking ceilings guys.

Not only is it worth waiting for, also wait for an 11% rebate sale on everything!

I bought a malco turbo shear steel cutter drill attachment that works GREAT for cutting steel. Cuts through these panels like butter.

Menards will cut these panels within 1" dimensions. Since mine is 40' wide (outside dimensions), I chose to work with ~10' panels. The outer ones we're a bit shorter, and inner ones a bit longer (~2" of overlap).

Since the trusses have some drift (particularly in center of 32' span), I found it best to measure the trusses at each point for a panel and mark each screw location as I installed a panel.

 

[G-ManBart]

The interior liner at 24 gage is actually almost twice as thick as the 29. My thought is it's overkill and more expensive. Looks like the Menards is about 28 gage. Their opening one here near me in the fall, it might be worth waiting.

Any recommendations on cutting this stuff? I have some cutouts for electrical boxes and a closet to go around. I was also thinking that any seams could be drilled and pop riveted to pull them together. (I'm just really ****...)

Great looking ceilings guys.

I also bought a Malco Turbo Shear, and it works really well. I will say that for some situations an angle grinder with a cutoff wheel also works extremely well. It's surprising, but if you chalk line a cut, you can follow it with the grinder a lot better than you'd expect, and it's fast.

The 11% back from Menard's is also pretty nice. I bought all the steel for my ceilings and walls from them, plus the fasteners and the rebate was almost $150.

 

[outsider347]

GAR 64
where are you located in ny

Ed
from Orchard Park NY

 

[GAR64]

Located near Albany NY

 

[outsider347]

I will be purchasing my white interior (walls & ceiling ) panels at Lake Shore Steel in Medina NY for 1.90 / linear foot.
They will cut to any length that you need, & pro rate the price to the inch....."hang & bang" for easy install

Might be worth the drive for you

ed