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Challenger/Fleet 1260 ratchet

mmotodad

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Can anyone tell me how the spring or springs are oriented inside a Proto Challenger/Fleet single pawl round head ratchet? I finally found a decent one with the selector that is the full width of the head on the ratchet and it came to me in non working condition. When I opened it up it was dry and there was a single spring loose inside. I have rebuilt many of my Snap On ratchets but for the life of me I cannot figure this one out. A picture or a link to one would be greatly appreciated. This one is in good condition with little internal wear but doesnt work without any force to hold the pawl in place. Seems rebuild kits for these are non-existent at this point.
 
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Put up a pic of the ratchet and the internals. From there I can see what pics I have of that style.
 
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Just saw something like that recently.
There's supposed to be a tiny roll pin installed in that secondary hole in the pawl. Then the fork on the back of the selector knobs interfaces with that, and moves it to switch directions, but holds it in relative position so the pawl can rock back and forth as it ratchets. And the tiny spring goes in the hole at the bottom of the selector knob (right by the fork), rubbing against the roll pin.
I'll try and find the ratchet I have that's like that and post pics if I can find it.

P.S. Found it! A 1/4" drive TruTest. Hope the pics help!
 

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Bonneyman, thank you thank you. Your description of how the spring interfaced with the fork of the selector knob is what it took for the light bulb in my head to illuminate. As I fit the spring into it I actually felt rather dumb. Its all back together lubed up and working well. Not my favorite ratchet in the toolbox now that its back together. Certainly not as good as I remember the one my grandpa had. Myself, my brother and my grandpa rebuilt a Ford Y Block in the summer of 1984. His collection of tools was vast compared to my other grandpa but very eclectic, years of sourcing different tools from different places where as my other grandpa had the typical grey and red Craftsman top and bottom setup that probably included the tools all as one package deal. My brother and I would fight over the one Snap On 9/16 wrench that was mixed in mostly with Williams Superwrenches and the occasional odd Bonney or Vlchek. Most of the ratchets were the Craftsman with the V selector but he had the one roundhead Challenger 3/8. In about 1987 he got a set of JC Penney chrome wrenches as a christmas gift from my aunt. I knew I had to have me a set of those someday. Back then it was said that they were made by Snap On, even the sales person at JC Penney backed that up. After I was grown and turning a wrench for a living I came to find out that they were more likely made by SK. I didn't have the heart to tell him. I have searched JC Penney wrenches out on Ebay from time to time but they go for more money that I am willing to spend knowing they are SK sourced. I did end up with that lone 9/16 combo wrench and cherish it. It sits beside the Snap On wrenches that I purchased from Snappy (as my wife called the man who took much of my early paychecks).
 

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Glad I could help.

And don't feel dumb. We all need to learn - that's one of the reasons I'm here! :)
 
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