Ceiling white metal

[Hurricanoday]

Is this the stuff everyone is using for the ceiling in their pole buildings and blowing in insulation on top of it? I have a 40x60

Is there another type of panel I should be looking at, is this the "budget" celing


http://www.homedepot.com/b/Building...nels-Metal-Roofing/White/N-5yc1vZapwhZ1z0vm5f

 

[Bert_]

Thats the stuff. Lightweight, easy/fast to install, no painting/ect. and it very reflective which helps with lighting.

You should be able to find it a little cheaper than that link though. Usually there is a couple grades also, heavier panels with better paint for exterior and lighter gauge stuff for interior lining.

 

[Hurricanoday]

Thats the stuff. Lightweight, easy/fast to install, no painting/ect. and it very reflective which helps with lighting.

You should be able to find it a little cheaper than that link though. Usually there is a couple grades also, heavier panels with better paint for exterior and lighter gauge stuff for interior lining.

anyone have any good recommendations on where I can find it? I'm in Washington, have been searching around and haven't been able to find much

 

[Hurricanoday]

Why would anyone buy and use the metal for 20-30$ when drywall is like around 10-12$??

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Sheetroc...PIPHorizontal1_rr-_-203768542-_-100321591-_-N

 

[The Cobbler]

drywall is heavier, needs to be taped, primed & painted. needs vapour barrier
metal is lighter, once installed it's finished. no taping, painting.

 

[G-ManBart]

Why would anyone buy and use the metal for 20-30$ when drywall is like around 10-12$??

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Sheetroc...PIPHorizontal1_rr-_-203768542-_-100321591-_-N

When I did the math for my shop ceiling (24x40) it was $600 worth of white liner panel, and $400 for drywall after adding in tape, mud etc. The extra $200 was well spent in that it went up quicker, with no mess, and I could do it easily without any help.

 

[Hurricanoday]

I'm still trying to find a good place to pick it up and at what a good price is?

 

[ctgoodman]

When I did the math for my shop ceiling (24x40) it was $600 worth of white liner panel, and $400 for drywall after adding in tape, mud etc. The extra $200 was well spent in that it went up quicker, with no mess, and I could do it easily without any help.

Metal for me too when I do mine. No taping, no mudding, no sanding, no painting, no mess, no additional time spend once it's up on the ceiling. It's all wins for metal in my book.

 

[chaosracing]

Metal for ceiling all the way. When I build my garage, I am putting metal on. What little you save on drywall, will be spent on time and mess. Once the metal is up (lighter than drywall) its finished. No taping, no mudding, no sanding, no painting.

Plus if you have trusses spaced at 4', you need to add strapping so the drywall has structure every 2' at least.

 

[alwaysFlOoReD]

Any true lumberyard should be able to get it for you. They will have samples and pricing and someone should be able to help you decide what's best for your application. Several years ago I was paying ~C$0.67/lineal foot, so about C$0.22/ft^2 for colored 3" wide sheets. Screws were about $0.10 each at the lumberyard but you can source them cheaper [$0.05] at a bolt supply place.

 

[MushCreek]

There are a number of places around here that manufacture the stuff, and you can get it for less than $.50 a square foot. That's for heavier, exterior grade material. Metal roofs are very common in our area, though.

 

[jackson1701]

The supplier near me (AB Martin) sells number 2 or seconds white panels to use for the ceiling. It may have a small blemish but you most likely will never see it. I would google for a pole building supply house in your area to see if they sell the panels you are looking for. Most suppliers do and they may even run it at any length you need.

 

[Hurricanoday]

Thanks for the great info guys. I found a place called champion metal and will call them on monday to see what they offer.

I'm just researching insulating my building and a ceiling might not be possible because my trusses are 12ft and are not rated for the load of the ceiling.

Still have tons of more research to do on just adding insulation for the roof with no ceiling vs the cost of trying to figure out how to put a ceiling with the truss situation.

 

[capt2130]

Metal is what I would recommend. I have in all of my garages. So much easier and clean. You`ll just may need to plan more to make sure anything mounted on ceiling doesn't fall onto a rib.

Here are some pics of the one I`m working on now.

 

[IdahoFan]

How well would this work for a well insulated ceiling in cold country? I was planning on drywall, 2 inches of spray foam on top then covered with a blown-in material. Has anyone installed the metal, then foamed it and added blown-in material?

 

[Radix2]

Do you have any Amish in the area? They often have the plant to roll the steel and crews to install.

I have spray foam and wet cellulose in the walls and 16" of cellulose blown in on top of the metal. Don't see the need to spray on top.

 

[glider]

I used 1" Tuff R insulation. Put the metal over that and called it good.

 

[DougWil]

Why would anyone buy and use the metal for 20-30$ when drywall is like around 10-12$??

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Sheetroc...PIPHorizontal1_rr-_-203768542-_-100321591-_-N

Along with all the other reasons, turn off the power and hose it off every couple of years and it looks brand new.
Plus easy to remove a panel for replacement or running additional electrical.

 

[DCarr2]

Why would anyone buy and use the metal for 20-30$ when drywall is like around 10-12$??

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Sheetroc...PIPHorizontal1_rr-_-203768542-_-100321591-_-N

Im going go out on a limb and say either your a professional drywall hanger, OR havent much experience with drywall.

If your a pro hanger/finiser,

for the rest of America, lol metal is so much easier... aside from the hanging which is back breaking work, and you NEED atleast 2 people, one to hold it, one to drive the screws... then you SHOULD finish it so it looks decent... and finishing drywall isnt exactly a DIY thing with out an extreme amount of sanding afterwards and then it still doesnt look right... lol then you need to prime it with a latex paint, and 2 coats of whatever...

with metal, once its up its done.

the other nice thing with metal is if you get a leak, you typically dont have to replace anything, just fix the leak and air it out. with drywall it must (should) be replaced as drywall has very little strength once it gets wet.....

drywall also wont work in many applications, like mine where my rafters are 4' apart.

 

[slip knot]

some excellent reasons here. I'll add no tape to fall off after several years of humidity loosens the mud. and if you need access to the area,pull a few screws and the panel is out. easy, zip those screws back in and your ceilings back. no repairs needed.

 

[Dick in Wisconsin]

I used Menards Dura-Panel and am VERY happy with it (with an emphasis on VERY). Menards has three grades/thicknesses: Dura-Panel, Pro-Rib, and Premium Pro-Rib. The Dura-Panel is 0.0128" thick. The Pro-Rib is 0.0142" thick and the website says that's 29 gauge. Measurements are before painting.

I went with the thinner stuff ... less expensive, lighter.

My trusses are 24" on center, the carpenters that installed it used screws every 48", we blew lots of insulation on top of it, and it doesn't/hasn't bowed.

Where to find it in the state of Washington? I would expect that any lumberyard, Home Depot, Lowes, etc. can get it. Menards cuts to size (on even 1"). Again I would highly recommend the thin stuff. I used it without any trouble whatsoever. For a roof or external siding, then I would go with the thick stuff. I put the middle grade (Pro-Rib) on the ceiling of the attached garage and that was heavy and it was overkill.

 

[TLR15]

I'm sold on the metal for the ceiling.
What do you think, install walls (drywall) first or the ceiling (steel) first?
I was thinking that the drywall walls should be installed first and the ceiling but to that so the ribbed profile is covered.

 

[chaosracing]

Put up wall board first, then buy metal J trim to cover the edges of the metal ceiling. Then install the metal ceiling.

 

[SGMdmax]

I'm really liking the idea of steel for my next shop after using drywall to finish a 3 car garage.
When using steel for ceiling and walls; should the electrical be run behind it like drywall or hang all the steel and use conduit to run electric? I'm guessing that behind the steel would be cheaper but more time consuming when hanging the steel.

 

[chaosracing]

If it was my shop, I would lay out all the electric first. Put blocking where needed, but wait to install boxes. That way you can install the box in the low area of the panel and not on a rib. It makes it easy to adjust as necessary for ease of installation. Provides a nice clean look to it as well.

 

[davejo]

If there is living space above, the metal panels do or do not provide fire protection?

 

[chaosracing]

You might have to check with local codes, but I would say it is fire rated. You might have to better seal the ends along the wall.

 

[uscarry45]

highly recommend the metal ceiling but if you want to save a buck they make roll insulation with a shiny white side to it - it is commonly used in industrial buildings