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l_bilyk

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If you buy any channellock pliers, on the back of the packaging is a disclaimer that says this product contains a chemical known to cause cancer in CA.

Does anyone know what this is all about? Is it the rubber grips that contain some carcinogenic compund?
 
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l_bilyk said:
If you buy any channellock pliers, on the back of the packaging is a disclaimer that says this product contains a chemical known to cause cancer in CA.

Does anyone know what this is all about? Is it the rubber grips that contain some carcinogenic compund?


Most likely the handle....there couldnt be something in the steel...same overal style as any other plier.....I know they use an extra cushiony material on there handles....that is one reason why alot of people like there products is because of the handle
 

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ranger_dood said:
Everything is known to cause cancer in California. Just don't eat your pliers and you'll be fine.


True that is why I live in Texas so here I know EVERYTHING doesnt cause me cancer like it does in California
 

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If you hold fifteen hundred pairs of Channellock pliers in each hand for 47,000 years you have a one in 150,000,000,000 chance of contracting cancer of the right index finger....geez...I've got more things to worry about...what a stupid thing to put on a pkg.
 

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krooser said:
If you hold fifteen hundred pairs of Channellock pliers in each hand for 47,000 years you have a one in 150,000,000,000 chance of contracting cancer of the right index finger....geez...I've got more things to worry about...what a stupid thing to put on a pkg.


Well alot of people freak out over **** like that.....We have to be all pollitically correct
 

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You should be fine as long as you don't pull the grips off and smoke them or grind them up and snort it.
 

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Proposition 65, as an ammendment to the Safe Water Act of California which has gone horribly awry!!! California certainly is a 'different' place!
The Safe Drinking Water and Toxic Enforcement Act of 1986 (Proposition 65) is a California law that affects manufacturers and businesses across the United States. Any manufacturer, packager, or producer with 10 or more employees that operates or sells products in California is subject to Proposition 65. Businesses are prohibited from knowingly discharging listed chemicals into drinking water sources and required to provide a "clear and reasonable" warning before exposing anyone to a listed chemical.
 

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Luckydevil said:
You should be fine as long as you don't pull the grips off and smoke them or grind them up and snort it.



Now you tell me?? ****...I had like a huge one rolled up
 

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Thats all BS ive got 1$ that says its what they use to coat the metal for shipping. Like cosmoline or whatever they use.


Jim
 

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Along these same lines, the Californians are also trying to get a warning put on french fries and potato chip packages because they have linked chemicals in them to causing cancer. Its getting to be a big joke... nobody is gunna take them seriously.

Jim
 

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Has anybody else noticed that people who claim to be politically correct are usually neither? P.S. my bumper sticker say's ""political correctness offends me" RED.
 

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red caddy said:
Has anybody else noticed that people who claim to be politically correct are usually neither? P.S. my bumper sticker say's ""political correctness offends me" RED.



That or they love to hug trees or live in them
 

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kartracer55 said:
Thats all BS ive got 1$ that says its what they use to coat the metal for shipping. Like cosmoline or whatever they use.


Jim

I would have to agree here. It's the chemical(s) in the "oil".
 

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How the hell am I gonna get my iron if I don't eat my tools???

What's next, no plastic bags over my head????


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regarding Channellock tools and cancer

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djjack said:
I’m not sure about the Channellock substance that the warning was issued for but you would probably be safe just to clean off the tool and re-oil them. However, there is another substance that we should be aware of and it is the dirty little secret of the tool industry. I don’t know the chemical or trade name but the generic name is SMO. I have inside knowledge that most tool companies use at least some amount of the SMO substance. I believe Snap On uses a highly concentrated version of SMO. Unlike rust inhibitors the SMO molecule forms a very strong bond to the nickel atom in the tool. Simply cleaning off the tool won’t remove the SMO. You would need to grind off the nickel to remove most it. The SMO additive is absorbed through the skin and can be inhaled if large quantities are present. It does not cause cancer but does cause a form of brain damage. Also, once exposed, your body will absorb SMO easier in the future due to a decreased tolerance. Like lead or mercury, SMO accumulates in the brain and over time can cause enough damage to produce chronic behavioral deficits. An unpublished study showed that SMO poisoning occurs at least 50 times more often in men than women. Similarly women are a far more sensitive to a SGO. There is no treatment for SMO related exposure and experiments with detoxification have resulted in depression and irritability. If you are unsure if you have been exposed to SMO take this test. 1) Assume you receive a ******* magazine and a tool catalog in the mail. Do you hesitate for even a second on which one to open first? 2) Does purchasing a $75 tool to perform a $50 repair seem reasonable? 3) Do you think about your tool collection? 4) Does stepping into a tool truck make you feel happy? 5) Finally, open your sock drawer, now open your favorite tool drawer. Do you feel differently? If you answered yes to any of these questions, or if you took time to read this crazy post you’re poisoned with the SMO (shinny metal object) additive. Don’t feel too bad, you have a lot of good company since SMO is also found in guns, cars, motorcycles, and a remote control anything. I have some SMO exposure but I have not suffered brain damage. I could quit collecting tools if I wanted. I think I hear the tool truck… I gotta go.

OMG, that was good! You really had me for a minute! :eyecrazy: :lol:
 

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ranger_dood said:
Everything is known to cause cancer in California. Just don't eat your pliers and you'll be fine.

:rocker: No that is not true. Cancer will only occur when you hold the channel locks when hugging a tree. Unfortunately I live in Cali and have to listen to all of the bull**** rules. Do I abide by them---only if they make sense which means you just shake your head and do what makes sense.
 
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djjack said:
I’m not sure about the Channellock substance that the warning was issued for but you would probably be safe just to clean off the tool and re-oil them. However, there is another substance that we should be aware of and it is the dirty little secret of the tool industry. I don’t know the chemical or trade name but the generic name is SMO. I have inside knowledge that most tool companies use at least some amount of the SMO substance. I believe Snap On uses a highly concentrated version of SMO. Unlike rust inhibitors the SMO molecule forms a very strong bond to the nickel atom in the tool. Simply cleaning off the tool won’t remove the SMO. You would need to grind off the nickel to remove most it. The SMO additive is absorbed through the skin and can be inhaled if large quantities are present. It does not cause cancer but does cause a form of brain damage. Also, once exposed, your body will absorb SMO easier in the future due to a decreased tolerance. Like lead or mercury, SMO accumulates in the brain and over time can cause enough damage to produce chronic behavioral deficits. An unpublished study showed that SMO poisoning occurs at least 50 times more often in men than women. Similarly women are a far more sensitive to a SGO. There is no treatment for SMO related exposure and experiments with detoxification have resulted in depression and irritability. If you are unsure if you have been exposed to SMO take this test. 1) Assume you receive a ******* magazine and a tool catalog in the mail. Do you hesitate for even a second on which one to open first? 2) Does purchasing a $75 tool to perform a $50 repair seem reasonable? 3) Do you think about your tool collection? 4) Does stepping into a tool truck make you feel happy? 5) Finally, open your sock drawer, now open your favorite tool drawer. Do you feel differently? If you answered yes to any of these questions, or if you took time to read this crazy post you’re poisoned with the SMO (shinny metal object) additive. Don’t feel too bad, you have a lot of good company since SMO is also found in guns, cars, motorcycles, and a remote control anything. I have some SMO exposure but I have not suffered brain damage. I could quit collecting tools if I wanted. I think I hear the tool truck… I gotta go.


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djjack said:
I’m not sure about the Channellock substance that the warning was issued for but you would probably be safe just to clean off the tool and re-oil them. However, there is another substance that we should be aware of and it is the dirty little secret of the tool industry. I don’t know the chemical or trade name but the generic name is SMO. I have inside knowledge that most tool companies use at least some amount of the SMO substance. I believe Snap On uses a highly concentrated version of SMO. Unlike rust inhibitors the SMO molecule forms a very strong bond to the nickel atom in the tool. Simply cleaning off the tool won’t remove the SMO. You would need to grind off the nickel to remove most it. The SMO additive is absorbed through the skin and can be inhaled if large quantities are present. It does not cause cancer but does cause a form of brain damage. Also, once exposed, your body will absorb SMO easier in the future due to a decreased tolerance. Like lead or mercury, SMO accumulates in the brain and over time can cause enough damage to produce chronic behavioral deficits. An unpublished study showed that SMO poisoning occurs at least 50 times more often in men than women. Similarly women are a far more sensitive to a SGO. There is no treatment for SMO related exposure and experiments with detoxification have resulted in depression and irritability. If you are unsure if you have been exposed to SMO take this test. 1) Assume you receive a ******* magazine and a tool catalog in the mail. Do you hesitate for even a second on which one to open first? 2) Does purchasing a $75 tool to perform a $50 repair seem reasonable? 3) Do you think about your tool collection? 4) Does stepping into a tool truck make you feel happy? 5) Finally, open your sock drawer, now open your favorite tool drawer. Do you feel differently? If you answered yes to any of these questions, or if you took time to read this crazy post you’re poisoned with the SMO (shinny metal object) additive. Don’t feel too bad, you have a lot of good company since SMO is also found in guns, cars, motorcycles, and a remote control anything. I have some SMO exposure but I have not suffered brain damage. I could quit collecting tools if I wanted. I think I hear the tool truck… I gotta go.


Yeah, You def. had me on that lol

Jim
 

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Its all like the idiot button in every car

For anyone who doesnt know what the idiot button is...it is the check engine light
 

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It is in the material on the handle.

Somehow, someone linked one of the chemicals to someone with cancer (probably a 2 pack a day smoker who had lung cancer) and used the tool one time, thus prompting the warning.
 

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If I had the money, I would fund a study to prove bottled water, organic vegetables and fruit cause cancer. Wouldn't take long after that than 80% of CA would die off from starvation. Unfortunately the remaining 20% living would be from CA bright spots like Compton or Watts. Eventually though diabeties, and other effects from grape Kool Aid would get them too if the drive by's don't. Lol
 

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If I had the money, I would fund a study to prove bottled water, organic vegetables and fruit cause cancer. Wouldn't take long after that than 80% of CA would die off from starvation. Unfortunately the remaining 20% living would be from CA bright spots like Compton or Watts. Eventually though diabeties, and other effects from grape Kool Aid would get them too if the drive by's don't. Lol

It's technically the bottles that cause the cancer due to the BPA used in the manufacture of the plastics. With fruit it depends on the type. Apples contain arsenic so they obviously can cause cancer too.

As for the Channellocks, the cancer warning is probably related to the handle material. I'm not sure, but if it's some sort of PVC or related material it would definitely be on the California cancer list. Otherwise it could be related to the clear finish Channellock coats the pliers in, or to the lubricant used.
 

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I'm pretty sure burning enough handles and huffing the fumes could give you cancer. Or grinding it up into a powder and snorting it. Or licking the rust inhibitor off of a few hundred pairs.

I have no doubt that there are indeed carcinogenic compounds in the plastic blister pack packaging, too.

I don't really see why this is silly. They have to put that label on everything that is a potential cancer hazard because it would be unfair to put it on some things and not others. It's a slippery slope trying to determine just how ****** something has to be for your health to put a label on it, so yeah...I'm cool with putting the cancer warning on everything that could cause cancer.

If you don't make Channellock put that on there, companies that make things that are more dangerous are going to have their million dollar lawyers sue to get their warnings removed and the first thing they'll do is say "These pliers here cause cancer, too, but we're not making them use a warning label!"
 
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