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Echo with Trufuel or similar is a winner for me. If you buy it at HD, get email receipt too for warranty if ever needed.

Beware buying at HD. If there's a problem during the warranty period they'll send you to the Echo warranty center which is likely a local Echo dealer.

Your chainsaw will be last in line for repair since they give top priority to their own customers. During high season, your wait for repair could be many months.

Unless there's a significant price difference, always buy from same dealer that provides service.
 
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I've had an Echo CD-310 for about 8 years and it has been great. I cut oak, walnut, hedge and several other hardwoods.

Learn how to sharpen chains and mix gas. If you use your saw at all you should be doing both.


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When you say a bunch are we talking about 5-10 or are we talking 40-50? What size trees and what type are they. I personally have both a stihl ms260 and a stihl cordless. Depending on the situation you would get two different recommendations. May I put my $.02 out there. If you are planning doing most of the cutting on a weekend or a couple weekends you may want to just see if you can borrow someone’s gas saw or rent one for your heavy work. Then buy a saw that fits your needs for your yearly firewood cutting (electric or cordless probably).

Sorry for the late reply, I was out camping for the weekend.

I'm talking about 5-10, but these are big trees.The smallest is 12" or more, the largest is 24" or so. But, once the lot is cleared, the saw will get little use.


Summing up what I've gleemed out of these 3 pages so far,
Echo, Huskavarna and Stihl are all at the top of the list for a homeowner.

I'd like to get this chainsaw for $300 or less but I'll spend more if it is worth it, but $600 professional saws are not something I am interested in.
 

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Ok. So the largest tree is 24". You could get away with a 14" saw. 14" x 2 = 28" . If it was me I think the Echo CS-310 would be perfect for you. You could put a 16" bar on it. I think more balls than bar is a better way to go. The come with a 14" bar. Buy an extra chain with the correct file to sharpen it. Your good to go.
 

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I took out my Stihl out to see what model it was, a 251. That was the model recommended to me for your use. One step up from the base. The base model competes with the Poulans. Here in BC, we still log. On the local hunting forum, if you ask your question, within the day, we have more responses than here. You get a hot Husqavarna Stihl debate. The Stihl side comes out with more numbers. While I've seen the odd Shindawa/Echo and Makita, neither got any votes.
 

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Summing up what I've gleemed out of these 3 pages so far,
Echo, Huskavarna and Stihl are all at the top of the list for a homeowner.

I'd like to get this chainsaw for $300 or less but I'll spend more if it is worth it, but $600 professional saws are not something I am interested in.

Three hundred will get you a lot of saw, especially if you buy used, which I would consider. When you get close to deciding on a model, read the experiences of it on arboristsite or forestryforum.

Throwing in my own two cents, I have an echo cs370 (current equivalent is the cs400) which in occasional homeowner use has been great for the ten years I've had it, as long as I use non-ethanol gas.
 

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Sorry for the late reply, I was out camping for the weekend.

I'm talking about 5-10, but these are big trees.The smallest is 12" or more, the largest is 24" or so. But, once the lot is cleared, the saw will get little use.


Summing up what I've gleemed out of these 3 pages so far,
Echo, Huskavarna and Stihl are all at the top of the list for a homeowner.

I'd like to get this chainsaw for $300 or less but I'll spend more if it is worth it, but $600 professional saws are not something I am interested in.

Like I said earlier, rent a 60cc class saw for the one time felling/bucking.

For ongoing infrequent homeowner use, get a smaller gas saw in the 40-50cc range or consider Li Ion. (Gas chainsaws can be a PIA for infrequent use.)

You should not exceed you budget with this approach.

I would not want to fell 24" trees with a small saw nor would I want to use a large saw for infrequent homeowner tasks.
 

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Homelite Ranger has been the best smaller saw for me. Forgot I had it and sat with gas in it for over a year and started on the second pull.
 

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Sorry for the late reply, I was out camping for the weekend.

I'm talking about 5-10, but these are big trees.The smallest is 12" or more, the largest is 24" or so. But, once the lot is cleared, the saw will get little use.


Summing up what I've gleemed out of these 3 pages so far,
Echo, Huskavarna and Stihl are all at the top of the list for a homeowner.

I'd like to get this chainsaw for $300 or less but I'll spend more if it is worth it, but $600 professional saws are not something I am interested in.

Yeah if you're dead set on not going above $300-$350 I would look for used saws.

A Stihl 260 for example is the previous generation of the 261...they can be had used in that price range.

Personally I'd prefer a used pro-series saw than a new box store homeowner model.

A 260 (heck even an 026) with an 18" bar would be perfect.

I have zero experience with Echo though, a lot of guys seem to be happy with them for the use you're describing, so that might be a better option for you. :confused:
 

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That many trees would not take a pro logger an hour to fell. Large trees are dangerous and there is more to felling them than just cutting them, off be careful.
 

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I wouldn't be afraid to buy a used saw. There's decent saws out there that can be found on CL or see what the dealers have for sale used/trade ins.

An older MS290 Farm Boss would make you a nice saw.



Edit: putting a location in your profile would also help your fellow members recommend a place to buy or may know of any deals coming up.
 
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Sorry for the late reply, I was out camping for the weekend.

I'm talking about 5-10, but these are big trees.The smallest is 12" or more, the largest is 24" or so. But, once the lot is cleared, the saw will get little use.


Summing up what I've gleemed out of these 3 pages so far,
Echo, Huskavarna and Stihl are all at the top of the list for a homeowner.

I'd like to get this chainsaw for $300 or less but I'll spend more if it is worth it, but $600 professional saws are not something I am interested in.


I totally understand the negative of going with a battery, but batteries of late store much better than older ones. Obviously you read all the comments, so hopefully if you do go with gas you will properly take care of it for long term storage. That said, I'd would still lean towards battery. Ego brand if you aren't into a power tool brand, and Milwaukee if you are going to start getting tools.

We have 60 acres, and plenty of trees. Whether falling on their own, or decided by me, there is a lot more to take care than I realized. My brother was always the one need to get his fix on a gas motor, and I never really touched the chainsaw. Then after that motor got fubared (around the time ethanol took over our engines ironically), I would use a Milwaukee sawzall with pruning blade, and worked for quite a bit more than you would expect. Then I got the Milwaukee 18v 16" and has performed excellent. Granted, I wouldn't pay the $450 it retails for (I do live in Amish country). I got mine with battery for ~$240 (holiday promo & was display), but I would have paid closer to $380 after using it.

The Ego is a 16" brushless, but has a non-traditional tightening mechanism that seems to be less favored in general, but still 1,200 people giving it almost 5 stars, and costs $300 for 5ah, with a 5 year warranty. If you get the 2-year extended warranty from HD, that will cover everything from years 6 & 7 for $45. So for $345 you get 7 year guarantee, that ain't too bad. Plus they usually don't fix it, just send you a gift card for the purchase amount. It's also easy to chat online and get another 10% taken off just about anything, they are usually really friendly. Say it isn't in stock locally, and wonder if you save a little for the wait to get.

I have not used the Ego, but I did see the breakdown video of the Dewalt 60v & Milwaukee M18, and the Milwaukee is by far the better saw. The motor is like twice as large, and has the traditional two nut tensioning system.
 

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Makita has a deal going where you get 2 extra free batteries with an outdoor power tool purchase. About $375 for the 14" with 4 batteries and the dual charger.
 

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I watched my neighbor cut up a 2 foot diameter tree with a battery powered saw. Pretty impressive how long it ran and how fast it ran!
My wife has an electric one that the chain runs slow on but it will not stop running!
I have trimmed some pretty big limbs with it!
I cut firewood a Stihl 290 and either an 18 inch or a 24 inch bar depending on how far I want to bend over! I cut 12 to 14 cord a year!
 

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I’m a gas person myself as far as power equipment.

Maintenance and setup are key to chainsaws. That’s it. I’ve got like 8 gas ones. A tad of marvel mystery oil in the gas even the massive 25 year old craftsman starts right up. I basically have an assortment of bar length and power.

I ditch those anti kickback chains so they cut faster (I’d only recommend it if you’re experienced).

I do have a soft spot for my old Pro MAC 440VC
 

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I’ve got a 20yo Sthil 170 that can tackle anything. I use it to cut trees I shouldn’t, sometimes having to make two side cuts to make it through... the saw doesn’t care.

I would suggest investing in a good file to sharpen your chain, and do that often. I usually sharpen every 3rd gas/chain oil refill, I feel it really reduces the stress on the saw.

I use 92 oct 10% ethanol gas mixed with Torco Accelerator - because racecar.

All that said... I would consider a new age battery saw heavily. The torque and simplicity of them are big draws to me, however, I don’t see my Sthil decomposing anytime soon and I can’t manage to break it..


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The key is to have a sharp chain. You'll be cursing any saw if you don't realize the chain is dull... or it's on backwards like we did when we were young and inebriated.
 

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I had a ton of tree work to do at my house. My buddy said he’d climb and direct a crew if I bought a new saw for him to use (he’d been out of the game for a bit). So I bought a Stihl 150 tce. I’ve used it for just about everything and it’s been stellar.
 

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Ok. So the largest tree is 24". You could get away with a 14" saw. 14" x 2 = 28" . If it was me I think the Echo CS-310 would be perfect for you. You could put a 16" bar on it. I think more balls than bar is a better way to go. The come with a 14" bar. Buy an extra chain with the correct file to sharpen it. Your good to go.

With the OP having to fell and buck a fair number of trees ranging from 12"-24" your recommending a 30cc saw with a 14 or 16" b/c. Have you ever fell and bucked up a 24" tree with such equipments? You may be OK doing it once if you have all weekend to do it but its totally unsuitable sized saw for the task. I use a 90cc saw to cut 24" hardwood & even that can be a chore. The best 'bang for your buck' saw off the shelf new in the USA is the Echo 590 timber wolf. Its a Pro built vertically split mag case 60cc class saw that retails at $399! When on sale or with discounts it can be bought for as little as $300! There is NO brand that offers a saw of such quality/displacement for anywhere near that price. With a 20" B&C the OP could get a lot of work done in a timely fashion without wearing himself out and his saw. There are many saws suitable for the OP's requirements but as he is budget conscious, nothing will touch the 590 Echo for value/performance. That saw where I come from retails over $1k!. Another option is to get a 65cc pro Dolmar DCS6401 from home depo's ex renters if he's lucky to snag one, but while they are great saws who knows what sort of life they have had being rented out.
 

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Interesting thread as I have an 18" Poulan Pro and I hate it! It was cheap but always hard starting and cutting has been marginal. Yes i do use can fuel. Looking at replacing it with either a Husky or Stihl at some point.

I have an electric Makita someone gave me, i had to fix it but it is fine for limbing .
 
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Another option is to get a 65cc pro Dolmar DCS6401 from home depo's ex renters if he's lucky to snag one, but while they are great saws who knows what sort of life they have had being rented out.

They spend most of the time sitting on the shelf and HD maintains them pretty well.

However what you do is swap the top end with a Dolmar 7900 piston/cylinder or a "big block" kit from Baileys, then add a second muffler exhaust port and now you have a saw that will compete with a Stihl MS660 at << half the cost and much lower weight.
 

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This thread has had me fixated on chainsaws this week, lol. I’ve been curious about the cutting performance of the Stihl chains without the anti kickback design.

Swapping from a 20 inch bar with the green chain to a 16 inch bar and full chisel or yellow chain on my MS311.

I’ve heard mixed reviews from “big improvement” to “barely noticeable”. We’ll see.....
 

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They spend most of the time sitting on the shelf and HD maintains them pretty well.

However what you do is swap the top end with a Dolmar 7900 piston/cylinder or a "big block" kit from Baileys, then add a second muffler exhaust port and now you have a saw that will compete with a Stihl MS660 at << half the cost and much lower weight.

Ya I've got a pre EPA DCS6400 (orange saw with unlimited coil) and a NIB 7900 stashed away. They run good, I have a ported 660 too but I really like my 5cube 681 Solo...it eats wood in a rapid fashion. I probably have too many saws really, some for work some for play some old collectors and some just because. I have a problem with bars & chain too. And grinders...and files...and a few too many axes too. No log splitters though, yet.
 
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Okay, I have it narrowed down to two saws.

The Echo CS400 and the Stihl 251. The Echo is a little cheaper but the Stihl has a little larger engine. Thoughts on these two?

https://www.homedepot.com/p/ECHO-18-in-40-2-cc-Gas-2-Stroke-Cycle-Chainsaw-CS-400-18/100675470

https://www.stihlusa.com/products/chain-saws/homeowner-saws/ms251/

Only $30 difference between the two.

The Stihl dealer sells non ethanol gas and is close to me so regardless of which saw I use, it will get a steady diet of non ethanol gas.
 

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Okay, I have it narrowed down to two saws.

The Echo CS400 and the Stihl 251. The Echo is a little cheaper but the Stihl has a little larger engine. Thoughts on these two?

https://www.homedepot.com/p/ECHO-18-in-40-2-cc-Gas-2-Stroke-Cycle-Chainsaw-CS-400-18/100675470

https://www.stihlusa.com/products/chain-saws/homeowner-saws/ms251/

Only $30 difference between the two.

The Stihl dealer sells non ethanol gas and is close to me so regardless of which saw I use, it will get a steady diet of non ethanol gas.

I would get the Stihl assuming you have a good local dealer. That way you'll have support if you need it.

Echo makes good equipment but you'll get zero support from Home Crapo. They'll tell you to take or ship the saw to an Echo warranty center. You might wait a long time for support if the warranty center is a local dealer. (Home Center buyers go to the bottom of the work order list.)

P.S. I'd still be concerned about felling 24" trees with only a 45cc saw.
 
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I own the 251, with the 40cm bar on it.
Use it for firewood mostly and sometimes felling. Only had one time it wouldn't run, this was because of a dirty carb. Took it to a dealer and was fixed easily.
 

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Okay, I have it narrowed down to two saws.

The Echo CS400 and the Stihl 251. The Echo is a little cheaper but the Stihl has a little larger engine. Thoughts on these two?

https://www.homedepot.com/p/ECHO-18-in-40-2-cc-Gas-2-Stroke-Cycle-Chainsaw-CS-400-18/100675470

https://www.stihlusa.com/products/chain-saws/homeowner-saws/ms251/

Only $30 difference between the two.

The Stihl dealer sells non ethanol gas and is close to me so regardless of which saw I use, it will get a steady diet of non ethanol gas.

I have owned a CS-400 for tenish years now, and it has never let me down. I've used drop easily a hundred trees over that time anywhere from 6" to 24" in diameter. If it got hit by a meteor, I'd go out and buy another one without a second thought.

My father has a ~20 year old Stihl MS-271 (I'm pretty sure that's the right number) and I admit that it does cut a little better than my CS-400, but has always been more of a picky machine and a little cold blooded.

Both saws have only seen ethanol free fuel.
 
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P.S. I'd still be concerned about felling 24" trees with only a 45cc saw.

HA! It is a good thing there is only one on the lot that big. The rest are in the 12-16" range.



Thanks for everyone's replies and by all means, keep them coming. Who ever thought it would be this difficult to pick a chainsaw. :lol_hitti
 

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Okay, I have it narrowed down to two saws.

The Echo CS400 and the Stihl 251. The Echo is a little cheaper but the Stihl has a little larger engine. Thoughts on these two?

https://www.homedepot.com/p/ECHO-18-in-40-2-cc-Gas-2-Stroke-Cycle-Chainsaw-CS-400-18/100675470

https://www.stihlusa.com/products/chain-saws/homeowner-saws/ms251/

Only $30 difference between the two.

The Stihl dealer sells non ethanol gas and is close to me so regardless of which saw I use, it will get a steady diet of non ethanol gas.

I'd buy the Stihl, good dealer support is easily worth that $30 over the next 10-15 years.
 

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Okay, I have it narrowed down to two saws.

The Echo CS400 and the Stihl 251. The Echo is a little cheaper but the Stihl has a little larger engine. Thoughts on these two?

https://www.homedepot.com/p/ECHO-18-in-40-2-cc-Gas-2-Stroke-Cycle-Chainsaw-CS-400-18/100675470

https://www.stihlusa.com/products/chain-saws/homeowner-saws/ms251/

Only $30 difference between the two.

The Stihl dealer sells non ethanol gas and is close to me so regardless of which saw I use, it will get a steady diet of non ethanol gas.

I would go with the Echo, but get a 14" bar. If you buy it at a dealer, they will swap it out for free. The powerheads on the saws you list are too small for the bars they are supplied with. A 16" bar is good on the 52-60cc size powerhead.....not a 40-45cc engine.
 

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Not sure how anyone can offer advice without knowing how big the firewood trees are. I use a MS 660 for most firewood. Not the right saw for big (>36”) trees but works well for most of what I cut, which averages 24”.

If you have really small trees or pruning work to do look into an electric. I use the Milwaukee m18 for pruning and Xmas tree cutting. Way more convenient than gas.


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This thread has had me fixated on chainsaws this week, lol. I’ve been curious about the cutting performance of the Stihl chains without the anti kickback design.

Swapping from a 20 inch bar with the green chain to a 16 inch bar and full chisel or yellow chain on my MS311.

I’ve heard mixed reviews from “big improvement” to “barely noticeable”. We’ll see.....

I recently bought a chain with the more aggressive yellow chain and the difference was very noticeable, even my dad who was helping me out commented on how much faster and seemingly better the new chain cut through the wood. I would take no time at all to slice right through a 30" log (I have a 20" bar so had to cut each one twice hence the purchase of the more aggressive chain)

You do have to pay closer attention for kickback as I had the saw kick back on me a few times when I almost never have kickback with the green chain.
 

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One word STIHL


Lead, Follow, or get out of the Way!

I've had many people question why I spent "so much" money and bought a Stihl, my dad purchased one when i was 30 years ago and has never had any issues with it other than standard maintenance.

Currently on year 9 with my MS291 20" bar and as far as cutting goes its the best decision I've made. Still starts on pull 1-3 and shows no signs of letting up power. :beer:
 

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Im a huge fan of the small-lite weight echo chain saws......awesome small saw for smallish trees....stihl hands down fir everything else
 

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Okay, I have it narrowed down to two saws.

The Echo CS400 and the Stihl 251. The Echo is a little cheaper but the Stihl has a little larger engine. Thoughts on these two?

https://www.homedepot.com/p/ECHO-18-in-40-2-cc-Gas-2-Stroke-Cycle-Chainsaw-CS-400-18/100675470

https://www.stihlusa.com/products/chain-saws/homeowner-saws/ms251/

Only $30 difference between the two.

The Stihl dealer sells non ethanol gas and is close to me so regardless of which saw I use, it will get a steady diet of non ethanol gas.
Mmmm, the problem with threads like this where many advise the use of 40/45cc saws too tackle 24" trees is that it kinda makes it seem normal to use a 40cc saw (some have even suggested 30cc) to your required work. When there is more bad advice than good, to the unadvised eye the poor advice seems normal & reputable. Those who have pointed out this displacement saw is not what you NEED are few & far between. I bet you'll go out and buy a homeowner ms251 or the underpowered echo & will be none the wiser until your staring down a 24" tree that you need to buck up into manageable sizes cut after cut with a saw with small chain, small clutch, AV that will hate the thought of doing such work and an oiler unable to keep up. Go buy the Echo 590 TW @$399. Its twice the saw of those you've chosen.
 

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Who in there right mind would use a 12inch bar on a 24inch diameter tree???...well ok i have seen stranger things....80clam snappy ratchet used as a hammer so i get your point...the lite weight echo works dam nice for its intended purpose and it does not beat you to death....its a good choice for a homeowner who does not need a farm saw...
 

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A Stihl 362 or a 60cc chainsaw with a 16" or 18" bar would be about right size saw for the work mentioned in this thread. Beavers take down 20" to 24" trees quite often up here. When that tree is lying on the ground and you have to cut it into manageable pieces it makes even a 60cc saw work

I find there is no medium, either you need a small saw for trimming 30cc gas, or Makita, Stihl cordless or you need a larger saw. In other areas a Milwaukee M18 or a 40cc gas saw might work okay
 
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